The Best States to Outlive an Economic Depression

Rich M.
By Rich M. March 20, 2020 10:59

The Best States to Outlive an Economic Depression

The world is facing the biggest catastrophe it has faced since World War II. As the Coronavirus spreads around the globe, governments and medical personnel are scrambling to figure out what to do. This unprecedented disaster is creating a lot of unrest on Wall Street, causing some serious losses in the stock market.

On top of that, we’re seeing the first real global petroleum war as Russia and Saudi Arabia battle it out over crude oil prices. This is having a major impact on American oil companies, with wellhead prices on crude oil now lower than what it costs for those companies to produce their product. If this continues for any great length of time, we’re going to see a large number of oil companies shutter their doors; starting with the small ones and perhaps including some of the biggest players in the field.

All this unrest and the country’s reaction to the virus appears to have brought to an end the growth we’ve seen in our economy over the last three years. Some economic gurus are claiming that we will see unemployment as high as 20% in the next few months. Others are speculating about a worldwide recession or depression because of COVID-19.

It’s strange, but whichever president is in office usually gets the credit if our economy is strong, as well as the blame if it is struggling, even though he really doesn’t have control over it. There are many factors which work together to create a strong economy. If any of them are missing, it could have a downward effect.

So, while the president gets the credit or the blame, much of it should be laid at the feet of the nation’s bankers and brokers, especially those on Wall Street. They are the ones who keep the economy ticking, all the president can do is create an atmosphere that’s conducive to it ticking well. But if the big bankers see a benefit to themselves or their companies in letting the economy tank, they’ve got the power to make it happen.

That’s the scary part. While it mostly falls into the realm of conspiracy theory, there is evidence to show that previous economic downturns and even wars have been started for no other purpose than to give these ultra-wealthy movers and shakers an opportunity to make money. Of course, the same evidence can show that they were merely being opportunistic, taking advantage of the opportunity presented to them. It’s all a matter of the way you look at the evidence.

Regardless of which is true, I’ve seen a steady stream of reports about how the economy is going to take a turn for the worst, ever since we caught our breath after the Great Recession in 2008/2009. Whether those reports are nothing more than fear mongering or based in reality is something to be seen. But the sheer quantity of those reports leaves me feeling a bit uncomfortable.

Even if none of those reports are true, there are still things that could cause the world’s economy, not just the US economy, to suffer a major hiccup. Chief amongst them at this time is the coronavirus, which is already affecting the shipment of products out of China. Since just about every product manufactured in the world uses parts from China, in addition to all the products manufactured there, this is bound to create shortages and affect the world’s economy. The only question is, how much?

With that in mind, it might be a good idea to have some idea of where to go, should our economy take a major hit and we end up in another recession.

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Texas

If there was a contest over which state fared the best in the Great Recession, Texas would be the clear winner. The Lone Star state was the least affected by the recession and recovered from it the fastest. Some parts of the state, like McAllen, one of the fastest growing areas in the country, still had respectable new home construction figures, while the rest of the nation’s construction workers sat at home, waiting for things to get better.

Those in the know (mostly businessmen and politicians) like to brag that Texas has the 15th largest economy in the world. That’s compared to nations, not just other states. The state’s diversified economy is more insulated from economic fluctuation that hits only one sector. Besides that, there is plenty of land available for living off grid, with less regulation than many other states.

The Dakotas

One wouldn’t expect it, but the Dakotas, especially North Dakota are amongst the nation’s best financial performers in many categories. That extends out to include the rest of the Northern Midwestern states as well. Between agriculture and a renewed oil boom, cue to fracking, these states have low unemployment and solid state government finances, mostly operating with fiscal surpluses.

Nebraska, a close neighbor, has the most diverse economy in the country, with its’ top industries accounting for only 4.97% of the state’s GDP. That keeps Nebraska from suffering economic fluctuations in specific industries, just like Texas.

This part of the country is attractive as a bug out location due to low population densities and large amount of agriculture. If you need someplace to go when everything goes south, it’s hard to beat the Midwest.

Arkansas

I wonder if Arkansas’ reputation as s hick state is a bit of propaganda on the part of their government.  People tend to overlook just how attractive a location Arkansas is to live in, either due to that reputation or because there is no one thing that makes the state stand out.

Nevertheless, Arkansas has a very stable economy, with the average household income in the state’s capital being dramatically higher than it is in other states. Yet the cost of living, which is largely driven by housing costs is low and the relative value of the dollar (its buying power) is one of the highest in the nation. All this together means that it will be one of the cheaper states to be in, when and if the economy takes a turn for the worst.

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The Nation’s Breadbasket

When we talk about the Nation’s Breadbasket, we’re talking about a whole bunch of states, from Kansas to Ohio and from Missouri to Minnesota. These, and a few others, are the major farming states of our country, producing the majority of the grain we consume, as well as grain that is shipped to countries around the globe.

Perhaps it’s the natural conservatism of farmers, who really only make up a small percentage of these states, but the states that comprise the Breadbasket tend to be steady performers economically, coming in high in any study done of the several states economies. While they might not have the high tech flash of California or walk hard heeled down the walkway like Texas ranchers and oil men, the people of these states definitely do their part to keep the nation on an even keel.

West Virginia, Kentucky and Tennessee

Once again, I’m lumping states together geographically. That’s because these states share some regional attributes, which make them a good choice to live in; both economically and otherwise. But these states share something else which makes them of interest to us; that is they are excellent bug out locations, with lots of mountain land that can be used to build a survival retreat. In fact, there are developers in this part of the nation, who specialize in selling land just for that purpose.

All three of these states have very solid financial statistics, just like those in the Nation’s Breadbasket. They’re also looked at as the home of hillbillies and hicks; just like Arkansas. Maybe there’s something there. Those good old boys just seem to know how to keep things on an even keel.

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A Final Observation

As I look back over the states which I’ve chosen for this list, one glaring reality sticks out to me. Perhaps you didn’t see it; but I did. Before I tell you what it is, I want to say that this characteristic wasn’t taken into account as a part of my decision. Rather, it could be an explanation of why those states are in such good shape, financially speaking.

What I’m referring to is that just about every one of those states is a Republican controlled state, with conservative fiscal policy. There are a few exceptions in the Breadbasket; but other than that, they are all states with a long history of voting red and calling for financial accountability from our government. Considering some of the things that California and New York state governments spend money on and some of the laws they enact which restrict business, it’s no wonder that those states suffer the worst, whenever there’s a downturn in our economy.

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  1. Cindy March 20, 15:48

    Thanks for sharing the map and article.
    I don’t see Iowa in the article but it is on the map.
    I’m in Iowa but Arkansas would be my 2nd pick

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    • Loggerchick April 13, 08:27

      I wouldn’t touch ANY of those places because of the likelyhood of losing everything you have worked for to tornadoes. Most of the states mentioned are in tornado alley!! Maybe I would go to the Dakotas, but why would I, when I live in a really great state that prrovides me with everything one needs to survive?

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  2. TheSouthernNationalist March 20, 17:11

    What about North Carolina?
    We’ve got good soil and water, good weather and plenty of room with no “crazy”gun laws.
    Good place to take root to.

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    • red March 20, 20:15

      too many relatives down there 🙂 niio

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    • PlainJane March 22, 07:15

      It’s become a very liberal state. The mindset of the majority voters is why I wouldn’t move there. I would also site the proximity to high density population centers all along the east coast.

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  3. Idahodel March 20, 17:17

    The last paragraph sets it all.

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  4. TheAmericanWay March 20, 18:24

    The problem isn’t that there are hicks and rednecks in those states, the problem is that most hicks and rednecks are peace-hating, racist, sexist, homophobic bigots who think their twisted Nazi way of “good old boy” living is the only right way.

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    • Jake d March 21, 02:58

      Spoken like a true fan of the Democrat propaganda machine.

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    • common sense March 21, 03:36

      Soooo, by your comment, you have proven yourself to be a ignorant, Racist, Bigot.

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      • red March 21, 15:28

        sense: The is a bigot. Most rednecks will tell you, you can’t be a good redneck without some redskin in you. Dr. Sowell’s book Rednecks in the South: Black and White met with major criticism from bigots like The. But, he was right. Hicks are and anways were followers of Pres. Jackson, which makes The a hick. niio

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    • SC March 21, 14:31

      Wow, that’s harsh not knowing them personally. But, I suppose that screaming racism makes it ok…hypocrite

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    • red March 21, 15:08

      the: You can’t be a good redneck without a little redskin in you. Better up on things. Dr. Thomas Sowell: Rednecks of the South Black and White. Hicks are democrats. Rubes are Republicans. KKK-DNC. Nazis-DNC and Soros is owner of the party, and he’s a former Gestapo agent.Hitler was gay and killed gays. His doctor and friend listed him SEXUALITY: HOMOSEXUAL. That makes you the bigot, invader, and rednecks Native American.

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    • glenna March 21, 16:47

      Sorry I am from a long line of hick. We have friends of all races and religions. Come to our BBQ or fish fry and pretty well equal in blacks and whites. The only thing we have in common is we don’t care how you live, but don’t tell us we have to live the same way. And 2nd thing, we know how to take care of ourselves. Be it hunting, fishing, growing our own food. But thanks for stereotyping us by the actions of a few.

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    • Mark Belk March 21, 17:51

      Yep, You are right so keep your marxist ass away from us!

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    • PlainJane March 22, 07:26

      Wow! You need to get out more buddy. Been in your Mom’s basement trolling for the last 10 years? Seriously, good people and bad people come from all walks of life. Get out and meet discounted folk. You might learn something

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    • A Texan March 27, 19:25

      American Way. we in the ” hicks and rednecks are peace-hating, racist, sexist, homophobic bigots who think their twisted Nazi way of “good old boy” land. do us a favor never ever move here!!!! We really don’t like people like you trying to trying to us that our centuries old life style is bad as we don’t give a damn about what you think.

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    • Vickie Ross March 27, 22:30

      I am glad to be a West Virginian. Further more you are wrong. I don’t believe in the way gays & lesbians live their lives. It is their choice to live that way. Secondly I taught my kids to not to make fun of people & third & last I don’t shove my beliefs down other peoples throats. But the dems & their leftist ideology . Is being shoved down mine. I will continue to fight as long as the leftist shove their ideology down my throat. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸❗

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    • Former Liberal March 27, 22:47

      Fine. Dont come to any of these states then! Incidentally, I was born and lived in New York City until joining the military. You can have crap holes like that, while I’ll take the free state of Tennessee any time!

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    • TheTruthBurns March 28, 14:27

      Your name should be TheLiberalArrogantCommieWay – You just described California & New York.

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    • AlabamaGirl March 28, 15:48

      why would you be at a site like this? You obviously have no inkling as to where would be a good place to bug out. You see, we are southern and we are loving and kind, unless of course you come at us with all that bull crap hateful rhetoric. So, you go ahead and stay in your lovely ignorance and we will continue to thrive in our loving environment. Good day to you.

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      • red March 29, 14:20

        Alabama: Troll, a spoiler, is why he came here. Just tell him, Hello Mrs. Clinton, thanks for the input and rag them for fun. that’s how you treat trolls. You live in a beautiful state with a lot of good people. walk in beauty

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      • Graywolf12 April 9, 14:44

        Bless his soul. My wife of 60 years is an Alabama girl, and I was a damn Yankee from Pa so the marriage would not last . Liberals are always wrong.

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        • red April 9, 21:49

          Graywold: Pennsyltucky? Pa is a great state to see how destructive the pandemic-rats are. Next best, Mexico and the weak sister of the dnc, the pri. I’m home in Arizona. Small town, most folks are preppers, and bugging out in place. niio

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    • Stukahna Sandbahr March 30, 16:09

      Sounds like you’ve known quite a few, which I doubt. Like people who say Fox news it uber-right, but never watch.

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      • red March 30, 17:40

        Stukahna: Trolls a-plenty and done myself a few times. But, anyone who comes to me and says Fox news is conservative will get an earful. Some of the people, yes.

        How is life treating you? Down here, BBQs going on, hiking in groups (safer that way with gangs around, the more guns the better), and so on. It’s summer now, but still cool enough for a virus to survive. But, very few care. Most cases came out of kali-fornia. Mexico threatened to sue the state if kali sends another bus-load of sick people south.
        niio

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  5. Lara March 20, 18:32

    Last time I looked or tripped I believe Iowa was between Missouri and Minnesota. Think it is still there.

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  6. TnAndy March 20, 19:54

    I’d would not be surprised to see unemployment hit +30%, assuming they ever publish real statistics.

    Lot of employers will be gone when this is over, the economy is going to change forever,

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    • Rationale Thinker March 20, 21:24

      You just described yourself!!!

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    • left coast chuck March 20, 23:04

      TnAndy: Real unemployment figures are a distant memory. They haven’t been real in probably 50 years or more, ever since the powers that be decided if you had been unemployed more than 6 months you weren’t actually looking for work and therefore weren’t unemployed or whatever mind twist they used to decide that 6 months automatically put you back in the employed ranks.

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  7. left coast chuck March 20, 19:59

    I would suggest that if one is not already in one of the good states to ride out a depression, the best place to ride out a depression is your present home.

    When you consider moving expense, if you are going to rent, there will be first and last month’s rent and/or cleaning deposit, utility bill deposits, new driver’s and vehicle license, and the myriad other expenses involved in a move.

    In addition, unless you are moving back to your old neighborhood, establishing a new circle of friends, trying to find a new job: “Oh, I see you just moved here from XXX. Okay. We’ll give you a call if something opens up.”

    In addition, many states have regulations against folks who have just immigrated from signing up for various aid programs. One must establish “residency” and the period can range anywhere from a month to six months.

    If you owned a home and sold it at the depths of a depression, you are going to take a bath on it. Yes, perhaps you can pick up another home in the new area with your cash reserves, but you again run into the same problem of utility deposits etc.

    I would suggest if you think the economy is going to go into the crapper — and if you don’t, I would suggest catching up on current news — your best bet is to start conserving your dollars. Get rid of debt. Start looking for alternative ways to earn a buck — no, robbing banks is not a good alternative.
    Of course, the up side to robbing banks, if it is a federally insured institution, you will go to a federal pen with two hots and a cot, so you won’t have to worry about shelter and meals, although you may have to worry about Bubba.

    If you don’t need one or more of your vehicles, get rid of the extras before the bottom really drops out and notify the DMV and your insurance company right away so you won’t get billed for a car you don’t own.

    Consider how many errands a day you can walk to the destination or ride a bicycle. It’s the short trips that eat into your mileage.

    Drop your gym membership. Hey, the gym’s closed anyway, no sense paying them for non-use. Make sure you make the effort to get dropped. It is easier to not pay them than it is to try to get your money back.

    Do you really need deluxe cable? Can you get by with basic? Do you just have to have the sports channel? Can you use antenna? $300 for an installed antenna and the rest is gravy.

    Look at your booze habit. Can you get by with Bud or do you have to have the premium micro-brewery beer? Can you really tell the difference between the 12 y.o. single malt and Johnny Walker Red? Is the difference in taste worth the extra cost of Black Label?

    Must you have Silver Oak cab or will two-buck Chuck do? Or how about this? Kick the wine with dinner habit. Is it time to consider giving up tobacco? Cigs are $8.00 a pack in the PDRK and that is the advertised off brand.

    If you are one of the states that has not ordered restaurants to go take-out only, do you really have to go to Outback or will Sizzler do? Why not barbecue at home?

    Speaking of take out, cooking at home is always cheaper than restaurant food unless you are talking about fast-food chains but then I was talking about food not Soylent Green.

    Just a few ideas about how to tighten your belt when the economy tanks. Notice I said “when,” not “if.”

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  8. Scott Nunya March 20, 21:18

    I think you missed the mark with this opinion Rich. You left out the “Redoubt”, that portion of the US that has generally low population density, lots of natural resources, and economics… Constant, modest growth, but I think most importantly, the people here. Hard-working, conservative folks reaching out to community members to help…donating funds to keep local businesses open, donating excess diapers, baby formula, flour… to those in need. Idaho and Utah is the place to be now. Praying for our nation and humanity.

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  9. Brokenfarrier March 21, 00:07

    I would like a hard copy of your book, I don’t think digital is compatable with off grid !

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    • Claude D. March 24, 07:25

      Hi Brokenfarrieri,

      Thank you so much for your interest in our work.
      The Lost Ways, The Lost Ways II and The Lost Book of Herbal Remedies are all available in physical copy too.

      God bless,
      Claude

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  10. IvyMike March 21, 00:36

    The author seems to imply we don’t have hillbillies in Texas, ha, East Texas is full of hillbillies but we call them white trash instead, majority of them meth heads and junkies, and when I call up the sex offender locator I see red dots all over marking evil men in singlewide trailers on a county road. It’s impossible to find an old house out in the country to fixer upper here.
    Governor Strangelove has ordered schools, restaurants, gyms here to close. Lines were out the door at gun shops today.
    Left Coast Chuck tells the truth, economic preparedness is about as essential as it gets. We have no debt, our assets are protected, and we’re stocked with good food and cheap likker. I’m not going into town until this all works itself out.

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    • left coast chuck March 21, 03:05

      Mike: Everybody likes to knock “hillbillies.” The original “hillbillies” were Scots-Irish settlers. many of them sold into limited slavery as political prisoners from the wars for independence waged by Scots Highlanders and Irish patriots fighting against British rule over Irish lands.

      The British “solution” to prisoners was to have them transported where contracts were sold to English settlers who paid for the cost of their transportation to either the American colonies or Australia/New Zealand. What a simple solution. Instead of housing “rebels” who couldn’t see the advantage of English rule over their homelands, the English shipped them off to the places mentioned. The good ole’ two birds with one stone solution. Don’t have to feed them anymore, even though rations could hardly be called food and it doesn’t cost us anything to get the out of our hair because the colonists will pay for “indentured” servants, that is slaves just not for life. “You’re not slaves, you are freeman, just working off the contract for the cost of your involuntary transportation.”

      They were fiercely loyal to their family and clan. They were proud, hard working people, suspicious of strangers, but generous to a fault with friends and family. They were a significant portion of the reason why we are no longer a part of the British Empire.They were resourceful, thrifty, able to make-do in meagre circumstances. They settled land that no one wanted and managed to eke out a living for themselves and family.

      They will survive the end of the world. They know how to hunt, dress out game, eke out a living from worn out soil,. They know herbal medicine — something they have learned out of necessity because modern doctors who want to have million dollar incomes don’t want to practice in a locale where the doctor bill is still paid with a 5-gallon jug of moonshine or five chickens.

      Don’t swear at hillbillies. If I were looking for a likely place where the residents would resist take-over by some misguided wanna-be dictator, it would be hillbilly country. If I wanted to have neighbors who knew how to drive a team of horses, it would be hillbilly country. Spin and weave, hillbilly country. Know herbal remedies inside out, ditto.

      Yeah, unfortunately, too many of our fiercestly independent
      citizens have been struck low by drugs and alcohol and the meth epidemic. That would be the downside to moving to “hillbilly” country. If someone were to move in with a superior attitude toward uneducated, dirt poor farmers they could count on a reciprocal attitude from their new neighbors. Seems natural to me. Treat me like something stuck to your shoe and don’t expect me to greet you with open arms.

      The problems in Appalachia are deplorable but as has always been the case, the problems are mostly ignored, shoved under the rug, We worry more about the multi-million dollar athlete who overdoses on drugs than we do the salt of the earth, backbone of America citizen who has fallen prey to the vicious drug trade.

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      • red March 21, 15:17

        chuck: Before the war between the states and dnc take-over, Appalachians were well-to-do, supplying ham and bacon, salt beef, tobacco, ginseng and so on. Socialists, the dems, destroyed the mountaineers. There were small industries all over from Maine to Florida. Women raised sheep and cotton, making cloth to sell and sheep cheese. Dairy belonged to them, selling butter and cheese by the barrel. And the dems destroyed that. Now, no matter skin color, we’re rubes, not hicks! 🙂 BTW, Hollywood conservatives plan a new show about the dems: As The Stomach Turns. niio

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    • red March 21, 04:37

      Hillbillies! man, my grandmother from W. Virginia would be aiming her little girly gun lung puncher at the monitor right now. Her mother-in-law would be spitting snuff juice at you! You mean East Texas sheep molesters AKA New Orleans-West. Swamp rats! Good God awmighty! (yes, this post is to be read tongue-in-cheek–we only joke about the serious stuff 🙂 niio

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      • IvyMike March 22, 01:02

        I have friends and relatives in rural Missouri and Oklahoma and they tell me meth and opioids are epidemic in the small towns. And small town Texas has had bad drug problems since the late 50’s when Rx speed, seconal, pharmaceutical cocaine and dilaudid were easily available. How did I outlive so many friends?
        I get to make fun of hillbillies because my Dad’s family came over to Kentucky as indentured servants when England was clearing out the Debtors Prisons in the 18th century. They drifted all the way to the Texas hills by the Civil War, wearing out 3 or 4 farms on their way to the thin rocky soil of Comancheria.
        ATF was still chasing Moonshiners out there in the 1970s.

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        • red March 22, 08:30

          Mike: GtT was a mainstay in a lot of Native American areas. I’ve white ancestors who sold themselves into bondage just to get here. so, yes, we have genuine slave blood in us 🙂 Hill country, eastern Pennsylvania, the Pocono Mtns, the saying always was, it snows every day in the Poconos. One grandmother was part-owner in a speakeasy in the 20s, and said heroin was very common. Coke, people made their own up till Carter outlawed importing the leaves. A few folks are still selling corn by the jug, but it’s getting crowded there. Go down to Cochise Co., AZ, and you can find folks who still make their own (AKA hillbilly hand sanitizer 🙂 or bring it up over the border on mules. niio

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          • Off grid hillbilly March 22, 14:19

            I live in Cochise county Az., I was all set to defend it until I realized that the more people who believe what you just stated, the better. I’m good with everyone thinking we’re a bunch of ignorant, moonshining, gun toting, illegal aliens down here. No one will move to our little section of land! Yay!!

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            • red March 22, 18:30

              Off: You mean Cochise isn’t like that??? there goes my respect for all of you! 🙂 I think half the scary stories I heard growing up had to do with Cochise county. I nearly bought a place down your way, but the VA said no. At the time, a house had to be on a foundation, not wheels. Here, if you ask folks, especially Mexican Americans, why they own so many guns, they all say the same, Too close to friggin Tucson (45 miles south of us). I agree. Do not recall how long it’s been since I last saw the Embudos and Skeleton Canyon. A little old lady told me when I was a kid, at certain times of year in the dark of the moon, you can hear echos of gunfire in the Canyon, where old man Clanton wiped out the Estrada Gang. Folks on both sides of the border say Clanton should have got a medal for that act of mercy on humanity. Best to you, and mind the mesquite root. I hear it adds good flavor to what’s boiling:) niio

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              • Off grid hillbilly March 22, 23:46

                Red: shhhhh that’ll be our little secret about Cochise county, wink wink. Lol. We’re scary down here.

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                • Hawthorn March 26, 16:24

                  Scary can be good… What’s a good town to look at for a little piece of dirt? Hubby relocating to Tucson (work) & I’m looking for a piece I can keep myself & the ducks on. Not giving up Montana or northern AZ,just splitting time between them. Just a displaced Montanan making a living right now.

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                  • Off grid hillbilly March 26, 18:52

                    Hawthorn: if you’re asking me Sierra Vista, Hereford and surrounding towns are pretty good. About 1 1/2 hours from Tucson. It’s high desert here so we don’t get the nasty hot temps they get in Phoenix or Tucson.

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                  • red March 27, 02:32

                    Hawthorn: Most of Arizona is good. Stay away from I-10. It’s called the Phoenix-Tucson corridor because it’s one housing development after another. The housing costs should begin to drop thanks to the panic, but not for long. we came back a few years ago, paid 80K for this place, and now it’s valued at over 90 and climbing. The only other place we saw was on Reddington Rd, north of Cascabel. It was 120K then, close to 200 now. Best to you, and here’s the advice of many, STAY OUT OF SOUTH TUCSON. niio

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            • Graywolf12 April 9, 14:56

              I decided the same thing on defending East Texas. I think it is jealousy because they see people being happy, raising their families, and going to church with a hand gun in their belt. They are too wussified to even touch a bible or a gun. We do not need or want them here.

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    • glenna March 21, 17:02

      Er, why is everyone connecting dope and hillbillies ??? Anyone here ever go into the cities ?? Drugs are big time there. Glad I am too far out for them to drive out to steal in this area. At least the local dopers know not to mess with us.

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      • left coast chuck March 22, 00:07

        Unfortunately, too true, Glenna. I didn’t mean to imply that country folk were the only victims of the drug trade. In actual numbers, of course, the cities far outpace them.

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      • red March 22, 01:45

        Glenna: Copperhead Road. In the hills where I was raised, the state came down hard on stillers. kids started hauling weed to town under stuff for the farm market. After discussing it with their grandparents, one bunch bought seed from a some people down in Allentown (Pennsylvania) and mixed it with the cow feed before the beeves went up on the mountain pasture. That was mid-60s, and they made a mint, till their father contacted the county ag rep, who about browned his shorts.No flash, no new cars, clothes, TVs. You know country. Quick on the brain or quickly dead. It was after Carter wrecked the economy you had to watch when hiking because of boobytraps. niio

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  11. Miss Kitty March 21, 03:06

    I would agree with those who advocate staying put for the reasons they suggested, but I would add the fact that if the job market is going to be tight, people aren’t going to take kindly to “strangers” moving in and competing for work and housing. Unless you have family that can put you up in these locations, it’s better to stay put until you HAVE to move. We well may be seeing situations like the Depression Era migrations of people who had to follow the jobs and take what’s available.

    On the news, people were complaining about the borders being closed to migrant workers…one commercial farmer was complaining that he couldn’t find help he needed to grow and harvest his crop. I would bet that is true…for the wages he wants to pay. Americans won’t work for below minimum wage for 15 hour shifts and no benefits like the “undocumented” do….not yet. After the economy implodes and unemployment climbs into double digits, people will happily take what they can get, and the powers that be know it. Then we’ll see company towns, company stores, tent cities and the Joads picking strawberries and lettuce.

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    • red March 21, 15:25

      Miz Kirry, God Bless. Don’t believe the crap about migrant workers. The jefe, the boss of the unit, will not take less than going rate for work. Most pickers are local folks who want some extra cash under the table–with no taxes taken out even minimum wage is a living wage. The problem is, too many kids today want it all handed to them, not have to work. Yet, any ad asking for pickers is always answered by a lot of Americans. Problem for a farmer, Americans will not tolerate BS, so mojados are preferred by corporate farms/producers. niio

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      • Miss Kitty March 23, 03:29

        Yes, this jives with the story I saw…it was a commercial onion farmer, a factory farm, and the owner reminded me of corporate people I’ve worked for. Out only to make a buck in the most penny pinching, corner cutting, self serving kind of way…he would be the type to get the cheapest labor possible and exploit the crap out of them if it meant saving so much as a nickel. Unfortunately, there’s a lot of bosses out there who are like that.

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    • Loggerchick April 13, 09:09

      Move to Utah! It is beautiful and has plenty of flat land to build on.Idaho is already being over run and it’s mostly mountains!

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  12. Mic Roland March 21, 23:39

    From your list, yes, Minnesota is usually colored “blue” but that’s deceptive. I lived there for many years — out in the boonies parts. The vast majority of Minnesota’s square miles are conservative — hard-working rural folk. Rural Minnesota would a survivable place. The Twin Cities, no way.

    It’s the Twin Cities area that is thoroughly steeped in politically-correct thinking, someone-else-do-it-for-me, etc.

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    • PlainJane March 22, 22:50

      That could be said for the vast majority of cities, or cess pools as I’ve come to view them. Lived in one for 38 years. Wish I’d stayed in a small town or rural area instead. I would be better off now, no doubt.

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    • 0352 March 27, 22:24

      Mick,
      As you stated, the Twin Cities have been taken over by the leftists. Minneapolis now has the largest population of scumbag Somalis in the nation. They elected a goddamned Muslim woman to the US House of Representatives. In 20-30 years Minneapolis will be unlivable for white Christians just as Dearborn, Michiganistan is today. Demography is destiny!

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      • Jake d March 28, 01:48

        Minneapolis and St Paul are Kalifornia wannabes. They also made a Muslim AG. I’m looking into moving to South Dakota.

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        • red March 28, 10:55

          Jake: Just stay away from Pine Ridge. It’s mostly liberals where most reservations aren’t. One son-in-law, a Lakota, said, we have Pine Ridge because it’s illegal to throw ‘trash’ on the road anywhere else. 🙂 niio

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  13. SAdams March 22, 18:57

    So, do you think that Texas and the Dakotas will still be the paradises you present them as with oil and gas in the toilet? Without that money and Federal spending, what will pay for plowing the roads and fixing up after the tornadoes? Just wondering.

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    • red March 23, 10:11

      AS: I lived in Ohio and after a tornado, people in the area did like Missouri and OK, they pulled together and cleaned up instead of waiting on all the redtape the feds lay down. Rural, town, city, they all did the same. I lived in Pennsylvania, where they get nor’easters, north Atlantic hurricanes in late winter. I saw what happened to the twin towers in NYC. No one waits for the feds to do anything, but rushed in to help where they could. Partts of Florida, folks tell me, are still laughing about all that help the feds promised after Andrews hit them. No one held their breath but did what they could for each other. that’s neighbors. In Baltimore, thugs are wearing body armor not because of other thugs, but because good people are buying guns at an unheard of rate off or reservations. Because government only exists to promote government, not to help people. niio

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    • left coast chuck March 25, 16:51

      SAdams: They will probably do what they did before nestling up to the federal teat — do it themselves. If we weren’t sending so much money to the District of Corruption we just might have some money left over at the end of the month to spend locally.

      Everyone talks about federal money as though it was manna from heaven. It really isn’t. It is what is left over of the money you originally sent to DC after the pols and bureaucrats have siphoned off significant portions.

      There has always been the “If we don’t get it, someone else will” attitude toward federal money that causes the constant searching for the federal teat and then there is the coercive force of the federales compelling compliance by threatening to cut off the local political entity from the federal teat if they don’t fall in line with the central planning committee mandate.

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  14. red March 23, 11:53

    Jane: 100%. But, I keep hearing from folks in the cities that they’re prepping as best they can, too. NYC, Baltimore, LA, Chi. Buy a gun and ammo, hide it under the floor, the ceiling, anywhere jackboot thugs can’t find it. Same with food. Families in one stepdaughter’s old ‘hood in NYC and the Bronx are getting together to rent an extra apartment to stock or keep a small flock of chickens. You do the best you can with what God gave you. You know small towns and rural areas are targets for thugs, legal thugs and gangbangers. Stay safe. niio

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  15. SGB March 26, 16:46

    TN is not Republican controlled. It is a mixture.d Nashville is liberal and liberal controlled.

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  16. SGB March 26, 16:48

    TN is not Republican controlled. It is a mixture.d Nashville is liberal and liberal controlled. The big cities in TX are also liberal controlled, Dallas, Ft. Worth, Austen, Houston and San Antonio.

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  17. jjinak March 26, 21:01

    Alaska is not on your map or ever mentioned! We are in the United States ,please include us and Hawaii too!

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  18. HARVILL March 27, 19:23

    WHY NOT MISSIPPII IT IS SPARSELY POPULATED STATE. IT HAS A STRONG MEDICAL SUPPORT SYSTEM. INCLUDING THE MILITARY HOSPITALS,AND VA HOSPITALS..THE COST OF LIVING HERE IS ONE OF THE LOWEST IN THE US..THIS STATE IS THE PERFECT PLACE TO BUG OUT TO…

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    • red March 27, 22:39

      Because you folks SHOUT too much 🙂 I’m kidding. It is good. I liked the country and the people. but, it’s too wet for me. But, when folks ask where’s a good place to live that isn’t dirty or expensive, I send them your way. Unless you’re already dogged in, Arizona is too expensive. niio

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  19. Jinxey March 29, 16:49

    You overlooked probably the best state of all to outlive a Great Depression–Northern New Mexico. Small towns and lots of farms and ranches and millions of acres of wilderness and wildlife–with only about a million people in the entire state that is about half the size of Texas. Very rural, very small townish, very cheap cost of living.

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    • red March 30, 01:09

      Jin: ClergyLady is from there, west of Albuquerque. Mexicans and Naitve Americans call the NM gov loony left in the nutty north for a reason. Yes, NM is beautiful, not badly populated (go see the I-10 corridor near me) but is ruled by Kali-fornia and DC worse than Arizona.Were it not for that, the state would be about perfect to live in. niio

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  20. Ar 15 April 8, 21:49

    lmao i’m in france i’m in the middle of this shit

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    • red April 9, 12:26

      You’re in France??? You have my sympathy 🙂 Quick, get to Germany and start smoking cigarettes! The Germans are saying studies show people who smoke only very rarely are getting sick. I think it said 0.023% of smokers and 6% of non-smokers. Be careful and let us know how it’s going for you. niio

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  21. a r 15 April 9, 18:39

    I’m in france but i live in the middle of know where, only forests and pastures around here for at least 3 kilometers all around, we are all good for the moment

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  22. ar15 April 9, 18:43

    as for smoking, i’m only 13 and nobody in my family smokes. Germany sounds great though, even more infected than here i’l totally go there.

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    • red April 9, 22:40

      ar: You always post cool things. You must have excellent parents to write so well. A niece in ‘Stadt, Germany, decided she was staying put. I think they had one corona in her village, a farming community, and most people are preppers 🙂 niio, walk ini beauty

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  23. aR 15 April 9, 23:07

    i don’t want to sound dumb but when u said i have good parents to wright so well what do you mean.

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    • red April 10, 16:53

      You’re hardly dumb. Good parents encourage a good education. Not many 13-year-olds write as well as you, or bother to learn more than one language. How many can tell you where the countries of Europe are located? How many think America is more than place they want to visit?

      We learned to read and write when still in diapers sitting on the adults’ laps. math, same. Geography, geometry, pi are things farmers use a lot, and we farmed. Farmers will tell you, Quick on the brain or quickly dead. That’s one more to say you have good parents. they chose rural over city to raise you. By now you should have at least some knowledge in forestry, biology, mechanics, and so on. Your parents are good to raise you there. niio

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  24. A R 15 April 10, 21:12

    thancks although one of my parents jumped ship they both razed me well. i’ve always bin kind of a nerd so i know alot about biology and stuff although i’m blind so it mostly restricts me to theory. as for learning an other language, i’m bilingual with english cuz one of my parents is english. she never bothered to teach me how to read and write but i spoke it at home often and it helped me to learn how to write in like 1 year or so.

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    • red April 11, 16:00

      AR: Most languages are taught audio. The CIA and FBI are big on learning how to that way. Linguistics is a good profession. I bet you have a sharp memory. You see with your hands and ears. The wind speaks things n one else can hear. Yes, I know some folks who are blind. We had a school for the blind in eastern Pennsylvania, but the democrats closed it. It was a bitter thing, but they love money more than humanity. People got together and started a private school with local business donating and helping find jobs and training. Stay strong. niio

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