Have you ever been invited to someone’s house for the first time and immediately knew they were a prepper? What jumped out at you to draw that conclusion?
The stockpiles of food and supplies in plain sight? The solar panels and generators? Oftentimes, quirky features make it completely obvious where a prepper resides.
The problem is if you can spot a prepper, who else can? When SHTF, where do you think desperate people are going to go first to beg, loot, and intrude?
That’s right, a property that looks like they have food and supplies is exactly where intruders will be drawn to. In all likelihood, soon-to-be intruders are already sizing you and your property up right now.
Instead of standing out like a sore thumb, here are 7 things on your property that are going to attract intruders if you don’t take the effort to hide them.
Visible Energy Sources
Solar panels have become a typical feature of the average household across America. However, when SHTF, your solar panels, combined with your lights, fans, air conditioning, and appliances will attract undue attention from onlookers.
Related: How To Prepare Your House Against Looters
Generators are also prime items of interest for intruders during critical times, as electricity infinitely expands their options.
If you have any other sources of energy in plain sight, like diesel drums, wind, or water mills, these will also attract the attention of looters.
The most desperate intruders will not only want to take these items, but they will also conclude there are more valuable items in the house that they can steal.
Outdoor deep freezers, extra refrigerators, grills, and smokers are necessary to stockpile food, and keep the inside of your home free of excess.
However, the visibility of outdoor appliances when SHTF will definitely catch the eyes of desperate intruders if they are in need of food and water.
Perform this mental exercise: Picture a desperate looter on the prowl for something to pilfer as they watch your garage door closing automatically when no one else has electricity.
At that moment, they catch a glimpse of your deep freezer and refrigerator. You have just made yourself an instant target to those determined to survive.
At that point, you better hope your self-defense system is primed and ready to go.
Though large animals are somewhat difficult to steal without a great deal of coordinated effort and risk, their presence implies that one is clearly prepared for the food crisis, as they are producing their own food.
Smaller animals like chickens, goats, or newborn livestock are also easy targets.
Even if these animals are not visible from your driveway or nearby roads, animals have a tendency to be noisy and will give away their location from a distance.
Barns on the property spark intuitive thoughts about food, supplies, tools, and fuel.
Off-road transportation and fuel will be extremely high-value commodities when SHTF.
Having a well-equipped vehicle with a bug out bag, weapons, water, food, fuel, and sleeping space is a dream find for a desperate and unprepared person, in an SHTF situation.
Related: Bug Out Vehicles – Why Most People Get it Wrong
Though it may look cool to random people who see you at campgrounds and hunting areas, that exact same status vehicle will trigger aggressive action from intruders.
Even your daily commuter will be a target simply because it’s there.
Also, keep in mind that vehicles parked in open spaces can be damaged or sabotaged intentionally by potential intruders to lure you out of your safe space and attack you when you are unprepared.
To avoid conflict, many believe that posting warning signs against trespassing is the best way to keep intruders out.
However, threatening signs may actually work against you.
These signs, intended to intimidate, may make people conclude that you are well prepped and have a great deal of food, fuel, weapons, alcohol, and supplies on your property. Why else would you go to such lengths to keep people away?
Rather than scaring them away, you may be giving them an invitation to scavenge your residence, as you have exactly what they are looking for.
Ham Or CB Radio Antennas
After the grid goes down, communication is going to be an issue and anyone prepared for the collapse will have some form of radio communication.
Equipped with an off-grid power generation system, both ham and CB radios allow for communication.
Related: How to Use a Ham Radio When SHTF (With Pictures)
For both of these radios to function, large antennas are required. While most radio operators may not be preppers, a prepper will ensure they are able to communicate with others after society collapses. While it is difficult to hide large antennas, be aware that they may draw unwanted attention from intruders.
Having a large garden on your property signifies that you must have food. Preppers grow all the food they can during the summer months and store it away so they have food during winter and beyond.
Starving intruders will take notice of residences that have large gardens in their yard and assume there is food inside.
Again, it is difficult to hide a large garden which is why it is better to live out in the country, far from the cities, when society collapses.
By no means is this a fully comprehensive list of items you have on your property that will attract looters when SHTF.
You may be reading this and thinking about other items visible in your space that will also attract intruders. Determine how to secure these items now while you still have time.
Between the war in Ukraine, the collapse of the food supply, and the looming financial fallout, your time to prepare is limited.
Do not fall into the comfort zone mindset, thinking that “everything will be fine”. Take every second and prepare now, but don’t make it obvious you are prepping and unwittingly make yourself a target to looters.
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Good. That is the same way we attract Hogs and Deer while hunting. With something attractive
People, don’t take what is not yours. You will get shot if you go there. If you find no one there to claim what you find, then so be it, fair game. Only in a SHTF scenario…
Yep, I recommend raiders seek life elsewhere. I know there are one or two liberals down the road. Seek those soft targets. Here they would never make it up the hill.
Hi, Would you help a neighbor even if they had different political views?
No argument. However, are you prepared to stay awake all night, armed to protect your garden, equipment, property, etc. ? Having been in a bad ass pos where sleep was a luxury, trust me, that takes a toll rapidly! I deer hunt many hrs per day during season, but even that takes a lot of energy and strength away after awhile. Just sayin, not criticizing.
As a RETIRED MARINE SGTMAJ i am prepared to protect and defend my property and house hold. Them LOONIES better think first as i have trained my family also, so let them come.
Oh no one more retarded, marine
Firewatch and someone on over watch is going to take away from your working force but it’s nessiary
raven: Stop drinking before posting. Now, explain to me why a tire house would burn?
Because someone sets it on fire
raven: Nope. That’s about impossible.
Luckily I have a service dog that looks and sounds like she will rip your head off. Really she is just protecting me and my PTSD. But she is a light sleeper and wakes me at the slightest noise – sometimes I am up a lot at night. LOL. If anyone is in the driveway or near the house, she goes haywire and gets me awake at any cost even jumping on my chest and running to the door. Usually turning the lights on and yelling out – I have called my biker friends and the police and have a loaded gun ready to shoot – get off my property – works really well. Bikers always beat the police here. Nothing like a biker gang to scare someone off. Thank God for good friends. But you are right about the sleep!
Our “neighborhod watch” is also our survival group. Armed strangers after TSHTF entering our area of control will be detained, or shot if they put up a struggle. Those who are detained will be stripped of anything useful and turned away from our group. Anyone who complaines about their treatment will be shot because we cannot assume their cost of feeding, shelter or watering. Those who can demonstrate useful skills we need will be offered an abandoned house for them and their families. They will WORK for their sustenance until we can trust them by using their families as hostages for their good behavior. We administer “law and order” according to our morality. If we catch one trying to escape to tell others there is only one way to ensure our survival. We will employ slave labor on miscreants whether the subjects are strangers or our own. With no law enforcement, we enforce the law.
Wow! You’ve given this a lot of thought. I hope these plans will never be necessary, but good to be prepared.
Fred: slave labor no! Execution, yes. What do you do if he escapes and comes back for revenge? niio
Don’t worry, citizens aren’t going to be the ones knocking at your door, it will be hired goons, by order of the moron of the United States. Hopefully we don’t learn too late that it’s going to be us against them. Every citizen will be a criminal in their brainwashed minds. They are EXTREMELY out numbered, but leave it to us to screw that advantage up too! Why do you think we are so divided??? It’s all part of them trying to even the odds a bit. I can see 3/4 of the country immediately handing over their guns, because they’re sheep, they’ve been made as such. We’ve forgotten all about “…indivisible, with liberty and justice for all”. Look up liberty, it literally defines what many of us fucking want! Wake up, or just lay down and die.
3/4 may hand over … but I will not. At my age if I can incapacitate (or better) 3 or 4 Constitution breakers, and a few more Grumpy Old Men in my area do the same, I’ll feel that my effort was justified. If that happens in enough places, the Official Goons will lose their enthusiasm for the job. Naturally, I don’t expect to survive the exercise.
Old and disabled but not afraid to shoot to kill. Grew up in NYC during the race riots and family was Mafia. Just try it. I have the right to defend my property and the USA is not getting my gun, if I have one and if I did if they could find it!
People need a hanging tree
We have one because we cannot afford to use firing squads, ammo is precious.
and a good rope is recyclable, it can be used many. many times before it becomes worn. 😈💀
That’s a waste of good meat. if you have problems with intruders when we’re deep inside SHTF just put them down and butcher them like you would any hog. Feed them to your pets. You’ll save on pet food. 😉 LOL!
Nope…too obvious and unnecessarily cruel.
Just attach a loop around the feet that’s then looped over your trailer hitch.
Have him sing his death song, and slip the noose over his neck…or vice versa.
Tie the loose end of the noose rope to a solid fixed object, and drive just two or thee feet until you hear a pop.
Disconnect the noose and drag his dead ass down the road past the stink point and recover your rope.
Be sure to take the head with you to the post stink point.
Fast death and no gagging sounds.
No grave to dig.
Don’t worry I’ll move the garden indoors.
This article makes a new prepper really go hmmmmm…. I totally get the logic here and I am wondering if you have solutions to becoming more incognito. thank you.
I grow vegetables in pots around my pool. They look more like decorations than food. But it’s just me so I don’t need a whole lot at a time.
that is actually a great idea!! good thinkin!
Camouflage! Not for your stuff. For you. If you are like most of us, you have all of those things. People know we have huge gardens, and livestock, and generators, and solar, and vehicles. Although there are some things you can do to hide some of it, the investment you will spend to cover it all you would be better off investing in hardening your site.
There are a number of ornamental plants that are also food sources. Hostas grow in shade. Canna lilies are completely edible. Jerusalem artichokes look like sunflowers. Daylilies are edible. If you have wet areas nearby seed them with cattails. Bury supplies in waterproof containers. The board or armed gangs will swoop in loot and move on. They are not going to closely search every inch of your area for buried supplies
Leave a decoy amt for them to loot and think they have your stuff.
Yes, you can do what is known as “survival gardening” with this technique you don’t plant in straight rows but rather scatter your plants in various places, along the wood line, next to the house, make it look like its just some “random plant” that came up.
You’d be surprised at how many people haven’t got a clue what fruit and vegetables look like while growing in their natural state, they’d walk right by a potato plant or bean bush and never think twice about it.
OK people get your keyboard fingers ready.
In a SHTF situation, a warning sign of some sort might invite looters in. But a message like A HEAD ON EVERY OTHER FENCE-POST, will make them think twice about what they are planning.
Personally, I think that is the kind of message we need at our southern border. Come in the right (legal) way, welcome. Jump the fence or swim the river, join the POST-POPULATION !
Kinda brings a new meaning to the phrase “Post-It Notes”. lol.
Sorry. My warped sense of humor just let that slip out.
The time for “finger shaking” is over, because it being ignored.
Time for finger breaking to begin, because THAT WILL get the message across.
If you help a criminal commit a crime, does that not make you a criminal also?
Just my opinion folks.
I would suggest mining the first 10 yards ON IU SIDE of the border, posting signs warning of mined land in both English and Spanish, them leave the remains of illegals there for the show we mean business.
I LOVE this!
They wouldn’t even understand what “a head on every post” is saying Wendy! These are the sheep who follow every order made by the MSM. Sheep are not smart and constantly afraid. You’d have to be much clearer
I concur! More helpful detail info would be what I am looking for too. Had my old painted copper drain pipes ripped out of the gutter and pilfered from the front of the house while I was at work several years ago now, the flowers pulled from pots on the front stoop, sometimes they took the pots too, and the Christmas Wreath yanked off the front door. So here in the big city, they are honed and crafty and could careless about what you consider to be your personal property. Heck, I heard that there was some socialist running for Congress who was urging her supporters to move into vacant houses, houses for sale, summer homes, and places where folks away for a while those were the places that they should move right into! They are also offering up tax discounts on a voluntary basis now if you allow them to move in home less families. This is some of what’s coming your way and one person alone cant stop it! The game you’re playing has changed!
Problem being it is perfectly legal for a human to cross a border and request asylum, which is what most of them are doing these days. Gov. Abbot and Costello has hundreds of State Troopers lined up along the border to catch people who only want to turn themselves in. Meanwhile criminals rampage across the state and cops stand around outside the classroom door eating donuts for an hour while children slowly bleed to death. Thinking when Trump gets re-elected he will withdraw from all those inconvenient international treaties and we can be just like North Korea.
“a”, the law states that asylum must be requested in the FIRST safer country you enter when seeking asylum, so crossing our southern border and requesting asylum in the USA only applies to actual Mexican citizens, it is NOT Legal for all others from other countries to cross several countries and then request asylum in the USA, and also not legal for our idiots in power to allow it.
keep your weapons clean and your powder dry, you may need them sooner than expected.
That worked for Jeremia Johnson when he was warning off superstitious blackfeet, but a wandering homeless type might just set up a hide nearby, and watch your place until he calculates who all is there, and then plan on how to take you all out…one at a time.
It yells out to passer byers there is something in there worth defending!
Wendell: Problem. This would also attract raiders who think you own a lot more than you do. Some ranchers on the border put plastic, weathered human bones on a trail and walked in pads like grizzly tracks. No invaders at all for months. niio
If the things that help you and your family survive are the very things that will get you in trouble or killed, what do you suggest? It seems like a loss whatever you do! UGH!
Also, post some helpful advice about handling pets, elderly less mobile, and disabled (mental and physical) people as well as people on meds for chronic conditions and those with hyper- and hypoactive thyroid problems and meds in nuclear/radioactive and other SHTF conditions.
Mary, you have to take some personal responsibility. If you need meds, talk to your doctor and explain that you are trying to prepare. I did n Dr increase the amount by saying I took it twice as often as I really did. I was able to get a 6 month supply built up. Be sure to rotate,oldest first. If you have medical condition that requires in hospital stays come to grips with the fact that you are not going to have it available. Get right with the Lord and be realistic about your survival in a complete grid down situation. I’m sorry to be so frank but it seems most people will not tell you the truth. Someone has to. Do what you can and be sure to look for alternative things, including holistic. Thyroid can be controlled without big pharma. My sister does it, but I don’t know anything about it personally. Good luck in your endeavors.
the hard truth must be said…. It is sad and unfortunate but true nonetheless. Thank you for your frankness
Until recently, less than six months ago, all four of our parents were alive and all over 90. So we had a lot of “dealing with” the situation. The faecal matter impacting the rotating air impeller was not quite end of the world bad, but for the elderly being deprived of contacts, trips, familiar faces and so on it was very bad for them. Also, there was really major disruption of home health services and so we ended up delivering a lot of that ourselves. We were we thought recently well-prepared, but it quickly became clear we had not prepared enough for this specific niche need; with the exception that we had prepared as soon as we saw what was coming over the horizon, a lot of backups for OTC meds and disposables.
What we bought quite quickly and what we still have in stock although we have lost her mother and my mother…
– Get in ahead of any prescription drug shortages by making an appointment in person and asking the doctor how he/she can help keep our parents out of his clinic and the hospital he has admitting privileges at, by ensuring we can keep giving them appropriate medication
– As much is affordable stock up on adult diapers, dressings, colostomy supplies, ointments, unguents, vitamins etc.
– If you can afford it, and it’s a big if, because they are expensive, having a portable oxygen concentrator in the pulse oximeters can give peace of mind to everybody when they get chest infections or just “chesty”
– The elderly and confused may not do well with middle aged children but they seem to respond very well to grandchildren… an iPad to stay in touch with the little ones for video calls was a real bargain (and we bought it second hand)
– Mobility is key, even if only out to the garden. So, a pull-along cart, a solid wheelchair which also folds to go into a car, and warm clothes for winter if outside for any length of time
– Adults are not particularly at risk, from what I have read, if things go nuclear. It’s developing thyroid is not grown thyroids which are potentially at risk for cancers down the line.
Sorry to say this, but the most vulnerable among us may not make it. Many of the best prepared may not make it, depending how bad the situation gets. We all need to get right with God, and with anyone we want to mend fences with before SHTF.
May: Look in achieves. All you asked for it there for you. When there is no law, YOU are the law. You stay within the law because each state has on it’s books the right to self-defense and the defense of property.
I hope the sites help. niio
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mary, research iodine supplementation for much of your needs. many medical people don’t know as they weren’t taught, so teach yourself.
red ant, you are talking like a typical parasite, who does no good and only leaches off of others. You imply that it is right to take from others if he happens to be gone when you trespass on their property. Just because you didn’t prepare for an emergency, does not give you the right to steal from others.
you make me laugh.
Just like so many others, taking things out of context.
That’s okay. Better worrie about those closest to you, There you will find what you have said…
And yes I will take your stuff. Just like YOU WILL DO…If I came to your place and saw “you splattered in front of your place,” lol. your dead. considered it GONE. That mind set will be every where.
Remember closest to you…
But if I came and saw “you got took out”, lol. and your family was there, I would help them as much as I could. How about you. You do something like that.?
parasite. look close in the mirror, again you will find what you say.. lol…
In your defense, I read your statement to mean that if you saw an abandoned dwelling, you would take whatever you could to fill your needs. You strike me as the kind of person that, if you saw a hundred dollar bill on the ground, you would grab it; but if you saw that bill drop from someone’s pants without their knowledge, you would rush to make sure they go it back.
What is wrong with “teaching off others”? There is no original knowledge in our world today. Whatever is taught has been learned from the experience of others. If someone plagiarizes work, then that is an ethical crime that should be called out. But to expound on someone else’s work, in my view, is to either enhance the idea, or to question the veracity of it. Outright condemnation of an idea/thought without justifying the reason for condemning it just demonstrates ignorance or arrogance.
We have folks on this site that are more negative than positive. What they have to say has to be taken with a grain of salt, and just because they are negative, that does not necessarily mean they are wrong. The right to agree and disagree means we are humans with independent thought. If a statement from someone makes your blood boil, then take a moment to understand that you may have misinterpreted the context, or that autocorrect kicked in.. again…
prepper in training
You are right about me. but there are some people that just can’t get passed there own nose.
That hindered that fell out of the person pocket. I would give them twice as much back. if I could.
This JON guy is just a troll. maybe just needs more JESUS in his life.
Thanks for being there for your fellow prepper… bro…
those are the types of people you will be facing… learn from him instead of attacking him. you can not fight what you do not understand
Jon: You don’t understand red ant. I agree with him and with Prepper. Understand before commenting. niio
That’s because in your second account you are ‘red ant’. You are ‘red’ and red ant’. (and also have a very low IQ.
Dam you still coming back Mr ego.
Still LMAO @ you and can’t stop.
I did start to slow down. then you posted again and made me remember.
stop. please, don’t post any more…
I can’t laugh anymore, my lungs are hurting.
IQ, and you can spell IQ…
what a meatball. you are…
Jon Galvin, well Bless Your Heart, you really are just plain stupid, aren’t you? You sound like a member of the “Charlie Foxtrot” X-spurt fanatical Elohim cult. That idiot also thinks he can read minds and knows all about everything and everyone, what ignorant fools you are.
red ant: you and dz are right on with this one. Wow! niio
Pay no mind to that putz. Red Ant is just a harmless fool with nothing to do but lay around, collect welfare and get people worked up. Most loud mouths on here are cowards, who feel brave typing lines on a computer.
hey buddy Jon
what’s up know. come on to blow your own horn again.
How do you know what I’m like.
You, just trolling, trying to guess what you don’t know Boosting your ego and fan club.
Bring something to the coummnity, because, you trying to dog on me for your lack of being able to read my post and understand it.
So bring some knowlage to the site. There is enough dead heads on here.
you like this though. fighting with any one that makes you fill good to just be you. They have places that will help you with this problem you have with me.
Jonathan. You mean like your post? Have a nice day, brian.
It’s easy to come up with a list of problems. The hard part is to come up with solutions.
So here is one solution: Bugout gear in your car? I hope it isn’t in the rear passenger compartment but reasonably safely locked in your trunk. Oh, you have a pick up truck. Well, Pilgrim, one can purchase steel tool boxes for the bed of the truck that are weatherproof and can be affixed to the truck, making theft difficult. If the box is wired into the truck’s alarm system, at least the thief will sound an audible alarm.
When I had my minivan I had the windows in the rear sides and back darkened with 90% tint. In coordination with the OEM tint on those windows, the minivan looked like a 3-letter federale vehicle. It was impossible to see into the rear of the vehicle. That did a couple of things. First, it made the van cooler in the summer.
Next, as we used the minivan for car camping, it gave us complete privacy during the day and at night when the interior light were off.
And lastly it hid all of our survival gear stowed in the rear from prying eyes.
Finally, make sure you always lock all of your doors and have your windows rolled all the way up when you leave your vehicle. Just uncommon sense. Don’t leave the keys in the car and the engine running while you FHA’s in the store fit “just a minute”. A medium sized rock will make your vehicle disappear just as quickly as if a genie sent I t off in a puff of smoke.
And most importantly, lock your vehicle in your garage if at all possible.
There You have it. Some solutions to the problem of bug out gear visible to passers by.
Can I use fish amoxicillin in an emergency ?
We use it all the time. If you get your supply from a good source it’s works just as well as the Doctor supplies and Doctors are getting very stingy with prescriptions, have been for some time now. Best of luck in the upcoming SHTF era we’re getting closer to every day.. buydum certainly is a great leader, NOT!!!
There is a medical handbook (probably listed somewhere here on this site) that explains which pet meds can bus substituted. I’m fairly sure you can, but it has to be specific stuff, and you need to know dosages for humans.
Doom And Bloom
Fish antibiotics are manufactured by the same industries that manufacture human grade antibiotics. They are also labeled the same as in 250 mg or 500 mg. doses. Apply just as you would with human grade ie: 500mg one capsule daily. 250mg two capsules every 12 hours etc.
I have a box labeled Antibiotics: I have stocked several brands such as Ampicillin, penicillin, Cleocin, Keflex…etc
I’ve included what each is good for and recommended doses on a note card banded to the bottle.
Don’t be over concerned by expiration dates…these are stable chemicals and are effective long after their expiration dates…years after.
I am an Army trained medic and know these things, but other in my group may not.
my sister is a pharmacist, now retired, but a while ago I emailed her asking about pet antibiotics, including the aquarium fish antibiotics. She researched them all and emailed back saying the ones I sent her are the same ingredients as human prescriptions, and are just a safe to use, but you may need to adjust the dosage according to your body weight. It’s well worth the time to research fish/pet antibiotics and other medications to see if they are safe for human use, such as Ivermectin, which was developed for human use and the Ivermectin now sold for livestock is safe for human use as long as you adjust the dosage, such as an 800mg horse dosage may need to be reduced to 200mg or less depending on your body weight.
Catalytic converter theft is big business in SoCal. I went to the local muffler shop and instructed them to weld the cc to the frame. I didnt want it welded so completely that it would be almost impossible to remove for service but I wanted it welded enough that getting to it would be difficult with a zip saw. Because the welding rod is much smaller than the zip saw, the welder welded the cc in several places easy to cut out with a torch but difficult to access with a zip saw.
You can’t make something theft proof. What you try to do is make stealing it more trouble than the one down the street.
Same tho g with concealing your bugout gear. Can’t prevent a dedicated thief from stealing it. You just make it harder to see; harder to get at so that it is easier to hit another car.
If you sum up everything being said at this point, unless you live 100 miles from civilization, you might as well snap you head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye!!!!!!!
Most likely, most here, all live within 100 miles of a city, that’s why we are sharing survival information with one another.
Some may die, but not all. You most likely will, because of your negative outlook.
Git yourself a couple real big dogs and a couple real big guns.
Yep, and hope its not the “good” guys who accost your domain. As we learned at Ruby Ridge and Waco the dogs are the very first causalities.
Victimized: You live in PA, so it’s must be assumed you’re a victim. That’s PA politicians.
I have a xolo corriente (village dog) and they do not bark unless worried. Carolina dogs are a related breed. Silent and deadly.
I had a mini dachshund who would bark at anything. But, he was a great rabbit dog, hunt till he dropped or had a belly full of liver and hearts. Once in a while, someone would try to sneak in the house at night. He was always there happy to have a snack of ankle. Germans call minis little guard. niio
I came across an image of a garden that was set down a couple of feet into the ground, it seemed an intriguing way to hide it from easy sight.
I think I’d be worried about adequate sun exposure, tbh.
I have no clue if it’s feasible, but it was quite an eye catcher to be able to hide it from nosey ones.
S.S.M., A garden that is within a depression in the ground might end up susceptible to fungal diseases from a lack of air circulation. Maybe, there would be a way to create a cross-draft to mitigate the growth of diseases? Before the days of mechanical air conditioners, some houses had a plenum system that would draw air through. I am sure that someone who understands how to make air movement utilizing hot air rising could figure something out.
I have read that there is a way to do this for air circulation and warmth in the winter by running a reverse fan on pvc piping under your compost pile to warm the air and return it to the green house. I would think this same concept could be used a small battery-operated fan would do the trick nicely.
Interesting garden idea. Id worry about water drainage. You might end up with a rice paddy 🙂
rice is good, if you can grow it, do so
same with beans and legumes, grow some
You ask for a solution: (1) You must survive the Blast Wave (2) You must Survive the EMP Blackout (3) you must survive the short term radiation (4) You must survive the, different, Long term radiation (5) You must survive Short term starvation (6) You must survive long term starvation (7) You must survive Looters (8) You must survive radiation sickness. Lordie, If we survive this democrat administration, the fore mentioned issues should be a breeze !! Seriously, Get SAVED & LOVE people, even if they act like your enemy, this is what Jesus did and I’m trying to do the same.
I especially love Preppers — Jesus told his followers, “If you don’t have a sword, sell your coat and buy one” . That is, be prepared to defend yourself & those you love.
Chaplin Bob ..
Jesus also said that the one who lives by the sword shall die by the sword. More importantly, he taught the supremacy of the Kingdom of God – and that it is forever, while the kingdoms of this world are temporal and all will pass away.
Additionally, and more importantly, Jesus said that the one, who seeks to save his life will lose it, but the one who loses his life for Christ’s sake will find it – both now and for eternity.
Yeshusa said to sell your cloak and buy a sword
I would rather die by the sword defending what I care about than hiding away and hoping a SHTF situation will just “go away”.
Wayne: Jesus told his followers to buy swords. why do you think he said that? For self-defense. God also expects you to defend nation and home. He was not and never will be a pacifist. Stop taking his words out of context.
“Those who live by the sword, dies by the sword”, means to me they are robbers, looters and killers, and will reach their deaths by doing this.
Those who live by the sword are the ones we are training to defending against. They will be our targets down range
Viet-vet, you had a good start with several posts and then went sideways on the meaning of “live by the sword, die by the sword”. If you are a real vet, you have already “lived by the sword”, and if you are willing to use any means at your disposal to protect and defend what you care about, then you still retain the proper attitude, which really can be “Live by the Sword, Die by the Sword” as long your actions remain honorable.
dz: it means one as Viet-vet said, not soldiers, not us, but criminals. Understand the Bible is the original book on human psychology and the foundation of the science of psychology. niio
GTFO 🤣🤣🤣… Looters only want air Jordans and Gucci. Chicago videos have proved this
Putting up “No Trespassing ” signs are like putting up “Gun Free Zone” signs. Only good for attracting the wrong kind of people at the most unfortunate times.
I’ve got No Tresspassing signs on my property. Makes everything legal afterwards.
yep, as long as we still have laws that protect you… unfortunately if you live in a blue zone or a SHTF time those won’t help you in he least!
States that have the castle laws request you have a visible no trespassing sign to keep everything legal. In a SHTF scenario I would remove mine.
VERY well said!!!
The communists (democrats) have been trying to take our guns for over 50 years. You should get ready for what’s coming now that they have shown their true colors.
Republicans have been pretty effective at taking guns away as well
if you are referring to RINOs then yes I agree… but take notice of the America 1st Republicans… They are a whole new breed of Republican!!
Anti gun presidents Regan bush sr and Jr Trump Dan Crenshaw
No they don’t care about your 2a rights
The Reds have been showing their true colors since FD Roosevelt and LBJ. But, this Brandon fake president MF is openly socialist/early communist. He is just a senile, selected, mouthpiece for Obama. The masks do hide the earwigs well.
Baiting Russia when they are actively in combat is a very dangerous thing to do. If Putin dies in office his replacement is a pure war hawk, and will most likely hit us hard. Putin had warned us in advance.
We are currently fucking with a pissed off Russian Bear… in favor of a faggett Nazi actor in Ukraine, that we both selected, and put in power …how stupid is this Woke shit? Our national security has gone to hell.
Now the really bad news:
The censored 2025 Deagel.com predicts the US population in 2022 is at 332 million. In 2025 it is 99 million… that is a loss of 75%.
Russia currently has 146 million…in 2025 it will have 141 million with a loss of 3.4%
Who does Deagel indicate won the war?
Prep now for an EMP. The first strike will be an EMP. Be prepared for 10 years of darkness.
Within minutes the following strikes will be military targets and large population centers. Get at least out 50 miles if you are able.
Prepare now for potential nuclear fall out. Have Nascent Iodine preps for all your crew. Have an outdoor decontamination point at your entry point. Have a means to hang contaminated clothing outside. Wash all garden produce thoroughly. Keep all windows and doors taped to keep out dust-fallout.
If you live within 50 miles of a targeted area…move now.
Russia’s Poseidon torpedoes can generate a tsunami 75 feet tall…get away from the coastal areas to an elevation of at least 75 feet high…higher is safer. I live 75 miles inland at 105 feet.
But, a continuous north-east wind from out of Atlanta would present a fallout problem here. As would a south-eastern wind out of Jacksonville/St. Mary 100 miles to my south-east. A target 100 miles to my west makes me wary of direct western winds. All winds are variable but be aware of them in connection to suspected targeted areas. Just sayin.
Trust in God, and your preps. Pray for everyone you love. and Good luck…
Viet-vet, good post, and while reading about the winds I was wondering how many preppers have taken up “watching the weather”, similar to what farmers and fisherman do. I grew up on the Oregon coast and it was just part of being raised there to pay attention to winds, clouds, the ocean, and watch for approaching storms. I still often look around in all directions at any time day or night to “watch the weather”, and that has warned me twice about wildfires in the area. Once we actually evacuated but were already packed and ready when we saw the flames getting too close because me and a neighbor were “watching the weather”.
The “No Trespassing” signs shouldn’t be so quickly/easily dismissed. While I agree that it is *possible* they may attract some additional attention, there are (at least) two good reasons why a person might want to post some low-key no trespassing signs:
1) It does, in fact, imply that the owners may be prepared for trespassers with appropriate levels of force. Contrary to attracting would-be thieves or marauders, it may gently nudge them on toward another property that would not result in them having extra breathing holes installed in their bodies.
2) While I am not an attorney, the research I have done and advice I have received indicates that IF one were required to defend themselves or their property with deadly force, the signage would be considered to have been at least a first-line warning against entering the owner’s property without permission. Furthermore, it *may*, very technically, relieve said property owner from having to otherwise, in some way, announce to a trespasser that they are not welcome. But TO BE VERY CLEAR, deadly force should never be used unlawfully or without justification. Anyone who wants to be better prepared should familiarize themselves with the specific laws of the state they reside in. That being said, self-defense is a basic human right give by God. However, understand that even if you have followed the law to a T, you may still find yourself spending some time in the big house, fined, weapons permanently confiscated, and/or subject of a civil lawsuit. Either way, chances are extremely high that you will have to take out a second mortgage on your property to pay your attorney fees.
As a sort of epilogue, while a simple “No trespassing” sign may be considered an asset for the property owner when it comes to legal implications, other signs that attempt to intimidate or otherwise threaten (i.e. “Trespassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again.”, etc.) can and likely will be used against you in court.
In a real “SHTF” scenario, the laws and the courts won’t mean much. I agree on general principle about the sign, though. Folks tend to pick easy targets to rob.
PS – Some might argue that following an SHTF event, that the legal system as we know it may be tossed out the window. While there could be some merit to that argument, I’d advise proceeding with caution regardless.
It may be that things become more chaotic for a time, but eventually some rule of law (possibly martial or dictatorial) is likely to be re-established. When it is, you may find yourself brought before some sort of judge, jury, or tribunal that may not even be as objective as our current system. If it resulted in imprisonment, dismemberment, or death, where would that leave you or your loved ones?
That’s not to say you should hesitate for a moment to defend yourself under a legitimate imminent threat, but if you know you are within the current laws and statutes, it’s one less thing to worry about. You might even call it “being prepared”. And that’s something that we all, as preppers, aspire to.
Texas has the purple paint law, which can be used instead of No Trespassing signs.
Trespassing. How can I properly post my property?
I am deep Red in a sea of blue.. I am always taking note that even if justified its more likely than not that I would be charged and possibly convicted for protecting myself.. I have come to terms with it lol I will always do what is necessary to protect myself and innocents!
Use a naturpathic. My thyroid is no longer western medical. Look up the naturals for whatever you’re taking, find the plant, learn to grow and harvest.
red ant, you are a coward who feels safe hiding behind his computer. You don’t make any sense, try as you might to justify taking another persons stuff. How about a little hand to hand with me right now, parasite?
Wish I could. I would love to go one round with you,. that’s all it would take with you. I’ve been married for 32 yrs. got a lot of anger that I so truly truly would love to take it out on you.big time!!!!!!!!
but just like you hidding be hind your computer.Also.
Jon – sounds like you’ve been sucking on a bit too much lead paint in your cot.
I’m a grandma in the UK, and the only things I’m trying to do at present is build up some food storage, and grow veggies in my garden. We live in a fairly safe area, but if things got bad I know that people can change. We don’t generally own guns here, and my family is in law enforcement. I’m just doing what I can, and learning along the way.
red ant, I’ve boxed two world champions and was a better wrestler. I worked out twice today already, how about you. You are probably some fat punk living off Government checks. I’m not going to answer anymore of your stupid remarks, so ,f*** off, loser.
finly… go run it off.
what a joke you made your self out to be. LMAO @ you even harder…now
You just might be surprised.
Say I gave you a thumbs up. your ego seems to need it.
I’m a boxer and a wresler and I work out, that might inpress your fan club, but I laugh at you the more I think about how you probably act. Have some friends that are like you. they also have a sucky attitude. Think there bad asses. I laugh at them ALSO..
@Jon Galvin Please Jon. Try and save your anger for those that really deserve it. We’re ALL a bit stressed out lately with all the negative news that we’re constantly being bombarded with and all the distractions they keep throwing our way. Remember; shiny object in this direction. Take another path. This is exactly what the ruling elite are trying to accomplish. They WANT us at each other’s throats doing their job for them. On this page we’re all supposed to be of like mind. And to that end we need to work even harder to work together not against each other. If we as preppers can’t even work together here than what chance do the rest of the people have. Please try and weigh your words and the consequences they have. We’re all entitled to our own opinions but that doesn’t mean we need to insult each other. Especially here. Doesn’t take much to be kind and courteous to others. It’s very easy to vent our anger and frustration on our fellow man but in the end it’s just an exercise in futility and accomplishes less than nothing.
Jon, and apparently you have never been “hunted” by anyone that knew what they were doing, as proven by your presence on this blog bragging and blustering to appease your ego
I have none of the tell tale signs mentioned in the article. I’ve deliberately let my house look a bit run down just for this specific reason. As for gardens some people have made some good points about them. Instead of having an obvious structured garden why not “hide” your garden by growing your edibles amongst the weeds? So that it looks a bit overgrown and unkempt. Criminals are a bit lazy and always looking for the easy score. @red ant Don’t let others goad you into hasty actions or reactions. There are trolls everywhere. Don’t waste one second of your time on them.
Barking Seal, I haven’t intentionally allowed things to look run down but I now understand that it is in my favor that things are looking a bit faded. The car in my driveway is over 20 years old and has developed chipped paint. Anything that is in my front room of my house and visible, is lower end. The largest electrical device in that room is an old record player. Anything visible in the back yard via someone flying a drone, etc. is also very much lower end – a little old fashioned hippy looking back there.
A few years ago, I did purchase some prepper type things but I found that the younger generation in my family didn’t have them, so I gave a lot of things away.
I am all around uninteresting to looters.
@sagebrushlin Exactly Lin. Probably the smarter way to go for the upcoming global “downturn”. Crooks will always go for the easier score. Those that advertise their wealth and affluence are setting themselves up for a world of hurt. Young Lady with the Radiant Soul; I know you’ve probably been preparing for this moment for many years. Just remember to be practical and even if you don’t like guns you’ll need some way to defend yourself. I see nothing good in our collective futures except a general global societal collapse with all the attendant problems that it will bring with it. Even now we are seeing the dominos starting to fall one by one. A large number of countries are already experiencing dramatic problems. This is only going to accelerate. The less developed countries will be the first to fall. The IMF only has so much money. If they keep on printing trillions of dollars they’ll only hasten the collapse. The developed countries will be the last to fall but when it happens it will happen quickly. Remember; FOOD WATER GOLD SILVER GUNS AMMO and you’ll have a much better chance of surviving this. T’would be sad to never see you on these pages again. 😉
so happy to see your post, my old friend. from Canada.
I new God would watch over you. I prayed you would be okay.
Glad to see you back here.
@red ant Thank you very much for that red ant. So nice to also hear from you again. I’m still around. Not that easy to get rid of me. Just doing more lurking lately than posting. So many little things left to do before it all collapses. The world has gone even more crazy. I’m not so much worried about the collapse but the aftermath. Especially if they succeed in bringing in a central bank digital currency. Then that will be the end of the world as we know it and total control of the global population. Right now we’re watching a currency collapse and the end of one currency cycle and their attempt to bring about a new monetary system. The spectre of famine and want looms on the horizon for a large part of the world’s population. Remember; the latest I’ve heard, from numerous verifiable sources is that the world only has about 2 months worth of wheat/flour on hand. They’re not expecting a good wheat harvest this year and the Russian/Ukraine war isn’t helping. They keep telling us that between them, Russia and Ukraine produce 30% of the world’s wheat harvest. That’s patently false. I’ve run the numbers. It’s “only” about 15% but even that will put a huge dent in the world’s grain reserves. You’re a good man, red ant. Don’t let any of the trolls on this page get to you. There are jerks wherever you go. There’s no helping them. Best to ignore them. Don’t waste your time and energy on them. They are the negative forces of the world. We are the positive. Very glad to see that you’re still alive and kicking. I know you’re prepared for whatever may come our way. All the very best to you and your family. May the universal consciousness known to us as god keep and protect you and yours. All the very best to you my friend down in the great lone star state.
Armin, I was wondering about you and the dramatic events up in your area back in January. There are some seriously motivated and courageous people up there. When I mention giving things away, I gave away excess. I know that I am not going to use everything I had purchased. I am not adverse to firearms. In fact, just letting the bad guy know that I had one, most likely saved my life a couple of times when I was in my 20’s.
@sagebrushlin Yes, I agree Lin. There were some very brave people standing up to the mandates. But what good did it do us in the end. Our cowardly, commie, Chinese-loving (yes there is a video proving it) Liberal Prime Minister used the Emergencies Act to quell a peaceful protest when there really wasn’t a need to do so. Total overkill from our dictator in the making. Trudeau and Freeland are both members of the WEF. A very dangerous private organization run by that seemingly neo-Nazi *rick Schwab. Along with the WHO and Blackrock. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall at Davos. They all want to rule the world and Blackrock owns a good part of it right now. There are too many connections between Blackrock and the government and they’re all a conflict of interest. Pinball just recently did a video on it. Blew my mind how deep the corruption actually goes. I am so starting to hate Liberals with a vengeance on both sides of the border. I hope that SOB pays for what he did. I hope people remember what he did earlier this year and when the next federal election comes up I really hope they get so few votes they lose party status. It almost seems as if these days freedom and democracy have become more of a privilege rather than a right. And we don’t have a second amendment to fall back on. I believe the leader of the trucker rebellion is still in jail but I’m not sure. But to be fair the truckers made plenty of mistakes. For one thing the mandates weren’t a federal issue but rather a provincial one. So instead of protesting in Ottawa the truckers should have gone to Queen’s Park in Toronto and protested against Doug Ford. But it still may have ended up the same way. But at least now Trudeau has shown us his true colours and I hope people remember.
Armin, The way that the government cracked down on people in January, literally, even to the point of riding a horse over the old woman with a walker was beyond shocking. I am sure that many have injuries they will never fully recover from. Having the events at Queen’s Park might have been better but who would have expected that the government would become so evil and violent. I don’t understand how they could live with themselves after stealing people’s heating fuel when there were small children in the cold. At least, it is no longer a mystery as to how evil those in power have become. There was limited information down here on standard elitist news regarding events. I depended upon Rebel News for much of my information.
I have relatives on both sides of the border who had parents or grandparents who went through many dangerous events to escape soviet communism. The most tragic result is that these relatives will enthusiastically vote in the communists. The Bible speaks of people getting a “reprobate mind” and not being able to think clearly. Sadly, I see that effect in some of my own family. I now understand that having a blood relative, does not mean that everyone can be trusted during times of stress.
I very much appreciate you and everyone who posts on here as I have learned so much.
People will not remember, Armin, they are sheep, not people….
Prepper in Training. You speak as if you are the ultimate authority. In reality, you are nothing more than another ‘taker’. Somebody owns every square inch of this land. Just because somebody isn’t home at the moment to defend their property does not give you the right to help yourself to everything (because you failed to prepare yourself). Maybe respect the property of others, otherwise you may end up as pig s*** in less than 12 hours from the time you invaded their property.
in the mirror. I said you will find the problem with your self.
look every chance you can. you seem to need some humbling.
As a matter of fact, I AM the ultimate authority after God, in my realm. I do not plan on going to someone’s house/home and steal whatever I want, but if I am out of something that I need and I cannot find available life or signs of recent activity, then yes, I will scavenge what I can. This does not make me a thief any more than your posts makes you an intelligent being.If I find junk along the side of the road, and I think I can make use of it, I will take it. There is as much of a possibility of it belonging to someone that lost it off of their truck as there is that someone like you dumped it there.
You make some pretty bold and useless statements when you accuse someone of being a thief or opportunist. Abandonment of property generally implies that people either no longer want it, or can no longer access/afford it. Yes, that property may belong to someone else, but in survival/shtf situations, I am confident that someone is not going to leave their stash unprotected because of the possibility of looters.
Remove your head from your backside from time to time. You just may learn that YOU are not the ultimate authority. You think you can beat anyone up that says something you don’t like, and that makes you sound a whole lot like joe biden. Do you have dementia as well? I feel sorry for you, because I think you will be one of those standing on the sidelines on judgement day wondering what you did wrong.
Get a life, or get at least get a clue.
Damn Jon, cut down on the ‘roids…seriously, you got some issues dude. You come across as one of those dumbass Jethrows who’s fucking his sister while trying to make it through to the second chapter of ‘Spot and the Big Red Ball’.
That is all
Real popular gate sign, “there’s nothing here worth dying for”
Ma, an excellent choice of words.
I was in the Security Police in the USAF. Iwas c9mbat trained, doing LE AND SECURITY . I protected the Presidential Aircraft, and proficient in all types of firearms. Now if bad guys show up they won’t be able to leave like they came in.
Lol relax Francis the air force isn’t the army
AF security defends…Army seeks out and destroys.
as far as signs, if you already have them posted, leave them so you remain looking normal, if you don’t already have signs up, don’t post any if SHTF, it will be noticed, and the idea is to not attract unwanted attention.
I am gonna do all of the above, starting now! Ain’t gonna hide anything. I am tired of obfuscating, trying to recruit like minds to no avail, and hoping for the best…the best is not gonna happen…I say SCREW IT, bring it on….frickin people can kiss my REBEL BUTT…. MOLON LABE!!!!
That’s where I’m at. I’m tired of waiting for wrong to become right again. Screw it! Leave me and my family alone (as I leave YOU alone)……or DIE!
for livestock, consider breeding rabbits for meat. multiply easily, ready for slaughter within 2 to 3months for some rabbit breeds, feed on small amount of pellet (50 to 200 grams/day) and large amount of leaves/grass/hay which is readily available, can be hidden indoors and makes just a little tiny bit of sound.
That’s what they did in Britain during WW2 and it worked well.
arse: No, you can’t live off of wild rabbit. Tame rabbit is often fatty. niio
Can’t live off rabbit, probably survive longer eating that expensive feed you buy for ’em.
if I was down to very few options, I’ll eat rabbit before I eat rats, squirrels, or gophers, but pigeon and doves would be a prime target for the snares.
Wild Rabbit is fine, just be sure to eat the liver, heart, brains, & kidneys. Tame rabbits have more fat but keep in mind that organ meats have necessary vitamins and minerals one really needs in a bad situation..
Rabbits is a prime choice, but isn’t there a disorder that stems from that being the primary meat used??
I could swear there was, but am blanking on the name of it.
Basically, I remember that you must incorporate other sources of fat to balance Bugs out at mealtimes, such as fry or bake it in bacon grease or comparable stuff.
All in all, rabbits are the quietist source of meat my brain can think of, plus the pelt is useful for other things.
Wild rabbits have shin worms. We hunted rabbit all yr. but not during the hotter months of summer.
My dad said no rabbit at that time.
So we fished and hunted Deer and Turkey.
Love me some skillet cooked wild rabbit.
SSM: Tame rabbit is usually fatty enough. If you live off the wild animals, ten yeah, wild rabbit is lean and never hunt them in the heat. niio
I fully agree with all of this, and already practice the concepts.
On the other hand, if things go too far sideways, I fully plan to eat people!
Actually employing a few of the “Give Away” signs around my property, ill stand a better chance of having live, fresh meat actually coming to me. I won’t even have to leave the compound here and hunt, as food will walk right in here with me.
I’ve already considered the ethics of using baits to attract game, normally I’m against such things, but when one is hungry and starving, ethics tend to be pushed aside..
Yes, if food is on the table, and none of mine are going hungry, employing these concepts are indeed viable in keeping varmint away from your property.
Thanks for bringing this stuff up..
speed bump, sounds like an absolute last resort to me, but if you are serious about baiting in others to resort to cannibalism and other options were still available to you, and I became aware you were intentionally doing this, you would be judged as a vile threat to those I care about and would be exterminated as expeditiously as possible.
Keeps your prions healthy, until the kuru steps in.
Viet-vet: There should be plenty of dead for him, before rats and stray animals clean them up and then come for him. niio
God watch over all those that wear involved in the Texas school shooting.
I know that there is 21 new angles that are in Heaven with Jesus.
My ❤ weighs heavy at this time. So sad… I’m sorry for the loss of the children and the two teachers.
They are the true Hero’s in this. 🥀
No thanks to the cowards cops who wouldn’t do a thing to save kids but hey tased the parents and family who was ready to go in themselves. Pussys in blue
I don’t get why it happened the way it did.
This one will bring in a bunch of things that will be hard for all of us.
We can only depend on our own and be the men that our family’s deserve.
Is this the New Normal. If so then they can have it
It happened because cops have no duty but to themselves
You gotta give some credit. I’m pretty neutral with everyone, until they get up in my mug…or REALLY fuck up like those cops did.
If people thought everyone on here was like you, we’ll you know. To each their own I guess. I’m pretty sure if us 30 or so usual commenters met in real life, we’d all get along famously. Especially when scrotus gives the word to fuck us all over. I’d certainly have your backs, wouldn’t matter how different we think, we all want to survive…that’s commonality enuff fer me!
raven: You act like a spoiler.
Optimism is associated with higher cognitive abilities, study finds
I agree with that
Got to be some real peaces of DOG SHIT
You are the reason that this earth SUCKS.
so to y’all F#CK YOU AND YOR life.
I hope Y’ALL RECIVE the same back that gave a Thumbs down.
bunch of PUSSY’S TROLLS
What about the teacher who left the outside door propped open?
Meh pussy cops and shitty teachers its all good
Viet-vet: sounds like an accomplice. niio
Erick, good article. But, Arizona wants all homeowners and rental agents to go solar. There’s a good tax credit in it. The state, itself, is going solar as fast as possible.
I live 40 miles from a big store. Buying at tiendas (Mom and Pop stores) is to buy quality, it’s supporting home and friends, but also costs a lot more. A lot of folks own one or more chest freezers and buy canned stuff by the case. Guns and ammo are common and often in plain sight, except in the cities where they have to hide them.
Small livestock, poultry and rabbits, are pretty common in the cities, as well as the sticks. Homegrown fish, catfish and tilapia, are there, and the numbers growing. In any city here, the rural areas are easy to access, but!, it takes 58 acres to support one animal unit (a cow, 7 sheep, or 10 goats). Deer do not hang out waiting by the road to be shot.
Not a single No Trespassing sign. Nothing about bad dogs. A cactus hedge is growing well. Plenty of thorny mesquite in the garden and so on.
We’ve gone into debt to acquire some things, like a reliable truck, fruit trees, paid for extra water to keep them going. It costs a little extra to buy good local open pollinated seed, but the next generation is even better, better adapted to the locale. Much thanks, good article. niio
I have solar backup in KY but easy to take down and hide. However, great for charging computer and phone even now. I put my panels behind the house and they charge in less than 2 hours. keep the dog out there with them.
Solar panels draw unwanted attention unless they are portable for recharging small electronics or deep cycle batteries, but avoid roof top arrays.
solar doesn’t draw anything…. because unless your the idiots still living in the city …. which means your already dead.. Nobody really can see your solar unless you have it on the road.
X-spurt, I personally own a drone with camera and rechargeable batteries my solar chargers easily handle that can be used for advanced scouting if I want a short-range aerial view. well Duh! but then again you are the infamous “Charlie Foxtrot” X-spurt., so what would someone like me be doing pointing out the flaws in your “advice”? Keeping it Real, that’s what!
Viet-vet: Good point, but in Arizona it’s so common it won’t be noticed. Now, Wisconsin, yeah. niio
Claude Davis, What a blessing you are! By allowing various types of comments on this forum, we all learn what personalities are out there plus a bundles of great information.
These are the most comments, mainly…I can’t stand the stupidy anymore.
Stop looking in the mirror.
looks like some cowardly Trolls have figured out how to manipulate the “thumbs down” aspect, which is quite an easy thing to do actually, but if they are so insecure that this is how they try to convince themselves they have any value, well then “Bless their heart” for being foolishly ignorant.
It could be your not always right
X-spurt, you really are an idiot. I posted that I have several herbs that wintered over, and I will try growing some of the medicinal herbs and got ten thumbs down, so tell me in your self-delusional fanaticism how posting that I grow herbs and want to add more to them is wrong? This is why you are such a pariah on every blog you have been posting on for way too many years, always bitching, insulting, and lying about other posters, and then you finally decide to post a dozen or so rational posts and think that makes up for your years of intentionally antagonizing everyone else? Yup, you really are an ignorant fool, not trustworthy at all, and your ex-wife (Dale?) finally wised up and left your sorry ass.
My ex wife .. well turns out after we got married we found out we were related. Long lost brother and sisters so it was a bit shocking 😕.
Well that wasn’t below the belt or anything.
Mike, I meant it to be, after many, many years of the “Charlie Foxtrot” X-spurt antagonizing and lying about other posters, he does not deserve any courtesy or consideration. He is reaping what he has sown. Do some searching on these and several other Prepper blogs and you will see he has a long history of being a pariah.
Seems that the squabble here is like kids on the playground trying to be the most important one there. Lot’s of bold, rash statements with no substance. Grow up. Jon, I agree with you regarding stealing what belongs to others. We have no right to their stuff. However, if the stuff is abandonded as I understand is Red’s position, then it becomes a salvage operation of unclaimed goods. You are both right, just not communicating. When SHTF, there will be chaos and minimal governmental order. Bullies will do what they have always done best, take what they want by overwhelming power. The only counter to a bully is to resist strenuously until they give up and move on to someone easier to intimidate. There will be a period where we will be on our own or at best working with like minded folks to take care of our own family, goods, rights. Sadly, I fear the bullies we’ll have to contend with will include our own government. This is the reason for the 2nd A. Preppers are a minority and will have strength only by working together. Fight amoung ourselves is self defeating and plays right into the hands of those that would strip us of the fruit of our efforts in the name of the larger good. I’m new to all of this, so I may be speaking beyond my understanding. However, I encourage everyone to give each other grace to say what they think without harsh criticism. I look forward to learning from you more experienced folks here.
🤣…I suggest growing thicker skin or leaving. There is plenty of good info/comments here, learn to skim over if you don’t like it. If it gets bad enough, I’m sure the administrator will take action.
Newby: I live in a rural/village area. We had some problems with bikers racing up and down the streets waking up little kids and bugging the old folks. Indian country Number 1 rule is, you do not scare little kids or bug the elderly. A neighbor, a hottie older Apache granny had enough and ‘tapped’ the back of a biker roaring up the road with a .22 He got the message and we had a quiet summer. niio
If everyone in SHTF is shoot first…how would you recommend approaching a homestead or community when you have no malicious intent? A white flag? This when you have considerable skills, items of trade, firepower…Most would not want to be put into slavery just to prove their good.
Jon, always approach very cautiously, and only after observing enough to feel it is worthwhile to make the attempt. I recommend you always have people with high powered rifles and the knowledge, judgement, and ability to use them properly, hidden out of sight at several different angles of the area you are approaching, with hand signals agreed upon in advance, just in case they need to make decisions themselves, and/or depend on your signals. This takes a lot of trust and familiarity of everyone involved.