The First Counties To Be Relieved By The Government After SHTF

Fergus Mason
By Fergus Mason May 29, 2017 10:26

The First Counties To Be Relieved By The Government After SHTF

When Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans it was one of the worst natural disasters in modern US history. At least 1,200 people – maybe as high as 1,800 – died across the southeastern USA, and property damage totaled more than $108 billion dollars.

One reason the death toll was so high is that FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, made a real mess of their response. The agency’s director was one of the most high-profile officials who resigned in the aftermath of Katrina. Since then FEMA has supposedly cleaned its act up and should be able to respond effectively to any future disasters. But what does that mean for you?

In theory at least, if there’s an isolated disaster in one part of the USA – something like another hurricane – FEMA should be able to respond effectively. Their response would probably include pre-disaster programs, like evacuation plans or setting up temporary shelters for anyone who’s left homeless. Once a disaster has happened they can coordinate emergency search and rescue, medical and support teams. They can bring in federal resources and also work with state agencies to make sure help is going where it’s needed.

What if it’s a national disaster, though? Another of FEMA’s functions is to help stabilize the USA after a catastrophe that affects the whole country. That could be a freak climate event, an EMP or anything else all the way up to a major nuclear attack. Can FEMA rescue people, give them medical treatment and find them housing on a national scale?

On paper at least, the answer is yes. After all, they can call on a lot of federal resources. But even then, they’re not going to be able to help the whole country at once. They’ll be prioritizing some areas, doing what they can there then moving on to somewhere else.

The first priority for FEMA is going to be big cities, with Washington, D.C. probably at the top of the list. Prioritizing D.C. looks a lot like self-interest, but in this case it probably isn’t. In a really major disaster the leaders of the government will have evacuated anyway, and they’ll be working from emergency bunkers. Getting the capital sorted out will let the rest of the government start rebuilding itself, though, and even if most of us usually wish the government would leave us alone, it’s going to be important if the entire USA needs rebuilt.

Once D.C. is under control the next priority will be the big three urban areas – New York City, Los Angeles and Chicago. There are a couple of reasons for this and the first one is simple; there are lots of people there and they’re going to be in a bad way. Even the power going out for a couple of days will reduce a big city to chaos; an EMP, or an actual nuclear strike, would leave millions of people helpless and unable to survive for long on their own.

Cities are fragile, especially when things go seriously wrong. Without urgent rescue operations they’d quickly collapse into anarchy as people fought for the limited resources available. Unburied corpses and contaminated water would spark epidemics. Fires burning out of control would cause death and destruction on a huge scale. If a Russian SS-25 ICBN detonated above Manhattan Island it would kill about 1.5 million New Yorkers in less than a minute. That’s bad enough, but without an immediate and massive FEMA response at least another four million, including almost all the three million injured by the blast, would be dead within a couple of weeks. They’d just starve, dehydrate, burn, or get sick and die.

Another reason to prioritize the cities is that bringing them under control will help get the government running again and make a start at rebuilding the economy. A major national catastrophe or attack would cause huge damage to the USA, but if the cities can be stabilized the country can rebuild a lot more quickly.

Here are the likely priorities:

  1. Washington, D.C. – Government
  2. New York City – Largest US population center
  3. Los Angeles – Second largest population center
  4. Chicago – Major population center, finance, manufacturing
  5. Houston – Major population center, oil industry
  6. Dallas – Population center, oil industry
  7. Philadelphia – Population center, manufacturing, oil refining
  8. San Diego – Population center, military
  9. Phoenix – Population center, food processing
  10. San Francisco – Tech industries

Small towns aren’t anywhere near as vulnerable as a big city is. Losing the power would be bad, but not disastrous – the infrastructure’s usually simpler and not as automated. The population is less dense, which reduces the risk of disease, and it’s generally easier to get food and water. In a nuclear war small towns are also a lot less likely to be damaged by the strike, unless they’re near a strategic target. They’ll certainly suffer in the aftermath, but nowhere near as badly as the cities will, so in general they’re going to be a much lower priority for rescue efforts.

There are some exceptions to this, of course. Food supplies are going to be very important; millions of refugees from the cities will need to be fed, and the normal distribution networks will have collapsed. Expect areas that grow staples, like wheat and root vegetables, to be a lot higher up the list. Any town with major food-processing industries is also going to be a priority, and so are transport hubs. Unless these places get restored to normal as fast as possible, all other efforts are basically pointless. Even if FEMA saves the survivors from the major cities, they’ll all starve to death when winter hits. So, if you have a big food-canning plant down the road, expect rescue services to be on the scene very soon after the disaster. The government will want to get life back to something near enough normal that people are willing to go back to work.

On the other hand, if you live in a rural area and the big local crops are tobacco, cotton or anything else that can’t be shipped to the cities and eaten, you’re going to be on your own for a while. Part of that is hard-headed realism from the government; your area isn’t critical to rebuilding the nation and there aren’t all that many people in it, so you’re going to have to wait. Then again, another big part of it is sort of a compliment – the government know that people in rural areas won’t need help all that urgently. If you’re already pretty self-reliant you’re better placed to get through a crisis. You probably grow some of your own food, you know how to hunt and you might even have your own water supply and generator; you can take care of yourself for a while and let the feds get on with rescuing the city folk.

The exact details of what’s happened will affect these priorities, but in general they’re pretty reliable: The first targets for federal resources will be the big cities, especially on the coasts, and anywhere that produces vital resources. That will be followed by places that have other important industries, then smaller towns, with rural areas at the back of the line. In other words, the same way the government always sets its priorities.

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Fergus Mason
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  1. Don May 29, 14:50

    I notice the top 10 are sanctuary cities

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    • Jay May 29, 16:12

      Yep! I also noticed that most of them are liberal cities as well! You know…those democrats gotta protect their voter-base!

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    • Ben Leucking May 29, 17:17

      Phoenix is NOT as Sanctuary city, thank God. That would be Tucson, where liberal democrats run the show. For now…

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      • MarcusG May 30, 05:53

        Oh, yes Phoenix is a sanctuary city. There are plenty of liberal democrats running around Phoenix. Thankfully, I live on the outskirts of far east Mesa where the population is more pragmatic and much more conservative. Hence, a lot of them are prepped and prepared. We’ll do alright out there, Phoenix itself would have a rough time of it.

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    • Darion May 29, 19:00

      I cannot believe that they would support the terrorist for some of the ARE sanctuary cities. Still, they are on the top for they are the most important cities.

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    • bobthemoron May 29, 19:38

      These cities will be in chaos in 10 days or less. The Democrats will be murdering each other for a couple of slices of bread. The government cannot get enough aid into these places fast enough to prevent

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    • Older prepper May 29, 20:09

      Don, the very city’s that NEED TO BE DESTROYED.
      Why should we save the “problems” first? Let them go. No I am not a liberal. common sense.

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    • DARIUS MEDEA May 31, 10:25

      Yeah, shameful, isn’t it?

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  2. Anne May 29, 14:54

    The New Orleans/Louisiana mess wasn’t FEMA’s fault. FEMA shouldn’t be responsible for setting up local plans – that’s the responsibility of governors and mayors. As an example, FEMA at one point delivered a truckload of water. They had expected Louisiana government teams to be ready to distribute it. There was nobody. So they went ahead and distributed it. This is another case of pushing state and local responsibility off onto the federal government and it’s a bad idea.

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    • left coast chuck May 29, 15:51

      One year after Katrina we were on a tour group that included New Orleans. We got an earful from average citizens about government failure at all levels. As is my standard practice when visiting a new city, I got on the trolley one evening and rode to the end of the line and back. Soon the trolley was empty and the driver asked me where I was going. I told him what I was going and he gave me a tour. He was a transplant from New York but had lived in the New Orleans area for more than 30 years. I got an in-depth tour of New Orleans that no tour guide could ever give. The failure in New Orleans was at all levels of government from the mayor all the way up to “Brownie” who was doing a “hellova job.” What amazed me was that the people of New Orleans re-elected the mayor who was a roadblock to recovery from the very start. They deserve what to today remains of the destruction. I won’t detail the litany of failures and just plainobstructionism due to political parties. And it wasn’t just the trolley operator, it was from everyone we came in contact with. To list everything would probably use up all your ram. However, Anne, I have to disagree. FEMA and the Army Corps of Engineers need to shoulder a considerable amount of opprobrium for their failures in Katrina. The mayor of New Orleans and the governor of Louisiana also need to share in that opprobrium. Each failed in areas that were his or her specific responsibility.

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      • Anne May 29, 16:18

        Chuck, I can’t dispute that there were failures during and after Katrina at all levels. I have relatives in New Orleans and am also familiar with the totally illegal actions by the local police to confiscate legal firearms, to the point where there were soldiers protecting some of the gun owners from the local police. Most of the failures that I know of were local or state. For instance, the governor calling the president and, when asked what she needed, she said, “I need everything.” Really? Arctic tents? She didn’t have her list ready. I’m just so leery of the federal government that I don’t want feds doing anything that could be done locally.

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        • left coast chuck May 29, 17:47

          Anne, as Ronald Reagan once said, “The scariest words in the English language, ‘I’m from the government. I’m here to help you.'”

          In my opinion, those words apply to all forms of government, not just the feds.

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      • Yayapapadoc May 29, 20:24

        Actually that mayor that got elected was the best choice and not a roadblock. I was here all through the event. And after. Bush liked Mayor Ray Nagin (Democrats did not, calling him Ray Reagan, until he ran for reelection and played the race card. They loved him then. Democrat Gov. Blanco was the problem and FEMA.

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        • left coast chuck May 29, 22:37

          Well, if Ray Nagin was the best choice, that doesn’t say very much for the mayoral candidates in the election following Katrina. Not hard to believe. I can’t count the number of times I have had to vote for the least worst candidate in the election.

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      • CantBePCAnymore May 30, 17:11

        The locals are going to complain because is WAS a mess, but did you know that FEMA can only respond if the city and state lets them? The idiot mayor of NO didn’t do anything to help the people of NO. Instead of helping evacuate the city – it’s not like no one knew Katrina was coming – he let the buses sit and get destroyed. Then he refused federal help. The governor couldn’t make the city ask for help because there’s some dumb law that makes NO “special” and separate from state laws. FEMA could ONLY respond once they were permitted to come in.

        The people of NO deserved what they got because they turned around and re-elected the moron who did so little to help the people to begin with.

        Of the people that were relocated after the fact, many were societal leaches. They were given money to get themselves set up in their new cities. How did many of them use that money? Bought themselves toys and fancy jewelry. When asked if they were looking for work, the response was I didn’t work in NO, why would I work here?

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      • DARIUS MEDEA May 31, 10:27

        Good point, but part of the problem was with the local/state government who told FEMA that they didn’t need any help, if I remember the events correctly.

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    • Older prepper May 29, 20:14

      Anne, it was the mayor of that city who raped the coffers and later was arrested. He did not ASK for federal help. CHANGE OF COMMAND. IT WAS TOTALLY ON THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF NEW ORLEANS. DEMOCRATS IN CHARGE. i HAVE INFO FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVED THROUGH IT. People were asked to vacate,,they didn’t want to and had hurricane party’s instead.

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      • Yayapapadoc May 29, 20:27

        Mandatory evacuation. It was a Cat 5 when we evacuated and before it hit La. shores and dropped to Cat 3. Mayor wnet to jail for a bribe. He did raid anything. Get your facts straight.

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        • Older prepper May 29, 20:38

          yayapaapdoc; who are you talking too, me? RE-read my post, you are agreeing with me. I said,,,,THE PEOPLE DID NOT WANT TO EVACUATE AND MOST HAD HURRICANE PARTY’S. I guess it depends what PART of New Orleans one lived in. A lot of LOOTING, DESTRUCTION BY YOUR PEOPLE. NO, NOT JUST BRIBE.Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:13:29 -0500
          NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Former New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin has been indicted on 21 corruption charges including wire fraud, bribery and money laundering.
          The charges announced Friday come from a City Hall corruption investigation that already has resulted in guilty pleas by two former city officials and two businessmen.
          The counts include wire fraud, bribery, money laundering, filing false tax returns and conspiracy.

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      • Anne May 29, 20:34

        Older prepper, should you happen to have a problem with blood pressure that’s too low, I can recommend a book that will fix it. It’s called “The Great New Orleans Gun Grab: Descent into Anarchy” by Gordon Hutchinson and Todd Masson. It confirms what you said in the most infuriating detail. And the worst of it is that the police wouldn’t/couldn’t do anything about the criminals who were breaking in to houses, but they worked hard to take away what a homeowner might use to defend himself. The book does show, however, what a group of organized people could do to establish order in their own little location.

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      • JM63 May 31, 01:42

        The plural of party is parties, not party’s, which is a possessive.

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    • Procius June 1, 04:51

      You are right, but what do you expect. The big O is a typical liberal run city. The only thing they plan for is to get reelected and a steady cash flow to their persoonal bank account

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  3. Ranger X May 29, 15:51

    The fact is the good folks at FEMA have families too! Maybe if its a huge problem they GO AWOL. Just like New Orleans Police and Fire did during 2005 Katrina. But hey it’s all good, depopulizing America would help to reduce the entitlement train wreck headed down the tracks. I’m surprised it has not occurred already?

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    • Older prepper May 29, 20:44

      Ranger X, Correct, why are people depending on OTHER PEOPLE,,,what are they doing for themselves? They looted and caused MORE DESTRUCTION,heartache, then behave like civilized people in New Orleans. Then ‘they’ were given debit cards of $2,000 each and most used it for strip joints, booze, etc. Sorry, I cannot feel sorry for people like that.

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      • DARIUS MEDEA May 31, 10:32

        Interesting that while the people in La. were complaining and waiting for help from FEMA, the people in Mississippi and other areas, were getting off their backsides, helping one another and beginning the re-build of their area.

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  4. left coast chuck May 29, 16:13

    While I have no argument with Mr. Mason’s assessment. The real question is what kind of “rescue” facilities will be established. We all know that the great white father in washinton (lower case deliberate) has a “one size fits all” mentality. So we will see the same facilities in New York that we see in Los Angeles. For the folks in New York, you had better hope that you don’t get the Los Angeles plan in January. For the folks in Los Angeles, you will wonder what you are supposed to do with mittens and thermal underwear when the outside temperature is 75° in January. Then there is the question of food. We all know that the bulk of food and water will go to the D.C. politicians and top bureaucrats. With food in short supply, what do you suppose the folks depending upon the largesse of FEMA will be getting? I suspect that it will closely resemble what the guests of Auschwitz, Buchenwald or the gulags enjoyed. And as we learned from our German friends, “Arbeit Mach Frei” so there will be the work details. How that will be handled is anyone’s guess but it should be a fun stay. Rather than depending upon the tender mercies of FEMA and Homeland Security, I suggest now is a good time to start taking not a cruise ship vacation or a visit to one of Disney Inc’s resort happy towns, but vacations in a small town in middle America where you make friends and investigate reasonable property so that if the end of the world does happen, you won’t be some stranger wandering into town depending upon the good will of the residents of that town who may not be all that welcoming to “guests”.

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    • Older prepper May 29, 20:24

      Chuck.. do not disrespect my president, and you are wrong. the great half black president of 8 years got us INTO THIS MESS.. You are so smart, in so many cases, what are you missing here? You ARE WRONG. I’ve kept up in politics,,stop listening to all the left, lying media. TURN IT OFF. THERE IS NO NEWS ANYMORE, all left propaganda. Four months and you think MY PRESIDENT IS THE PROBLEM? WAKE UP. HE put a ban on refugees to stop the terrorists and muslim judge cancelled that. Who had open borders, for 8 years? Who brought in refugees and paid churches 8K per person to infiltrate and conquer us? NOT MY PRESIDENT. PHTTTTTTTTTT.

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    • Anne May 29, 20:54

      When you look at the functions Mr. Mason lists, of doing pre-disaster planning, then coordinating activities, setting up search and rescue, etc. These to my mind are all STATE functions, for which the state will be enlisting local resources and expertise. Otherwise, you’re going to be left with the one-size-fits-all, which is about all the federal government can do. It’s up to the state to determine whether you need snow tents or tarps for shade and ask for it.

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    • Wannabe May 29, 23:13

      I am taking a cruise this summer. Looking forward to it.

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  5. RAKSR06 May 29, 16:16

    Who knows when it may happen?

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  6. Meathead May 29, 17:13

    Norfolk, Virginia is not on the list and it IS a major Naval base. How about the submarine bases in Connecticut and Georgia?
    I would look for major military installations to be high on the list although they probably have already stored what they perceive they will need.

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    • dp May 29, 20:07

      Meathead,

      military bases are not on the list because they are supposed to be self sufficient, and shouldn’t need FEMA.

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  7. winterborn May 29, 17:22

    FEMA cannot enter until the state govenor makes a request, which was cruial to passage of th act that created the ageny, as statesfeared them! The govenor of La. ould not be disturbe from her nap when they tried to call her to ask if they were needed! On top of that the city and parish officials did nothing at all, no evacuations, no protecting equipment or infrastructure, nothing! Fema was the only group to follow standing protocols, but they and the National leadership were blamed for everything! A discusting falsification of the “News”!!!

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    • Older prepper May 29, 20:29

      winterborn; correct. I love it when people know their stuff! high five.! There were school buses for evacuations, most of the people did not want to go, they had HURRICANE party’s instead. IT is on all the people. Mayor raped the city.

      Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:13:29 -0500
      NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Former New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin has been indicted on 21 corruption charges including wire fraud, bribery and money laundering.
      The charges announced Friday come from a City Hall corruption investigation that already has resulted in guilty pleas by two former city officials and two businessmen.
      The counts include wire fraud, bribery, money laundering, filing false tax returns and conspiracy.

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  8. Ben Leucking May 29, 17:50

    According to the FEMA web site, there are only 10,000 full time employees in the agency. They are primarily desk jockeys, interested more in justifying their existence and authority than anything else.

    I am grateful that I live in a remote, rural area of the country. The last thing I would expect or want to see would be someone from FEMA or any other federal agency.

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  9. Ngu May 29, 19:27

    Everything written here so far makes sense to me. Just want to add from my experience – I’m a 70 something farm boy with a broad education and DIY/conservative upbringing that has a small vegetable garden, gas generator and solar power. I firmly believe that the ability to make it on your own coupled with the social skills to band together / organize with other available / good people ( who you may or may not know ) are the keys to survivability, along with a location away from vulnerable areas.

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    • Wannabe May 29, 22:36

      I agree. Have some kind of community to band with whether it be extended family members or like minded neighbors. Pool resources and be willing to share, trade, barter or whatever is agreed upon. Someone can offer security, another medical expertise, another food preparation, etc. Everyone can and should have something to offer for the long term scenario.

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  10. Yayapapadoc May 29, 20:30

    This post makes sense. Has nothing to do with politics per se. Largest cities have the most people. Leaders will want to to save the areas with the most people and the most strategic advantage (ports, refineries, food, etc.) then move to areas with less people and so on and so forth.

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  11. Dactylographer May 29, 20:33

    Two points. We in Florida (at least public safety community) have long understood the first 4 days post hurricane we are on our own. Federal response is long term aid; immediate response falls to locals. In Katrina, a typical entitlement attitude by local officials doomed New Orleans. Second, while I agree smaller communities are less reliant on cyber technology, overall, America is highly dependent on its electronics. Even as mundane an item as a tractor is electronically controlled these days. Depending on the nature of a disaster, everywhere may be significantly affected by the loss of electrons…

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  12. Rocky May 29, 20:48

    Notice many of these cities are near a nuclear power plant. This could get very bad, very quick without water or the means to pump it.

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    • Yayapapadoc May 29, 22:46

      They will safely shut down and remain that way without significant effort and brain power to restart then

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      • JustAnAverageNuclearEngineerJoe May 30, 18:21

        In addition to cooling the steam, nuclear power plants also use water in a way that no other plant does: to keep the reactor core and used fuel rods cool. To avoid potentially catastrophic failure, these systems need to be kept running at all times, even when the plant is closed for refueling.
        That means that in a disaster crisis, (even so power plants produce only 20% of the electricity in the country) you are looking a the most dangerous post disaster problem here.
        Without water to keep the core and the rods cool, you are looking at a nuclear meltdown.
        In a crisis there is no a shutting the reactor down option, but most people are to stupid to even realize this

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  13. Wannabe May 29, 22:08

    Whew! A lot of heated discussions going on here. Many comments on this article only reinforces the need to prep and not be caught with your pants down.

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  14. Fred VonFirstenberg May 29, 22:21

    “One reason the death toll was so high is that FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, made a real mess of their response.”

    America has become a nanny state. People have earned a learned behavior that someone else is responsible for them and someone else will take care of them.

    Those affected by the hurricane were given plenty of warning to get out. They chose to stay for a myriad of reasons, the most likely was their I.Q. was below that of a broken toilet seat.

    I’m not a strong supporter of the federal government in that the entity has it’s business too deep in mine. That said, the strength and responsibilities of the several states lay with the states and the local government.

    It is those entities who failed, if one insists on pointing fingers.

    Am I the only one who questions why this region of our nation was so grossly incompetent in preparing for and then fixing their own problems?

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  15. Wannabe May 29, 22:30

    when federal entities show up in rural areas it won’t be to help but to confiscate what you’re u have to give to the bigger populated areas because they have run out of resources. Don’t forget the presidential executive orders that each consecutive president has built on since Kennedy. It started with the threat of nuclear war and has evolved into terrorist attacks and or natural disasters. What you have can be confiscated if sitting president gives the thumbs up. All stock piled food stuffs, water, supplies, medicine, ammo, anything they think will help the greater good. FEMA redistributes it under Marshall law.

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  16. left coast chuck May 29, 22:47

    For everybody who read this list, it is martial law (no caps). It comes from martial meaning military law. Under martial law, some military officer will be appointed by the Prez to be the head over a certain geographical area or political area. The law will be what that military officer says it is. Violations of his rules will be punished by military tribunals, guided by, but necessarily ruled by the Uniform Code of Military Justice. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights will be suspended. The right of Habeas Corpus will be suspended as it has been starting with Good Ole Abe Lincoln during the War of Secession. The rules promulgated under martial law will be enforced by U.S. armed forces at rifle point. I always joke that Marshall Law is a law enforcement officer up in the panhandle of Iowa.

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    • Wannabe May 29, 22:57

      Correct, the shadow government

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    • Ranger X May 30, 05:50

      @Left Coast Chuck

      Chuck that sounds reasonable until you add up the national guard, regular army, and marine Corp personnel that could respond to a martial law order imposed by executive order 13603. At best, with 321 million citizens, 600 million privately owned firearms and over 5 million combat vets, Martial Law would MAYBE? Cover half the most densely populated cities in the U.S. The other areas would simply be a Free for All. But if they come to my town of 5000, were going to LIGHT EM UP BIGLY..

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  17. left coast chuck May 29, 22:49

    panhandle of Idaho. Last time I checked Iowa didn’t have a panhandle.

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  18. BO May 30, 15:35

    I’m grateful and highly thankful my location is no where near any of the places where first responders will be sent. Everyone who isn’t a Liberal tool for the Government would probably agree with this. As proof, just follow anything the government has control of. They invent ways to screw things up with their ineptness.

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  19. Illini Warrior May 30, 19:33

    Not taken into consideration is transportation – Chicago would be opened up as a priority for ground, rail and air transportation …. there’s similiar cities not on the list that would also be given that same priority – FED EX cargo terminals would be pressed into emergency use and they are all located in the mid-sized cities like Nashville and Indianapolis ….

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  20. JB June 1, 20:31

    Philadelphia??? Oil refinery???? Pretty sure all of the infrastructure connecting Brotherly Love to the oil fields will be severed.

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    • left coast chuck June 4, 02:30

      JB, you are correct. It won’t matter much if your motor vehicle runs after an EMP. With refineries shut down, if the government has any vehicles running, any POL products will be seized by the government for its vehicles. Your ’72 Chevy dually may run but not for long if you can’t find gas anywhere. Even diesel will be non-existent. I suspect that even known privately stored POL will be seized under martial law. The only safe POL products will be those stored inside of buildings, but if you are tooling down the road in your merry Oldsmobile, you are going to stand out like a sore thumb when everyone else is riding a bicycle or using shank’s mare. The next thing you know the goons in the ninja outfits will be swarming around you like flies on you know what.

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  21. Bob June 6, 02:24

    FEMA can not act without the request from the governor which Bush personally called and requested action. She delayed and that was the start of the problem. FEMA was delayed because it took days for local and state government to clear roads and streets of fallen trees and downed power lines as fall North as Jackson, Miss, over 180 mile north.

    The Northshore was different, Parish and City LEOs were on constant patrol and there was no looting no gun confiscation and relative calm in the face of the disaster.

    FEMA did great work in clearing debris and removing material placed at the curb from gutted house.

    The worst storm damage was not New Orleans it was the Mississippi coast which was devastated.

    First hand experience my house had four feet of water and led me to become a prepper.

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  22. Ben Leucking August 4, 23:07

    Since the premise of this article is a large scale nuclear attack and: ” If a Russian SS-25 ICBN detonated above Manhattan Island it would kill about 1.5 million New Yorkers in less than a minute. …but without an immediate and massive FEMA response at least another four million, including almost all the three million injured by the blast, would be dead within a couple of weeks.”

    Where is FEMA going to pull in enough trained resources to deal with 4 million people in a short enough time to be effective, especially considering that 3 million of them will already be injured and exposed to radiation? Is FEMA going to have that many qualified resources who are willing to walk into a high radiation zone? Are these FEMA experts going to carry people out on their backs? Does FEMA even have enough radiation suits for their workers? I seriously doubt that. One documentation source states that there are fewer than 3000 full time employees in FEMA.

    Bottom line: You are on your own, whether it is a nuclear strike, EMP or other nationwide catastrophe. The last person I want to see will be someone claiming to be from FEMA. In my view, they will be approaching my property to forcefully take what I have. Good luck with that.

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