The Safest Zones In The US. Do You Live Near One?

James Walton
By James Walton November 20, 2020 09:43

The Safest Zones In The US. Do You Live Near One?

You might be looking at your nation a little differently lately.

There have always been dangerous neighborhoods and boroughs. Places like Compton, Kensington, and Camden might come to mind when you think of places that have a reputation for crime. Some of these areas have actually improved from when I was child. However, there are lots of places all around this nation that have been dangerous and many that are getting worse.

The move towards lawlessness in many of our biggest cities has been brought on by the current attitude towards police and police funding. As states bandy about the issues and people worry about things like natural disasters and economic decline, many have moved or considered moving.

What are the safest zones in the US?

Safest Cities

There are safe havens all around this nation. There are places that have historically had low crime and great community cohesion. The key in most of these cities and towns is ownership and loyalty. Most often transient places are dangerous, and people are more likely to commit crimes in these places.

Let’s look at some of the safest cities and towns in America:

  • Round Rock, Texas

The Safest Zones in the USWith a population just over 100,000 this smaller town in Texas is a very appealing place for preppers to live. It is also a very safe place with a median income of $70,000.

The low poverty rate in Round Rock has much to do with the safety and security of this Texas town.

Round Rock has been dubbed a “super suburb” as a place just outside of Austin

  • Naperville, Illinois

The Safest Zones in the USThis Chicago suburb is a gem in an area that most people would not expect. The River Walk is an important part of Naperville, but it is hardly the only thing that this suburb offers. A population 144,000 people are a successful and well paid lot. The median household income is over $100,000.

The minimal crime rate, per 100,000 people, has much to do with the low poverty rate which is just over 4%. 77.6 violent crimes per 100,000 people is something to be proud of.

The safety of Naperville could also have to do with the tremendous outdoor opportunities. With over 130 parks and 2 public golf courses, there is nearly a park for every person!

  • Port St. Lucie, Florida

The Safest Zones in the US If you are going to pick a new safe place to live, why not consider a place where the weather is wonderful! Along the southern coast of Florida Port St. Lucie is a beautiful tropical zone with $169,000 a year median income.

You will have to be prepared for hurricanes. An evacuation plan is needed as the southern coast of Florida is at risk during hurricane season, but we are preppers!

You will not have as much to worry about when it comes to violent crime as there are just 115 violent crimes per 100,000 people. You will love near breweries, botanical gardens, preserves and marinas. Great fishing on the coast, too!

Best Regions to Survive Disasters

Along with safe cities and towns America also features some great regions to setup a life that are far away from some of the biggest threats. Remember, people are only one threat. Mother nature can have a devastating affect on the North American continent and has done so in the past. From massive super volcanoes to devastating earthquakes

What are the safest regions to survive massive cataclysmic disasters?

  • The Cascades

The Safest Zones in the US Deep enough inland and high enough up to counter things like flooding and tropical cyclones that affect the West Coast. The cascades are loaded with resources for survival like water, food, and wood. They are a beautiful backdrop to deal with the post-apocalyptic world and far enough away from southern California to inherit any of that mess.

The northernmost portions of the Cascades are even located in the American Redoubt, which we will discuss later in this article.

  • The Blue Ridge Mountains

The Safest Zones in the US Another range of mountains that offer similar benefits as the Cascades. This east coast mountain range covers several states, has plenty of food, water, shelter, and game animals. Covering the land by food would not be easy but the seclusion from the chaos would be well worth it.

Because of elevation and distance from the coast there are almost no threats of flood, tsunami, or hurricane in this region. There is little seismic activity in the area.

West of some particularly important and sizeable cities, the Blue Ridge mountains could become a safe haven for millions of people in the very worst case scenario. That is the only weakness of this location.

  • Appalachia

The Safest Zones in the US Further west still, on the other side of the blue ridge mountains in the region of Appalachia which runs from New York to Mississippi. This is another great region to consider because of its sparse population compared to the coasts. Its quick access to the Blue Ridge Mountains and safety from most major disasters.

Prepper Strongholds

Are you looking for even more benefits? Maybe you want the people and the safe places. There is nothing wrong with that. Around the nation there are several places that have not only been deemed safe and pleasant but are also filled with preppers!

Yup! The self-reliant and independent have taken up refuge in a few spots across the nation. They are often looking for more friends like them to build their prepper community. These areas are not just filled with preppers but are in rural areas where other people are as self sufficient as the prepper community.

  • Redoubt

The Safest Zones in the US In 2011 James Wesley Rawles proposed Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming as the American Redoubt. The Redoubt also encompasses the eastern parts of Washington and Oregon. It is unclear how many people have moved to the American Redoubt with the intent of stockpiling, prepping, or homesteading for the long haul.

However, there is a small community of voices from Rawles, to John Jacob Schmitt, to the American Christian Network, that will align with much of what you believe. It has been estimated that thousands of people have moved to these areas as a safe haven from the growing turmoil of our world.

Because of its low population density and impressive access to resources, as well as low threat profile, as long as you can stay warm in the winter, the Redoubt has some tremendous benefits. You will also have plenty of wide open space so if you don’t align with everything Rawles proposed you can do your own thing and be just fine!

  • Ozarks

The Safest Zones in the US The Ozarks are more of a plateau than a mountain range with some of its tallest peaks between 1-2000 feet tall. Because of its location in the nation and its elevation, it has a tremendous amount of benefits to the average prepper looking for a safe zone.

The Ozarks are not affected by things like floods because of the elevation, it has this elevation without snow because it is in the south. It does not face any kind of earthquake threat, hurricane, or forest fire. There is a long growing season that features lots of rain.

Pastor Joe Fox of Viking Preparedness has been expanding his Shofar mountain and influencing preppers for many years to make their way to the Ozarks. COOHMP or Come Out of Her, My People as taken from the book of Revelation. A growing prepper stronghold has taken root in the Ozarks making it a wonderful place to move and a very safe region.

Also, those who are not preppers in the Ozarks are looking to do their own things and basically be left alone. So, it is a sentiment we can all understand!

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We live in a MASSIVE nation full of all kinds of opportunity. There are areas that are incredibly dangerous, but the reality is we have a lot of wide open spaces that can be whatever you want them to be!

Did you know there are even some places that will give you free land or pay you to live there! If you aren’t tethered to a location than you can take advantage of the areas, we mentioned. However, you should arrive there and become a part of the community. This is particularly important. You can never know the full potential of any area unless you integrate and become a member of the community.

Go forth and choose your destiny!

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  1. left coast chuck November 20, 17:46

    While I agree that Eastern Washington, Eastern Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming are mostly red, there are strongholds of blue in those areas. Boise and Cour de laine went for Billary in 2016 as did Spokane, Washington and the adjacent city to Spokane which I can’t remember right now. I actually was shocked to see that Cour de laine went for Billary. That used to be where all the LAPD cops retired to. They must have really undergone a life transformation.

    It really pays to do in-depth investigation of your prospective area before you leap. I was really interested in Flagstaff, AZ as an area to relocate to. It has water and while it is hot in the summer, and cold in the winter, generally the weather the times I visited it were mild. As prep for making the move I subscribed to the Flagstaff newspaper.

    That really opened my eyes. The student body and faculty of the U. of Az. outnumber the real residents of Flagstaff and they vote left almost 100%. Flagstaff passed the $15 minimum wage before the rest of the state. That may seem like a small thing if you are a quarter of a million dollar a year professor at UofA but it caused several charity organizations to close their doors in Flagstaff. Reading the newspaper revealed to me that Flagstaff was more leftist that the town I live in which is in the much disdained Peepuls Dimokratik Republik of Kallyforniya.

    Sure enough, Flagstaff went for Billary in 2016 and I am confident they liked Ole’ Two-Shot Joe in 2020 too.

    Why would I want to exchange a paid for house with property tax protection in a semi-leftist town with fantastic weather for a an unknown house in a more leftist town with worse weather? It turns out Flagstaff also has the most snowfall of cities its size in the U.S. While I like snow, I prefer to go to my snow rather than have it delivered to my front doorstep.

    I grew up in southeastern PA during the war years where snow came quite regularly to one’s front doorstep during the winter months.I often have gone out on a frosty morning to find that the car battery had gone south for the winter. Fortunately we lived on a slight hill, so I gained considerable experience in rolling starts in the early morning made more difficult with three or more inches of fresh snow on the roadway.

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    • dj November 20, 20:50

      I guess knowing the political lean of a place is important before you commit to setting up house.

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    • kelly November 20, 21:36

      Southwestern Pa, West virginia….. come home, we haven’t been overrun yet.

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    • Nemo November 20, 23:01

      We left Wyoming 8 years ago for northeast Missouri. Crook County (Sundance is the county seat) Wyoming was always kind of laid back, everyone who lived out in the county did pretty much what they wanted to.

      Then one day, it seemed, we began to find there were new rules for our rural living, notably, no more outhouses unless they were approved by the county. What they required for an outhouse was the same as what the Forest Service wanted in theirs. Concrete lined vault, adequate ventilation per THEIR requirements, screens and other things to prevent flies, annual pump outs by approved contractors, etc., etc., ad nauseum. Many of us westerners always feared the day when out of staters would move in and make more laws to protect us all from ourselves. I could say more, but, enough said for now…………………….Nemo

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      • City Chick November 22, 19:02

        Nemo – Those out of staters you fear will impinge on your life style will be oh so much more diverse and colorful should biden prevail and win this election. 900,000 Middle eastern refugees he plans on importing to the good old US of A will have to be placed somewhere else now that the cities are all full up. Small town downtowns will look like the bar scene from the first Star Wars.

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    • IvyMike November 21, 01:47

      Parking on a hill so you can get a good roll and pop the clutch, who knows how to do that anymore? They’re gonna miss us when we’re gone.

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    • mbl November 21, 02:15

      It’s been a long time since i had to push a car to get it started like that. One time, they actually let me sit in the driver’s seat, since i was the lightest of all of us.

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    • red November 21, 05:33

      LCC: Yeah, Flagstaff loves her snow. They average 97 inches a year. With that, better keep the snow mobile in the attic. Cousins in Maine do that. Flagstaff, homes are 53% higher than the rest of Arizona.
      I miss those trucks with a clutch. Before I was in kindergarten I was driving the tractor and in our area, very rural, it wasn’t uncommon to see little kids driving a truck up the road or down to a store on the crossroads. There were plenty of times I had to pick up cigarettes for the folks or a 6 of beer, no questions asked.
      niio

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      • left coast chuck November 21, 19:00

        Yes, even though you were supposed to be 16 to buy cigs in PA, everybody sent their kids to the store to pick up a pack. The druggist never asked a question either. It was more likely the teenagers were sneaking smokes than the eight year old.

        I learned to drive on an old one ton Studebaker with a dual gear box. You had to be really good with the clutch and the gas pedal to start up in low/low without jerking like crazy and stalling the truck. Interesting, predictive doesn’t even recognize Studebaker as a word any more. It’s redlined, indicating possible non word. How fleeting glory.

        There used to be an exemption for farm kids to operate trucks and farm equipment on rural roads. Couldn’t drive on expressways or busy (by yesterday’s standards now would be considered light traffic) city streets. Don’t know if it still exists as anywhere in SoCal certainly can’t be considered rural and besides don’t even have grandkids under 18 any more.

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    • Mick November 21, 09:27

      I might be wrong but I believe you mean Northern Arizona University (NAU) in Flagstaff and not UofA which is in Tucson.

      Otherwise, I agree with you. I thought to retire in Prescott Valley but after the 2020 election, I won’t be going to Arizona.

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    • L.A. in AZ. November 25, 03:16

      I am an Arizona resident. If you’re looking to prep, check out areas up around the Eager or Alpine. Places like that are heavily forested, tons of hunting, fishing,.. To really get lost, check out the Escudilla Mountain Range..

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  2. Farmer November 20, 17:57

    This article is interesting but could do with a bit more editing attention.

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    • Miss Kitty November 20, 21:51

      Nice article, but going forward I would like to see a bit more in depth profiles of prepper friendly locations.

      Also, climate, be it political or weather wise, is good to know about, but what about access to medical facilities, employment, cost of living, etc? These are all important things to consider if you want to relocate. Maybe a future series of articles can examine these more closely. Interviews with residents of these areas would be a nice adjunct.

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      • Prepper In Training November 21, 05:37

        Miss Kitty, yes, it would be nice if the author would do a much more in-depth study of places mentioned, but how much information should be included? What is the best elementary/middle school/high school? How may students per teacher? Best restaurant? Local traffic studies so you will know what to expect in case you have to bug out?

        I applaud any writer that contributes valid content to this site, no matter how lacking in information it may be. I can look at this list and know pretty readily whether I (emphasis I) need to do some research on an area I may be interested in. I should spend MY money and time researching what I want to know in regards to a particular area.

        “Google is your friend” is a common saying in the tech world. It may lead you to city/county/state websites that will give you a wealth of information. Go to the Chamber of Commerce site. Take a trip to an area that piques your interest and see first hand whether it has some of the qualities you desire.

        While valid, your question/request would cost the author a small fortune in time and money, and I am afraid he would still fall short of your or someone else’s expectations.

        I don’t mean to sound critical, but our world has become too full of people wanting others to do all the work. I hope others can follow this post with some answers to your question. I personally question some of the locations that have made this list, which just proves to me that we all have our own interpretation of “safest zones”

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        • Vee Dubya November 21, 18:33

          Good points, though this site could collectively provide the answers that would cost the author too much on their own; there are people here that live in the “possible “ zones that could contribute a little more each time, just as we’re doing now.
          Heck I’ve learned to stay away from certain areas of Texas, learned more about the Ozarks and the climate there, good stuff, only got a warning about Idaho, which I’m not sure if that’s southern Idaho or includes up into the panhandle.
          I’m here in the southern cascades area and I don’t mind answering questions or contributing, we are after all, stronger when we network.

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        • Miss Kitty November 22, 13:59

          While your arguments are all true and have merit, the article is still in need, in my opinion, of fleshing out. “The redoubt”, “the Cascades”…. listing various locations with natural resources and few people as criteria is all well and good, but there is a need to provide a bit more information if you are writing an article about why people should consider relocation to another state.
          I have a right, as a reader, to voice my opinion about what I would like to see in an article. Moving is a huge hassle for most anybody; I agree with you that you need to do your own research. This isn’t an issue of “Best Places”… it’s a prepper site. Nevertheless, my feeling is still that the article would benefit from being expanded a bit to include a bit more detail.

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          • red November 22, 21:05

            Miz Kitty: You’re on the money. But, one thing, that’s why you’re here, to help flesh out this article. How many times have we read post to you, that’s right! why didn’t I think of that! and so on. keep up the good work! niio

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      • red November 21, 19:06

        Miz Kitty: How are you today? Yes, exactly! PiT is on the money, and I wrote about living in the border states. 4 years ago there were warnings up about travelling within 100 miles of the border. Things might have calmed a lot, but people in that 100 mile zone know it can change and change fast.
        There’s a cool site up on fb, _I believe in MAGA_.
        Yo, I got booted of youtube, again. Yes, I can access it but not post ’cause I tell the truth. Liberals are Nazis. Then prove it LOL! Hope today is a good one for you! niio

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        • City Chick November 21, 20:17

          Red – Getting booted off one of these leftist socialist controlled sites for telling it like it is is a badge of honor for the First Amendment! Complain loudly to the powers that be!

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          • red November 22, 01:44

            CC: Yep, and this isn’t the first place or the first time with yt. I complained and told them I didn’t expect reality from them, too many nazis there. And that you tube is a convenience, like a urinal. If none are there, any tree will do. niio

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        • Miss Kitty November 22, 14:09

          I don’t “do” social media. Too much being monitored, too little balance, too much being flagged by some teenaged self-proclaimed “activists” who take it upon themselves to complain about your content and get you deplatformed. We’re dealing with enough of a police state without giving them additional information.

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          • red November 23, 01:31

            Miz kitty: We do what we can while we can. The next time he votes, he’s going to wonder if I was right. Many do, but they had the wool pulled over their eyes for so long, they march lockstep to the final solution. To debate is the only way to open eyes. niio

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  3. Gina November 20, 18:11

    The Cascades are in Western Oregon and Washington. The Redoubt extends into eastern Oregon and Washington. Is the author mixing up the Cascades with the Wallowas? I live in the Cascades foothills. Portland and Seattle both are just west of the Cascades. Neither wins any prizes for safety currently.

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  4. dj November 20, 18:20

    Just curious, when this information compiled? I’m researching for a new location.

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  5. JustD November 20, 19:54

    I lived in Naperville, IL for 25 years (grew up on the tough west side of Chicago). Yes, it’s a lovely and thriving town. However, it is adjacent to two suburbs with high crime! Namely, Aurora and Bolingbrook. Both are big and full of poverty stricken people. The Naperville police do a good job at keeping crime at bay. In a grid down scenario, the lawless know exactly where to head!

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  6. SkyPilot November 20, 20:17

    Appreciate the information, Mr. Walton. Would appreciate it more if you included some info on how to find the way to get land for free or get paid to live there. Do you have the links to find that info? Thanks for the article!!

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  7. De. November 20, 20:23

    It needs to be more indepth so a real picture can be formed, but as they say live their a little before moving.

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  8. mbl November 20, 20:31

    I wish the map at the beginning of the story were a bit more indicative of the contents. Or at the very least describe the meaning of the red circles.

    I think there are many places in the country where folks are self-sufficient. They don’t really talk about but just get on with things.

    One thing i would suggest for people wanting to change locations for seemingly greener pastures is to read that new place’s ordinances before you plunk down money for real estate. You may find your dream design isn’t allowed or that a lack of zoning can mean you could be side-by-side to a business or operation in which you want no part (but get the dust, noise, etc from them).

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    • Misi November 21, 04:40

      Yes, why is there a red circle around the Texas Panhandle??

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    • Spike November 21, 19:20

      Obviously, Those big dots were randomly placed on the map. I know my area and they had nothing in common.

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    • City Chick November 22, 15:41

      Mbl – They say that the three most important words in real estate are location, location, location. That being said, the best locations are chosen and populated first. After that, zoning changes and real estate tax increases are what turns the country side into the suburbs and the suburbs into a city.

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  9. KDC November 20, 21:22

    I sure wouldn’t move to the Cascades. That’s a volcano hot spot. “ Because the population of the Pacific Northwest is rapidly expanding, the volcanoes of the Cascade Range in Washington, Oregon, and northern California are some of the most dangerous in the United States.”

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  10. KDC November 20, 21:24

    “Because the population of the Pacific Northwest is rapidly expanding, the volcanoes of the Cascade Range in Washington, Oregon, and northern California are some of the most dangerous in the United States”.I wouldn’t move to the Cascades.

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  11. Mama Grizzly November 20, 21:45

    You made the right choice…flagstaff is wicked cold in the winter. My late husband grew up in Chicago, and he lived in flag briefly and said he couldn’t handle the cold.

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  12. IvyMike November 21, 01:45

    I mowed hayfields in the Round Rock,TX, area when I was 18. Little bitty redneck Texas town back then, it is all gone now, from San Marcos to Austin to Georgetown it is endless middle and upper middle class suburbs and strip malls, mediocre restaurants, office complexes, giant Corporate headquarters like Dell right in the middle of it all in Round Rock. There are no poor people for miles, and the traffic is so bad they can’t drive to Round Rock to steal your crap anyway. This is the Blue heart of Texas and I can’t imagine a Prepper wanting to be within 200 miles of the place. Ozarks, though, great place, I’ve been camping in the Ozark and Ouchita Mts for close to 30 years. Getting some development and higher prices there lately. Knew several Hippies who moved up there in the 70’s to grow Marijuana, back then you could buy off grid arable land with a year round creek for 100 bucks an acre. It doesn’t snow much there but it is a long cold winter, and a long hot summer, and outside of the bottoms the hickory-oak-pine forest doesn’t support much game, good mast in the fall but poor browse the rest of the year outside of burned areas, yup, they have fires there.

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  13. Chuckster59 November 21, 02:10

    Stay OUT of Idaho. It’s very dangerous here and you need to constantly keep an eye over your shoulder.

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    • Vee Dubya November 21, 18:38

      Why’s that Chuckster?
      Is that all of Idaho? Or just over around the Boise twin falls areas?
      Or are you just fed up with the kalipornians flooding in?

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      • left coast chuck November 21, 19:04

        Sounds like a plan to keep Kallifornicators out of Idaho. Don’t blame Chuckster. They seem to screw up every state they infest.

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      • Chuckster59 November 22, 00:16

        Yeah. I was just being a butthead. Not just Commiefornians…lots of Oregonians and Washingtonians. COVID has launched the ‘I can work from anywhere…getting the hell outta here’ movement. Problem for low-wage Idaho is people moving here in DROVES overnight with CASH keeping native Idahoans priced outta the already-tight housing market. Idahoans really getting angry and vocal and mean towards the influx. I have seen California license plated cars cut off, flipped off, honked at with 15 second loud horns and such. Not nice to do but I can understand the frustration.

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        • left coast chuck November 22, 22:29

          That’s funny. At one time Oregonidiots had bumper stickers saying, “Welcome to Oregon. Now go back home/”

          That was when they were being flooded with what I called equity fugitives. Folks who had sold their homes in the PDRK for outrageously more than they paid for it and fled to Oregon where housing was incredibly cheap compared to what housing was going for in the PDRK. This had the effect of driving housing prices beyond what Oregonidiots could afford and they were mightily put out hence that bumper sticker which was among the mildest.

          Now they are doing the same thing to Idaho, Montana and Wyoming.

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          • red November 23, 09:37

            LCC: and to Arizona. My bumper has Trump and Pence on it and I get a lot of good from other drivers. It also has Don’t California my Arizona and I love my gun dealer 🙂 Most Kali-weird move to or near a city. The rest, the conservatives, come to place like my town. niio

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  14. City Chick November 21, 03:13

    Would be helpful if the author would give a bit more info on each location that is offered here for serious consideration. A summarized checklist of things to order in importance and a to do list would be helpful to do one’s own due diligence. For at least the last 15 years we have thought it might be time to move, and have wondered where best to move to. After much ado, we always realized that for better or worse, this is still a pretty good place to be. So many folks who have moved away, always try to come back but find they do not have the purchasing power to settle back in. Lesson learned – Better to try it out first rather than be all in!

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    • left coast chuck November 21, 19:29

      In my printing business I maintained membership lists for organizations that had too many members to keep the list manually but didn’t have anyone who wanted to buy a membership program for their computer. I also mailed out the membership bulletins and handled other associated quasi-printing work.

      One of my clients was the county retired employees association. It was interesting. While membership was not mandatory, the association handled the paperwork to get your retirement started and also handled any problems that you might have with your retirement, so membership was almost 100%. Dues which could be deducted from your retirement were very nominal, less than $5.00 a month.

      We would pick up a new member after retirement. Within a year, many of the retirees would move to another area or another state. For the out-of-staters, in some period of time they would be back in CA, only now instead of living in a single family home in suburban CA they were living in an apartment in an urban area in SoCal.

      I never knew whether apartment living was desired for reduced maintenance or because they now couldn’t afford to buy a single family home in this overpriced burg. And also don’t know the reason they moved back, but I suspect that they just didn’t fit in and hadn’t really done an in-depth investigation before moving to a new and completely different area.

      It was that experience the convinced me that an in-depth study of an area was necessary before making a move.

      As I have indicated earlier in this topic, subscribing to the local newspaper is the first step, even if it is a weekly or sporadic. If they don’t have mail subscriptions, see if you can arrange a special arrangement with the subscription department. Six months should be sufficient time to form an opinion on a town I think. Shorter, you don’t get a feel for the flow of the town.

      That should be followed by a fairly lengthy stay in the town, exploring all the neighborhoods and looking at all the real estate for sale, even if it is just a drive-by look at the property. With Google now you can get a pretty good look at the property from the outside and often times if it is a listed property, a look at the inside too. See if the local realty board has a website with recent sales and follow that. That will give you a good idea of what houses are going for. I would do the sales review first before driving around, that way you can eyeball the recent sale and get an idea why it went for so much more than its neighbor.

      Due to the fire, some people who were burned out didn’t want to deal with the city and all its nit-picky regulations on rebuilding so they sold the bare lot. When that first started happening, I saw sales that were far below what houses in that neighborhood usually went for. Google revealed that those were bare lot sales. To give you an idea how overpriced things are in this town, bare lots are going for $300,000+. It’s not a deal because you are limited to the footprint of the original house and are limited as to how many stories you can add on. In addition, you have to meet all the current building standards for the city, some of which are imposed by our masters in Schizomento.

      So if you saw a lot for sale in this town, it is important as someone else said to know what are the ordinances and codes for housing. How rigorously are they enforced? Someone buying in this burg, thinking they were getting a deal would be rudely awakened once they started dealing with the building nazis. The new buyer with dreams of a McMansion high in the hills above the town would find out he was limited to an 1800 square foot, single story rather modest home as all of that particular tract was built 50+ years ago before the age of McMansions.

      Before you leap into the fire, investigate, investigate, investigate.

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      • City Chick November 21, 20:57

        LCC- Excellent advice! I would also recommend trying it out for size for a few months if you can. Visit. Vacation there. Maybe take a short term rental or a Airbnb. See how well it feels.

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  15. Misi November 21, 04:45

    RURAL. Watch the signs in the neighborhood, wave to your community while you drive by, belong to a strong church, help others. When the needs arise people who have already bonded together will circle the wagons and have each other’s six. Not every place is going to be and not every place is going to be bad. Self-sufficiency, common sense & cooperation are the keys to survival. That’s why are government is falling apart.

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  16. red November 21, 04:57

    Do NOT agree about the border zones. Border jumpers on both sides make raids. Thanks to the PRI, Mexico is teetering on the verge of collapse. The Wall is great for stopping slavers and drug runners, but it’s not going to stop tanks or people eager to reenact the Alamo all across the border states. Kids in Mexico are taught that the US stole our Southwest from Mexico. In the Clinton era, where did most drug lords and their private armies live? Just across the border. In case anyone is wondering, most people just over the border want the Wall if only to stop slave raids on their children.
    niio

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    • left coast chuck November 21, 19:39

      Red: While the U.S. “purchased” the territory acquired from Mexico, that would not hold up in court as a fair market sale which is a willing seller, not having to sell and a willing buyer not having to buy and the agreed upon price is considered a fair market sale. A sale at the muzzle of a gun falls a little short of that definition.

      While I don’t agree with much of what Mexico has done or presently does with regard to its government and people, in the case you cited, I think they have a point.

      The only difference is for the folks of latino descent in those states who long to be back in the loving arms of Mexico, think about it a minute. Sure it looks great right now but how long would it remain so once back in the stinking hole that Mexico is today?

      I recently read an article that some towns in Old Mexico want to arm themselves so that they can defend against the narcos but the government is afraid to let them arm themselves. They haven’t defended the towns so far and are making no serious move to do so presently but keep insisting that only the government should provide protections against the narcos. Yeah, sure. Next the goobermint will be asking them to invest in the bridge between Cabo San Lucas and the mainland.

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      • red November 22, 01:29

        LCC: Oh, I think they were willing enough that we didn’t take the northern states, as well. And those states would have been happy enough to be free of that euro pimple Santa Ana. Mexico had nothing but trouble in the lands we took. They stole it to begin with, and that wouldn’t hold up well in court, either. All and I do mean ALL American Indians from what is today Northern Mexico to Nevada and Colorado sided with us to get Mexico out of their turf. Gold them was selling for 22 bucks an ounce, and the peso was valued at $1.86 USD. The only major product being produced then was scalps. 100 pesos for a man’s, 50 for a woman and 10 for an infant, and thousands of scalps found their way into the presidios. Two Germans showed up in the Precidio de Hermasillo with 2,000 scalps at one time. Most were probably Mexican, but Mexico City demanded the commander pay them. Look up Lozan sometime and see why she is said to have kiled upwards of 350 men.

        No Mexican American wants to see us back in Mexico. Perhaps in Kali, where kids are brainwashed into thinking boy means girl and vice (no pun intended, maybe 🙂 a versa. Trump carried states with a high percentage of the manos. That’s why Arizona is doing a recount, the manos demanded it. Most of us have family in Mexico. We know what’s going on.

        The people are arming. That’s why they joke about getting Holder back in. holder sold how many thousands of M16s to narcos, and people are helping themselves after the narcos had back accidents. More than one town in the north has barricades up or enough stuff ready to make one. When the army shows up, little old ladies are right there threatening them. No man with machismo is going to hurt someone’s granny. Last time that happened was in the early 80s. They didn’t find enough of the cop to feed a sparrow, and the rest of the precinct barricaded themselves into the station to keep from joining him. And that was only old women armed with canes, hairbrushes, and machetes. Every war begins with an angry woman and in Mexico, the women are very angry. Go south. The Maya are still shooting troops in their turf and now in the cities, as well. That war started when the Aztec were barely more than schoolboys. So far, the Maya have kept their lands.

        Cabo? Best of luck because it was started, then dropped. Baja is moving enough that in the trench there’s active lava lows. niio

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  17. red November 21, 19:07

    If anyone does face book, there’s a site called _I Believe In MAGA_ you might like.

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  18. Chuckster59 November 23, 16:43

    Has anyone figured out how to opt out of some conversations on askaprepper.com? I get a ‘404’ error when using the unsubscribe link in the email. Reported this to Claude several months ago but still seems to be an issue.

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  19. cromulent bill November 23, 21:27

    yeah . . . don’t come to the blue ridge mountains. i live here and it’s just terrible. we have deer on crack and meth addicted skunks, banjo players behind every tree, a grandma moonshine epidemic and horrible weathermen. it’s a scientific fact that the likelyhood of tooth decay increases when outsiders move to this region, and if you hate irritable bowels, or chronic constipation, then this surely isn’t the place for you. yeah, the blueridge mountain region is tough going. i wouldn’t recommend moving here, unless you’re a pure sadist. stay away. bad mountains. bad.

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    • red November 24, 14:17

      Bill: You forgot to add Gramma is armed and deadly 🙂 niio

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      • cromulent bill November 25, 00:24

        lol i was making a joke. i always tell people, come visit my town, but don’t stay. i’m waiting for the census numbers to see if we broke 600 people yet. but, yeah, round heah memaw will blow your fool head off with a classic double barrel and then go to church on sunday.

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    • Miss Kitty November 25, 04:29

      When I read your reply, I got this mental image of a stoned deer laying on his back listening to a skunk with blacked out teeth and a pipe hanging from his mouth, singing and playing the banjo. Both wearing patched jean overalls and straw hats and a raccoon dressed in a bonnet and patched long dress coming up to them with a stoneware jug marked “XXX” in her paws. Too funny!

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  21. vee Dubya November 25, 06:47

    interesting, you peek my interest, I will look closer at the blue ridge mountains, it’s possible that them skunks could have a sense of humor getting up next to gramma’s shine.. thanks!!

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