30 Supplies for Pandemic Survival

James Walton
By James Walton February 14, 2020 01:29

30 Supplies for Pandemic Survival

Editor’s note: This article was originally published in 2017. This is an updated version of the article, given the recent Coronavirus outbreak, which keeps spreading almost all over the world.

When the experts can’t agree, it’s clear that there’s a problem. When they can’t agree about something as deadly as the coronavirus, we’re all in danger. Yet that’s the very situation we face. Top experts are delivering varied prognostications about the killer virus, ranging all the way from “less serious than the flu” to “we’re only seeing the tip of the iceberg”.

In all fairness to those experts, they really haven’t had much time to study this new disease. Many of those top experts are scrambling wildly to understand the virus, what parameters it can survive under and how it spreads. That’s usually the work of years and they’ve only had a few weeks to work at it.

Nevertheless, that lack of information just makes the coronavirus more dangerous to the rest of us. Without accurate information, we have to assume the worst, just like the doctors who are studying it do. That means a virus which is transmitted by “air” (actually by aerosol – droplets expelled from coughs and sneezes) and has a high mortality rate.

Related: How To Make Tea Tree Oil To Treat Infections

As of this writing, the coronavirus pandemic is still marching around the globe, with a total of over 60,000 confirmed cases in 28 countries. Of the 52,793 current active cases, only 15% (8,117) are considered serious or critical. But the more telling number is the closed cases, of which there are 7,604 individual people; 6,235 of them recovered and were discharged from the hospital and 1,369 resulted in the patient dying.

Officially, the fatality rate of coronavirus is listed at a meager 2%. But that figure is known to be incorrect. The problem is, it’s too early to make an actual determination. If we divide the number of deaths to date, by the total resolved cases, we get a mortality rate of 18%; but that’s not accurate either. Typically, the mortality rate of a pandemic is higher in the earlier days, with the survivor rate increasing towards the end.

But here’s the really scary statistic: the transmission rate is listed as a 3, with different studies giving answers anywhere from 1.4 and 4.0. If that number was less than 1, we could count on the epidemic burning itself out. But the higher the number, the more it will take to cause it to burn out.

Even if we take the best case figure, from the various studies, this pandemic is not going to burn out on its own. Something is going to have to happen, to make that happen, the question is what. And while we’re at it, what do we need to do in order to protect ourselves and our families? The world is an open book in terms of transportation, economy and immigration. This also means it’s open to disease as well.

There can be an overwhelming number of items to consider when preparing for a pandemic. This is particularly true for those who have little medical knowledge. It may all seem foreign. To combat this confusion, I thought it necessary that we break up our preps into three very distinct categories.

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Treating a Pandemic Within the Home

  1. Plastic Sheeting is one of the most important items to have an abundance of. It can do things as simple as separate a few rooms to becoming a way to safely transport those who have died from the pandemic. The sheeting can also be used to cover windows and doors, if the pandemic gets out of hand. Have at least 200’ for all your needs.
  2. Disposable Gloves
  3. Disposable Foot Protection
  4. Disposable Aprons
  5. N95 Respirator Masks
  6. Face Shields or eye protection
  7. Tyvek Disposable Coveralls offer great body protection.
  8. Thermometers
  9. Fever Reducer
  10. Congestion Meds
  11. Antidiarrheal
  12. Throat Lozenge
  13. Inflammation Reducer
  14. Both Crystalline Vitamin C and cone flower (echinacea) will give you an option to boost the immune system. These two are critical in assuring your ability to stave off the disease, as well as fight it off once it’s attacking you.
  15. Echinacea
  16. Water Storage will be crucial and you will want to have at least 1.5 gallons per person per day. This water will play a massive role in the hydration of those who become sick.
  17. Water Filter
  18. Hydration Powder will add a little oomph to your water through things like electrolytes. You may not have an IV on hand, but that doesn’t mean you cannot stay hydrated properly.
  19. 100 Contractor Trash Bags
  20. 100 Indoor Trash Bags
  21. Cans with Tight Fitting Lids
  22. Plenty Antibacterial Soap for hand washing
  23. Quality Bodily Fluids Cleanup Kit (SUPER SORB)
  24. Hardback copy of serious medical volumes like The Lost Book of Herbal Remedies, The Survival Medicine Handbook, The Doomsday Book of Medicine.

Pandemic Protection Outside the Home

There are items that you can include for protection outside the home on a daily basis. These items would not be part of your EDC or everyday carry, but would be better suited in something like a get home bag.

  1. One of the most important pieces to have in that bag when prepping for a Pandemic is the N95 respirator. These are not very expensive and will protect your nose and throat from pathogens.
  2. You will also want some basic meds stored in your car as well. These meds should be for dealing with symptoms. Meds that will fight fever, diarrhea and something for sore throat would all be great options. A non-drowsy medication for congestion would also help.
  3. A basic trauma kit will also be vital. Remember that pathogens can enter your body through any damage in your skin or any orifice. If you are cut during a pandemic, it will be crucial that you clean and cover that cut ASAP.

Ideally, these items get you home as quickly as possible where you can survive a little more safely without the germs of the outside world.

Related: Top 30 Over-the-Counter Meds to Stockpile

Three Considerations for Pandemic Security

Unfortunately, even while people may be suffering from disease inside your home, you will still have others who want to get into your home to get what they need. This is particularly true for areas that are densely populated. They will be looking for meds, food and water. They will likely have people who are sick in their own lives. It’s a terrible thing to think about.

Still, if your family is safe within your home, the last thing you want is someone from the outside tracking germs inside. You must stay vigilant and try to stop threats at the doors or windows of your home. Being proactive in this method could save those in your home.

The Attack Drone is a dual-purpose technology that acts as eyes outside the home, as well as a deterrent for those who want to come on to your property. This battery powered quad-copter will not fly for very long, but you will only need to give chase once. Outfit your drone with some lightweight sharpened metals or even something that looks like a taser. This is an intimidation method more than anything else.

A Perimeter Alarm will help you understand when someone has ventured too close. This will allow you some lead time so the threat does not come barreling through the front door or bashing through a window. Be sure the alarm runs of simple batteries and have a plan to change them after a while.

Any threat must be dealt with as quickly as possible. You do not want an infected person touching you or getting into your home. This is not time for a wrestling match. Be sure you have an effective firearm that will stop someone, even in light body armor, from getting into your home.

Basic preps will still be necessary in conjunction with these preps, which are more specific to the pandemic. Always start with a great base that you can build on.

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  1. Crotalus Maxximus October 19, 14:13

    You forgot bleach.

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    • Adam January 4, 02:51

      Yes, I was thinking the same. Would chlorine work??

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      • Skeets February 15, 16:30

        When the shtf it is not what you have but what you can keep …..you all know what I mean. Besides all you need is bleach,a 1 gallon pot ,fire and a great knife to sterilize or procure whatever you need….

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    • Big jer February 14, 21:33

      Current ER disinfectant is Vinegar. Check with your local ER Housekeepers.

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      • Meena March 12, 05:12

        Vinegar does not kill the COVID-19 virus. You need bleach or other disinfectants to kill it.

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        • Rick March 15, 16:06

          9 mm or .226 AR will stop anyone carrying the virus therefore insuring sterilization and protecting your home from contamination.

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          • red March 15, 22:58

            Rick: And then they take you and put you in a holding cell with AIDS infected rapists. You know how those cops are. No sense of humor about some things 🙂

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          • Miss Kitty March 16, 02:20

            But unless you have pigs, you still have to get rid of the bodies somehow.

            I suppose you could mask and glove up, tie a rope around their feet and around the bumper of your car and drag the remains out of your neighborhood, but it could raise questions. Not to mention, the homeowners association would probably frown upon their bleeding on the sidewalks….

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            • red March 16, 13:54

              Miz Kitty: Coyotes, stray dogs, bobcats, and a real plus, such things make a excellent high-nitrogen fertilizer. That was how they caught someone in Pennsylvania, some years ago–finest roses in the state. If I remember, his great-grandfather did the same thing back in the 20s. yes, it is dem country. niio

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            • rt66paul April 5, 17:41

              If they are dead, they don’t bleed. They are somewhat messy, though.

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    • Angel February 25, 23:41

      Bleach has a shelf life of only 6 months.

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      • CBRNE March 13, 21:54

        Chlorine and Bleach will work just the same but be sure to follow the manufacture specifications on pack for the ratio of bleach to water as too much or too little could have no effect of certain biological hazards

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    • Ched Rich April 9, 02:29

      You could use vinegar vinegar it’s a good thing

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  2. Wannabe October 19, 14:52

    Yea sure, I will get on this list right away.

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  3. left coast chuck October 19, 14:54

    contestation |ˌkäntəˈstāSH(ə)n|
    noun formal
    the action or process of disputing or arguing.
    ORIGIN
    mid 16th century (in the sense ‘solemn appeal or protest’): from Latin contestatio(n-), from contestari ‘call upon to witness’ (see contest); reinforced by French contestation .

    I think what was meant was congestion medication.

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    • Green October 19, 23:57

      I thought constipation

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      • left coast chuck October 20, 02:58

        That’s exactly why word usage, punctuation and spelling are actually critical. Unfortunately, in the U.S., some folks for whatever reason decry correct grammar and castigate those who suggest that the incorrect word, incorrect spelling etc make understanding the text difficult.

        Constipation never occurred to me. But you are correct, it could be constipation. While constipation and congestion are both blockages of the body’s passages, they certainly are at vastly different parts of the body and take significantly different medications. Not bad to have remedies for both conditions, so we could add another to the list because both will make you miserable. Reminds me of a joke about a cat and castor oil but we have a mixed audience on this list and so I won’t post it here.

        I do have one that I can post here. Nurse goes into the patient’s room and find a suppository stuffed in his right nostril. She goes to the student nurse and asks why the suppository is in the patient’s nostril. The student nurse said “The prescription said, ‘PRN’. Doesn’t that mean “Place in right nostril”?

        For those who don’t know the medical abbreviations, “PRN” means “As needed.” If you don’t know the abbreviation, of course, the joke makes no sense at all.

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        • left coast chuck October 25, 01:53

          In case you are a late-comer to this article, number 10 originally was “contestation meds.” I see that it has been edited to what I guessed was meant. Green guessed it applied to the other end of the body. Both medications are important in an EOTW situation, but as noted, have significantly different applications.

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        • red February 14, 18:51

          Chuck: Word usage is something even neolib journalists worry about. You’re right to correct. thanks for catching it. Prior to socialist take-over of the school system, native born Americans read on a 12th grade average. Today, 5th grade and falling.

          the cat joke has to be better than stories I head about Patton, a sleeping dog, and lit cigarette. niio

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    • Miss Kitty February 16, 00:21

      Mucinex is good….I would also add duct tape to help seal windows and doors. It will stick better and longer than masking tape. Removing the sticky residue will be the least of our problems.

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  4. Wannabe October 19, 16:25

    Okay, after looking up each item on the interne, typing in almost verbatim of each said item, and coming with the realization that some items are repeated(but I went with the full list anyway), I came to a total of 2400.00 dollars. And I’m sure quantities vary from family to family, but I am incorporating a family of six. Tried to be frugal and practical on smaller things, but others I went a little on the high end because we are talking about safety and survival.

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    • joanofark06 October 19, 19:26

      Something I always got to tell my husband…a little at a time! We’re not talking about getting all this stuff at one time, that would be stupid, and as you showed, too expensive. Get one or two things a week, each week, or once a month, as you can afford them! NOW, BEFORE the…you know what…hits the fan! You wasted your time adding it all up…

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      • Wannabe October 19, 20:35

        Not a waste of time, I enjoy math Joan. I understand it is a slow process to acquire necessary preps. I just need about a hundred fifty thousand dollars to cover most things. You know, bug out house, bug out vehicle, solar generator, year supply of food…..

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      • midway October 20, 17:26

        Where is theplace to buy coverings, masks, coveralls eye cover, et al

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      • Anne February 15, 05:03

        I’ve been working on our supplies for over three years. Thanks to this list, I’ve added a few more items to my list. I agree, a little bit at a time. I thought we were good on thermometers, but I only had the battery powered ones and they have died.

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  5. Lucy October 19, 18:39

    Thanks for the article. We have lucked out that there has not already been another pandemic. We came breathtakingly close with the SARS epidemic of 2003. I HIGHLY recommend you get your hands on a small book, SARS in China, published by Stanford University Press in 2006. It vividly recounts chapter and verse of how SARS spread, and is shocking in depicting how close we came — and nearly went. We may actually owe our lives to the totalitarian regime in China at the time. Hard to swallow, but there it was.

    Madagascar is reporting and new (and scary) wave of plague right now. “Of the 684 cases reported as of 12 October, 474 were pneumonic plague, 156 bubonic and one septicaemic. A further 54 were unspecified.”(from the Manchester Guardian of a couple of days ago.)

    Check out the mortality rates for the three forms of plague. You won’t believe me.

    At the very least, stock up on N-95 masks. Pneumonia is no joke. I caught an ordinary strain of infectious pneumonia that was going around here in the mid-Atlantic to East coast states a couple of years ago, was unable to eat, barely able to drink water, and lost 20 pounds I didn’t have to lose. Could not have antibiotics. My paramedic/acupuncturist daughter pulled me out of the flames, much to everybody’s amazement, and I don’t recommend the disease. You may not have access to antibiotics or other medical care in a pandemic. Especially living away from others. The plus and the minus.

    For a gripping read about how the Second Pandemic of yersinia pestis, plague, “Black Death,” mutated and spread, check out John Kelly’s excellent The Great Mortality. I am reading it for the 4th time, still broadening my perspective. [I don’t normally read anything twice.] It will knock you off your chair.

    Btw, sitting on an airplane within 12 – 16 rows of someone with an airborne infection gives you a great opportunity to catch whatever they have. There’s a reason all those Japanese travelers wear masks. So who cares if you look strange on the airplane?

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    • left coast chuck October 20, 03:10

      Lucy: I found that book very interesting. There is another book on the Great Plagues whose title I cannot recall at this moment, but John Kelly’s book was superior in my view. I just started to re-read it too.

      The Japanese wear those masks not only to avoid getting some sickness, but if they are feeling under the weather they wear them to avoid giving what they have to others. Not just travelers wear them. If you go to Japan you will see people wearing them everywhere, especially during the flu season. It started because the trains are so crowded during rush hour people are really packed in like sardines. There are official pushers on the platform whose job it is to make sure everyone is packed into the train so the doors can close. They are on all the platforms during rush hours in Tokyo and other major cities. And they all wear masks. So the guy with the mask and the white gloves who is pushing you into the train isn’t trying to mug you. He is performing his job which is to make sure everyone is safely packed into the car with no body parts sticking out. He signals the conductor when everyone is packed in so the doors can close. The trains run on such tight schedules that no time can be wasted on some dawdler not getting fully into the car. Unlike the U.S. where the conductor sometimes can’t even tell you what day you will reach the next station, the Japanese train conductor can tell you to the second what time the train will stop in the next station and to the second what time it will start pulling out. The Japanese train will also stop at a precise location so as you are standing on the platform you can be standing at the exact spot where the doors will be located when the train stops. That’s so you don’t waste time having to move to the door location. A little off topic, but hopefully interesting.

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  6. Jarrett October 19, 19:57

    I’m curious about the attack drone. Is there a specialized attack drone that already exist?

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    • left coast chuck October 20, 03:24

      Yeah, it’s called the Predator, but I don’t know if you can afford it. Besides, the U.S. only sells them to foreign governments. They don’t sell them to U.S. citizens.

      If you read all the text, it is just any battery operated drone gussied up to look like it has a weapon on it. I suppose if one were skilled enough, one could devise a solenoid mechanism that would fire a single round or perhaps turn on its side and spill out a caustic solution from a container.
      It could also be rigged to drop an explosive device on somebody. Civilian drones can carry a payload, but the bigger the payload, the bigger the drone. The bigger the drone, the more bucks it takes to acquire one and the more skill it requires to operate it. Just a drone flying around with a video camera on it turned on before launch and turned off when it runs out of battery power or gets back to you is simple enough and could provide useful information. However, there are so many other things that are more important. Like food and water. Medicine. Shelter. all of those are more important to most of us than a drone. Of course, if you have an unlimited budget, there are all sorts of toys that would be fun to have. An armored up four wheel drive truck with puncture proof tires and firing ports would be a fun toy. A surplus MRAP would be a nifty toy and handy to have for the apocalypse. A police department is going to action off its supply of Thompson submachine guns this year or early next year. They are probably each going to go for over $100K. Fun to have in an apocalypse. I’ll have to pass. My Thompson fund is not quite up to $100K yet. In addition here in the PDRK we can’t have anything that looks that dangerous. It scares our masters.

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      • Hottuna7 February 14, 16:00

        Hello L.C.C. In response to your comment, “It could also be rigged to drop an explosive device on somebody.” I like to fish and we already have those. They are rigged to take a bait out far from shore and drop it.

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      • Ched Rich April 9, 13:56

        Thank you for your article it was a lot you put out there, add good information

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  7. Homesteader October 20, 03:57

    One item I didn’t see on the list was colloidal silver. I wouldn’t want to face a pandemic or anything else without it.

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    • DKtucson November 5, 17:42

      Colloidial silver is a farce–you can’t process heavy metals and all it will do is eventually turn your skin an ash-blue color-(Argyria)-only quacks will try to sell it to you

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      • Homesteader November 5, 19:21

        You have to consume LARGE quantities of colloidal silver to turn blue. Those people you’ve heard about turning blue usually drank a pint or more a day and it was typically poorly homemade with silver alloyed with other metals, like silver dimes or quarters. You also need very pure water to properly make it. Just putting some on your skin or consuming a teaspoon or less (which is all you need to consume per day) will not turn you blue.

        We make our own using .9999 silver wire, the purest available. We have used colloidal silver, both commercially-made and homemade, for many years for various things. In a lot of those cases, “modern medicine” only made the problems worse. Our doctors even approves of colloidal silver. Their nurses even use it.

        Believe what you want to about colloidal silver. It sounds like you only believe the bad information you’ve read and that you’ve never tried it yourself. That’s your prerogative.

        As for me and mine, we know the benefits of it and will continue to use it – AND WE WON’T TURN BLUE!!!

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  8. Domie October 20, 09:16

    I would also strongly recommend a supplement called Super Oxide Dismutase (SOD for short) As I understand it, this is an enzyme that your body makes from all that Vitamin C we take when we are sick… it is readily available on Amazon. I have noticed a marked improvement in my health since I started taking it. It is cheap at something $10/bottle. I mentioned it to my doctor and when he checked it out he was very excited about it. I have heard referred to as a super anti-oxidant.

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  9. Illini Warrior October 20, 12:36

    Good list overall … not near enough prep discussion about this VERY probable SHTF …

    Tyvek suits are OK and readily available off the shelf at the big box home improvement chains – but – if stockpiling in advance order Tychem suits – not that much more $$$$ and it’s what the pros use & recommend …

    Already mentioned – bleach – or in the alternative pool shock (calcium hypochlorite) – concentrated chlorine that stores longer …

    Item rarely mentioned – pump up garden sprayers for the large job of disinfecting and the quart bottle size hand sprayers for wiping down the interior areas ….

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  10. Labienus October 21, 19:54

    People need to understand, in a pandemic, depending on what it is and how it has mutated, you are probably going to die. There are already infections that are immune to antibiotics. Best way in my opinion to deal with a pandemic, is to quarantine those infected and around them, kill them or let them die off, burn the whole area to sanitize it. Wash and repeat. It isnt pretty or wholesome, but I’m pragmatic, not emotional.

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    • Illini Warrior October 21, 20:34

      Unfortunately burning the number of bodies involved in a pandemic won’t be that eazy – it’ll be more like dragging off the body and stockpiling in a vacant house – fire the entire house and feed it until it’s all ashes ….

      Sanitize any area where bodies fall with a strong disinfecting solution and insecticide for the creepy crawlers that can carry the pestilence …

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  11. Paranoid Peter October 23, 04:40

    What about good old fashioned Arm and Hammer Baking Soda. I read somewhere on the internet that people who used it during the Spanish Flu pandemic didn’t die as much as the people who didn’t use it.

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    • left coast chuck October 25, 02:04

      Used it for what purpose? Ate it? Washed surfaces with it? Washed clothes with it? Added it to their cooking? All of the aforementioned are uses that I know of for baking soda. I don’t think any one of them would have an effect on the influenza virus. Please spell out how they used baking soda to defeat the influenza virus in 1917.

      Perhaps this is one of the many urban legends floating around the internet. I don’t know. I would certainly like to know how it was used, if it actually had some kind of antiviral effect. Keep in mind that influence is a virus and not a bacterium. Many people don’t distinguish between the two, but antibiotics only work on bacteria. They have absolutely no effect on viruses. Substances that are antibacterial may or may not have any effect on viruses. Washing your hands removes both bacteria and viruses by virtue of the soap making the surface of your hand slippery and the water washes them away. It doesn’t necessarily kill them. It is a mechanical process, not a chemical one. Washing one’s hands with baking soda would have no more effect than washing with Fels Naptha Soap or Ivory Soap.

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      • Homesteader November 18, 20:26

        Maybe the simple act of washing their hands was the key. Back then, people didn’t wash like they do today. Even doctors seldom washed their hands between patients. The “scientific community”, if you want to call them that, was just beginning to learn about the connection of bacteria/viruses to diseases and the idea still wasn’t widely accepted.

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      • rt66paul April 5, 18:02

        You have to understand that it is usually a secondary infection(like pneumonia) that is actually to real cause of death, and, in most cases, can be controlled with antibiotics. This is the reason the doctor will prescribe antibiotics to someone that has a virus, but is having a hard time kicking it.

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        • red April 6, 02:03

          rt: I smoke. Germany said smoking seems to knock corona back. I know if I add ground cloves to the end before smoking, it knocks out bacterial infections. Viral, the herbalist always recommended zinc. In 1918, the healer told people to carry something made of brass or zinc next to the skin. those who did, few caught the flu and all recovered from it. niio

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  12. Buddy November 18, 16:58

    For a pandemic such as Bird Flu, you do not want Echinacea, or anything else that will boost the immune system.

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  13. monalisa October 23, 16:44

    I’m curious as to WHY only TWO (2) “hard back books” were on the list. I’d personally recommend TWO (2) others; “Herbal Antibiotics” and “Herbal AntiVirals” by Stephen Harrod Buhner. He also wrote a book about treating Lyme disease with herbs (don’t know HOW up-to-date that info is, but would still like to have it anyway). Been seeing some SCARY stats on Lyme disease proliferation…

    Also part of my collection; “A Modern Herbal – Volumes 1& 2” by Ms. M. Grieve (it hasn’t gone out of print since first published (!) by my possibly incorrect reckoning!). You WILL NEED TO DOWNLOAD/PRINT an “Apothecaries List of Measures”” to get the best use out of these books. Given the time that they were written (early 1930″s, WAY prior to Big Pharma!), these were the people you went to if you couldn’t make it yourself!!

    Another set of books I’d recommend are by Juliette de Bairacli Levy. She wrote several… cats, dogs, farm animals, humans… also considered “out-dated”. (I found mine on Amazon, and will get more if possible! Look them over, get what you want/need!) But By-Golly-Gawd if those tomes were ALL I had, I’d USE them!!!

    I’d also recommend Dr. Richard Pitcairn “Natural Health For Dogs and Cats” (homeopathic/nutrition-based) it’s his latest and possibly last (4th) edition… The List isn’t endless, but looks like it.

    Work with your people.. spread the “knowledge acquisition” amongst all the interested parties! You could create a helluva library!!! On ALL sorts of subjects! Just hope someone can use this info, or is maybe inspired to use it!!

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  14. Graywolf12 July 1, 15:33

    I want colloidal silver, Turmeric, garlic, ginger, and oil of oregano in my stock pile.

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  15. Timo February 14, 08:41

    You can’t hide from pandemic unless you live on an isolated remote island. The best way to prep is to boost your immune system. So, get to bed early (before 10 pm), drink enough water, exercise, cut added sugars, stop smoking, be happy, and so on…

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  16. KG5RDY February 14, 14:49

    Become a Ham operator, it’s the only fully reliable form of comuication.

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  17. Heidi February 14, 16:25

    Good suggestions, still need to bore into all messages, thank you!

    I am not that sure how bad it is and what this is.

    I see the Chinese Pres. Xi standing around indoors and on the streets with a skimpy mask over his mouth and nose where airborne pathogens can comfortably go in (and also out). He’s surrounded by people wearing similarly pandemic-insufficient masks. Does Xi want to get infected?

    Other videos show Chinese government workers drag often probably uninfected citizens out of their homes into quarantine. They drag them ‘as is’ (without protection) though apartment houses and areas that probably weren’t even infected yet, which exposes anybody there to any then distributed virus. How dumb is that? To mix healthy with maybe infected people in quarantine areas makes for more sick people. They must know that…

    Then the CDC screws up so heavenly: sending out coronavirus detection kits and then announcing, “oh our bad, these tests aren’t good’

    And then, the US government is screwing up again:
    First they say, 2 plane full of US citizens evacuated from Wuhan will be quarantined in a US Military North of San Diego (in Miramar) where the hospital is being prepared and staff trained for this purpose.

    Then, it turns out however, that at least some of these people (at least one but no more details were reported) were put into UCSD local hospital/s? In the City of San Diego.

    And: At least one of these at UCSD quarantined people was released from the public hospital(s) accidentally for an unknown (not reported) time to roam an unknown (unreported) area due to a mistake in blood sample labelling!

    I have worked for 10 years at UCSD, incl. a medical center and although I’ve seen many silly people and things go on there, I have to assume that personnel would be more careful reading test tube labels related to a pandemic.

    To me, it appears this might (might) be a real-world continuation of the Event 201 simulation. It so looks like it. Why could that be? Control and who knows.

    At least some of the people sickened by whatever and whomever and whyever, are being now also treated with iv Vit C. Something that should be routinely done say some, at least as a complimentary treatment this immune system support ‘bomb’ like vit C is a great approach.

    What I have done to be on the safe side is protect my health even more than before (aside from avoiding crowds as best I can in a city):
    Load up on oral vitamin C (I wish I could do iv-s), magnesium, zinc, selenium, vit A, vit D. And make my husband take his too! Should I see an infection, I will increase our vitamin A intake.

    Washing hands and sanitizing them when out or coming home, is a no-brainer. Keeping hands out of the face too.

    Fortunately, oregano oil, colloidal silver, H2O2, ozone, etc are all in our any day medical chest box already.

    Although I am not convinced about the dangers, it’s getting more important to be ready for an epidemic anyway. As stuff nowadays can ‘happen’ any time.

    Let’s hope we all stay healthy and quarantined and sickened people will get appropriate treatment.

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    • Heidi February 14, 18:59

      I forgot other ‘treatments’ we use:
      Iodine. Best used daily, but esp. when infections and topically if needed of course.

      Also, Dr Sircus thinks baking soda (orally) is also required. We use it daily.

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    • Miss Kitty February 16, 00:31

      I read this the last time it was posted, but had forgotten a lot of it.
      Wish it was posted last month, before the Corona virus really got going.😒

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    • Christa February 17, 21:17

      I’ve noticed all the same things you mentioned. Also, the WHO came out and disputed that “garlic” can help. Why would they do that, nobody is making a profit on garlic?

      During SARS, south Korea did not have any deaths, you can google an LA Times article on how they believe Kim Chee (KimChi) protected them. Kim Chee has raw garlic, ginger, red pepper chili. Whole Foods sells it in a refrigerated section.
      They think the allicin in raw garlic is what protected them during SARS.
      Kim Chee tastes great on a rice cracker with avocado.

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      • Heidi February 18, 01:39

        oh my, the Who?!
        Garlic is the best, ever. I am so grateful I can eat it raw, daily. I even made my 1st batch of ‘black’ garlic (it seems to be dark brown in my case but still tastes fabulous!) I also fermented it in salt water (there it turns green – very nice taste and of course good way to ‘conserve’/preserve it for a while).

        I agree, kimchi is super! Easy to make (to taste, just include what you like). Year back when my back still bothered me, we sometimes ate at a Korean place. One time, I got there with a back pain. I ate kimchi as usual, and low and behold, on our way back home my back pain was gone, gone! I told the proprietor the next time we ate there, she was all smiles and gave me a glass on my way.

        I put a little garlic into my sauerkraut as well, as it gives it an extra bite.

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        • red February 18, 16:05

          Heidi: Salt-free summer kraut, roasted with pieces of garlic on top, and chunks of apple! niio

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          • Heidi February 19, 18:44

            Red: Do you know ‘krautwickler’/stuffed cabbage leaves? My mother’s family (from Transylvania until WW2) made sauerkraut in big barrels; the whole heads. Then during winter the sauerkraut was ready, soft and more or less fermented. You take some of the whole leaves and roll in chopped up sauerkraut with rice and if wanted ground meat. These ‘wicklers’ were then cooked in and on top of a bed of chopped sauerkraut. Cooking may have ruined most of the probiotics, but the taste was excellent. My mother made it many times when I was a kid. You can go wild with modifications but you should try (high quality) sour cream if you eat dairy. You can add cooked potatoes, bone broth/soup stock, onions, (and of course garlic)… Unlimited options. Here in San Diego, I only can make small scale batches of chopped sauerkraut but it’s still a great way to perk up a salad and my gut microbiome.

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            • red February 20, 03:35

              Transvaal? When one stepdaughter moved to NY, Brooklyn, her two youngest, 5 and 6, met the landlord, who was from there. “Dracula! Dracula!” They jumped on him and hugged him. He was shocked, but used to tell them stories of the valiant Count who saved Europe.

              Sounds like halupkis, but tastier. A sauerkraut stuffed pancake is kraut cooked with meat of choice, onions, maybe a carrot for color. Drain, put in a pan and cover with pancake batter, then bake. It’s a good way to incorporate sourdough into a meal when most of us are low-carb. Sour cream is great, traditional, but homemade yogurt works. One quart milk, sterilize, and when it cools, add a heaping tablespoon of raw yogurt. cap, Set it on the fridge for a day or three. Often it jells in 25 hours and tastes sweet. For sour, another 3 days. That’s traditional yogurt as my grandmother learned to make it in the 20s. And, no salt summer kraut makes a salad all unto itself 🙂 niio

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          • Clergylady February 29, 02:58

            China makes nearly everything we use regularly.love the apple on top of the kraut.

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        • Ched Rich April 9, 14:03

          Totale agree with you garlic is pretty good for number one thing cholesterol . Taking garlic everyday helps to take a cholesterol level down some study show it even helps with losing weight. Wanting we have to be aware of it could make our breath smells, but they have the non order garlic supplement

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          • red April 9, 21:37

            Ched: Eat some fresh parsley after the garlic. It helps kill the smell and is loaded with iron. That’s why parsley is used as a garnish by restaurants. My family no longer has a cholesterol problem. We stopped eating gluten, wheat especially. No more diabetes, either for those who are strict about gluten. Doctors complain they’re going bald from tearing out their hair when we explain our motto: If it ain’t deep fried is it food? 😉 And, beef tallow is favored over all other oils. niio

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            • Ched April 19, 14:54

              Thank you red yes I agree parsley does help with your breath also In addition it helps with your digestive system thank you so much for the update

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      • Graywolf12 April 12, 13:51

        I eat at least 2 raw clove of garlic a day, and have been for years. No one ever said I had bad breath or body odor. I think the key is to be sure to take a good probiotic to keep the proper bacteria in your gut.

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        • Heidi April 12, 20:11

          Some people say you don’t get garlic breath when you aren’t eating meat. I was vegetarian and now am vegan and eat lost of garlic and onion, and my dogs say all is fine. No honestly, even my husband doesn’t complain and I’ve eaten raw garlic before previously still legal gatherings and nobody complained (not even family members who would certainly comment on it).

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    • Kainoa February 20, 23:14

      Heidi, you may find this article interesting..

      https://www.infowars.com/smoking-gun-china-bought-weaponized-wuhan-virus-from-us/

      This is a man-made bio-warfare agent, that probably leaked from the Wuhan lab.

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      • red February 21, 04:51

        kainoa: It’s possible, but why would they need it? Japan built plague labs in Inner Mongolia. Mao never destroyed them. Hitler sent as many as he could to the USSR, to his friend, Stalin. Stalin sent SS, Gestapo, and scientists to Mao. The chicoms were paying good money to molecular biologists. niio

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      • red April 9, 21:41

        Kainoa: Sadam got the Plague from Penn State, yes, but the chicoms have their own bio-weapons labs. They’re been listed on the watch group since they were outed in 1985. When Hitler was losing the war, he made a trwaty with Stalin. 500,000 SS and Gestapo were smuggled out of Germany ahead of the western allies. A lot went to Stalin, who sent hundreds to Mao to take China. They discovered plague labs in Mongolia. Mao never destroyed them. niio

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  18. san mateogirl130 February 14, 16:56

    wild lettuce extrat rose herbs excellent for pain control get some today I recommend it. also elderberry and garlic work great.

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  19. Illini Warrior February 14, 17:04

    in regard to a poly sheet sectioned off “sick room” in a home …
    to be totally effective you need an air discharge to the outside – like a small fan out a window (large size computer muffin fan) >> creates a slight low pressure area in that room …

    the room needs to well sealed with the poly sheeting around the door – good “gaffer’s or gorilla tape sealing – for entry a zipper type opening is perfect >> available to prep purchase in advance or improvise DIY using a disected zippered clothing storage bag ….

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  20. KG5RDY February 14, 18:14

    Become a Han operator and get a transceiver, make an inclusive go box. Also good for any major disasters for emergency communications. Check QRZ.com for details.

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  21. left coast chuck February 14, 18:16

    This post is in response to the most recent coronavirus epidemic.

    Other than actually getting the infection, the most important impact of this pandemic is that it interferes with commerce. Japan National Television news reported that there is a shortage of groceries in Singapore. This was caused by Chinese factories that ordinarily supply packaged foods to Singapore shutting down. Nissan Motor Company has suspended production of its automobiles for the duration. This action was occasioned by at least two sources: 1, factory workers not coming in due to either being ill or not wanting to become ill and 2, an attempt to limit the spread of the disease.

    China has announced that some of its factories have also shut down for the above-enumerated reasons.

    A sick trucker can spread the disease far and wide. If the trucking industry gets sick, the disease will become more widespread and retail supplies could become impacted as most deliveries are by truck.

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  22. Pinky February 14, 19:01

    In a garden shed that I purchased from a closed garden center, I found wooden crates filled with Korean war MASH supplies. They are new old stock. The crates are dated 1953, so they were packed to go and then the war ended. These will come in handy for a number of SHTF scenarios. I have enamel bedpans, urinals, & irrigators as well as large packages of gauze bandages, and surgical drapes. Let me know if you want to build your own MASH unit.

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  23. Ted February 14, 19:15

    We should make the enemy nation of china pay for all of this!
    After all, the chinese are the ones who developed this Bio-Weapon, known as coronovirus, and then they’re so incompetent that they let it get away from them before they could unleash it on the USA!

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  24. IvyMike February 15, 01:48

    This new corona virus causes flu like symptoms, but 30% of cases of common cold are caused by Corona viruses that have been around for generations. I used to catch a couple of bad colds every year until, 20 years ago, I started taking one capsule of standardized Echinacae every fourth day. Since then I have not had a single cold, it has also given me perfect protection against the flu. So I think there is a good chance it will protect against this new corona virus.
    China is in the process of declaring victory against the bug and going back to work to avoid a sharp economic downturn. I think they probably over reacted to it, we’ll find out because it’s bound to get a foothold in an urban area somewhere in the world that lacks effective governance and basic healthcare.
    I doubt the effectiveness of masks and respirators against a bug that can be airborne and also persist on hard surfaces for days. Let’s all try to go an hour without touching mouth, nose, eyes, etc…
    Insanely addictive sugar consumption is much more of an American health disaster than any pandemic likely to come around.

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    • red February 15, 06:55

      Mike: Yes, as far as I can find, the ‘plague’ has about 1/3 death rate of the flu. So far, the pandemic is mostly panic from the news media. On the other hand, chicoms are arresting anyone who’s discussing it in any social media. But, that’s socialists. Better to do the wrong thing than nothing. I use zinc, but never go overboard. A lot of viruses are beneficial and zinc is the antibiotic of viruses. niio

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  25. Wannabe February 15, 03:49

    As fast as coronavirus spreads you don’t have months to prepare you have days when an outbreak occurs.

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  26. Mississippi_man February 15, 05:42

    I will wait and see how much effect this has on N, Korea where there are primative medical facilities before I go full on in preps for a Pandemic.

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    • Heidi February 15, 15:28

      I don’t think we’ll hear much out of this isolated country.
      I could guess that they might be better off in N Korea since they don’t have the same ‘conveniences’ as we do in the West (e.g., LED lights more or less day and night in cities, toxic medications/vaccinations which reduce the body’s vitality and actually can poison it, esp the immune system; excess of (esp junk) food and other toxins.) They may be more attuned to natural healing which may give them an advantage… But who knows what is going on there (or here).

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    • red February 15, 17:58

      NK has medical facilities? Where? ! For the princes, sure. niio

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  27. CAGal February 15, 13:52

    Elderberry is also an antiviral and boosts your immune system. Each fall I make a big batch of elderberry syrup to take daily over the winter flu/cold months. I make enough to last until Mid April…when flu season starts to subside.
    Green juice or green smoothies with fresh garlic is also excellent immune booster/ preventive and can be masked with other fruits n veggies.
    Herbal medicine is in my opinion, the key to all of our future health…along with necessary and needed modern medicine. Disease feeds on sugar, plain and simple, cutting sugar out of your diet will boost your immune system. Love all the ideas and suggestions here.

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    • red February 15, 18:02

      Good post. Garlic, and don’t forget the parsley, which kills th smell but enhances the job garlic does. I have Ajo rojo and Cali giant in the garden. Ajo is a Creole garlic that likes heat and a little drought to preform at its best. It doesn’t do well in snowy areas, but does well in the tropics. It can be stored in paper bags hanging in a garage for 10 months. Rojo is so hot, it’s used mostly as a medicinal. And, tyhe cloves are huge, so less waste than most types of garlic. niio

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    • Sophie August 26, 02:53

      Elderberry Syrup is an absolute must. Also, please consider Black Garlic for the immune system and a product, such as Hydrolyte for hydration. Echinacea is always in my pantry. And just in case my fish suffer from a secondary illness after contracting COVID-19, a variety of fish antibiotics is well represented as well. Included in each of my first aid kits is a drawing salve and colidial silver.

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  28. Any_Amy February 17, 11:55

    Please stop calling the coronavirus outbreak a “pandemic”. It has NOT been given that status (yet). It only adds to fearmongering.

    “If we divide the number of deaths to date, by the total resolved cases, we get a mortality rate of 21%;” Your math is off here. It needs to be divided by the total number of closed cases (7,604) which gives a speculated death rate of 18%, not 21%.

    And antibacterial soap is a contributor to antibiotic resistance… just plain old soap works.

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    • Claude D. February 17, 13:08

      Hi, Any_Amy! Thank you so much for your input. You are absolutely right about the mortality rate. I have just modified it to 18%.
      God bless you,
      Claude

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    • Clergylady March 16, 02:19

      Were in March and its a designated pandemic and a designated National Emergency.

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      • red March 16, 13:51

        CL: And the dems want to shut down the country. this election cycle looks like a disaster for them and a major loss of power. To stop it, they might have to do like Italy. niio

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        • red March 18, 12:38

          1st, who are you talking to? 2nd, why are you talking? this virus is one of a long list of things that pop up every election cycle to damage the country. Italy has a high death toll because they’ve abandoned the elderly and disabled, the hospitals are undestaffed and filthy. they have universal/Bernie Sanders health care. so do the Chinese.

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          • Clergylady April 2, 16:30

            Here we are in the first week of April. Dems are wanting to cancel their national convention if Trump will agree to canceiling the the Republican convention.
            If I were a Dem I’d want to cancel too. All they have left are Sanders And poor Biden who can’t speak coherently even with a teleprompter in his basement. Yes it’s a Pandemic now and Bibdens interviews are from his basement.
            Most places gathering are forbidden. A mega church pastor has been arrested for holding a very large church service. Our nation is mostly on a sort of lockdown. Some states more stringent than others. New York now has a Naval hospital ship docked to handle the non virus cases and the Javitz Center is converted into a hospital. Central park has an operational tent hospital already accepting patients. Hospitals have refrigerated trucks acting as morgues. There are patients in hallways in New York hospitals. It barely sounds like America.
            Our schools and churches for the time being are closed. Most states don’t want you out unless it’s emergency, grocery or med runs.
            Today I have to pick up my husband’s meds or pay with my card on the internet and arrange they be delivered by fed ex early next week. Its hard with my husband with Alzheimer’s. Not safe to leave alone. Have to leave him in the truck if he goes with me. Not safe for him to go in a store… Means its not safe for me either. Hmmm.
            When this passes our rights had better be restored or I fear the very reason for the 2nd ammendment would come into play. It wasn’t for hunting Bambi.
            Its a troubled time. Businesses shuttered or boarded up. Folks not working. Stockmarket tanked. Record unemployment with little hope that many small businesses will reopen. I hope some have savings to carry them but a large portion of the economy was a hand to mouth existence anyway. That means almost instant inability to cover necessities. But evictions are on hold for the time being. That doesn’t speak well for landlords depending on that income for payments and property taxes. My registrations are due in 11 more days on our two vehicles. States offices are closed and a website isn’t up yet.
            It’s a strange new world to navigate!

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            • red April 3, 06:20

              Never waste a good tragedy. I used to go to NYC a lot. It’s not unusual to see gurneys packed in hallways even in Maimonides considered the best facility in world by man. NYC also has some of the worse. Rats running in the hall, callous aides and gangbangers for patients.

              What makes this different is socialized medicine. It drove away doctors here just as it did Italy and Spain. Government-owned schools adhere to Hitler’s demand for a rebellious youth and now NYC has a lot of rebellious adult. Socialism created anarchy where there was once thinkers. People like that panic when rebellion turns on them. Greedy, uncaring leaders abandoned them. Now the nation suffers and it’s heartbreaking.

              According to this, https://ncov2019.live/ the world just topped one million victims. More people catch the flu in this amount of time than have corona. The US has the lowest percentage of victims in temperate zone nations. Europe should be counted as one nation and has a half-million and we have close to the same percentage. A lot of nations are not preparing for it because of tropical climates. Some haven’t seen a victim yet. Others, past the initial strike, almost no increase. Some nations now entering winter will break, but those nations are preparing, unlike Europe and places like NYC.

              Arizona is still selling guns to Kali-fornians, those who can sneak over the river. Kali libs do like to boost our economy. Online stock trading is happening and strong. Some brokers are only dealing online. NYC and Chi don’t like it because they get a lion’s share of taxes, but now its happening.

              The world is always strange. That’s why we’re here! I refuse to worry because I have God and I have you with me. niio

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  29. Rebecca February 17, 18:57

    I recommend Colloidal silver(Maybe a generator to make your own) and soap

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  30. Christa February 17, 21:25

    Thank you for your website and the informative article.

    Be sure to google
    Kimchi SARS

    Be safe.

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  31. jdkjsi February 24, 03:08

    I’ve been following this pretty closely on Promed-mail, and I just want to point out that the experts are not disagreeing with one another when they talk about the tip of the iceberg and it being as fatal as the flu. The reason some experts are saying we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg is because it is much less dangerous than the confirmed cases would have us believe. The confirmed cases mostly only include cases where people sought medical help, so where their symptoms were sufficient to indicate they had the flu or worse. But if you look at situations like on the cruise ships and quarantine cases, many people test positive but have minimal symptoms and think they only have a cold or allergies, if that. Therefore, there are almost certainly a whole lot more people with the virus, which would drive down the fatality rate to be more like the flu (deaths/number of infected=fatality rate). So the reason experts think it is only as fatal as the flu is because we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg–we are only seeing the severe cases for the most part. A whole lot more people are likely infected as well, but don’t know it. However, it does seem to also be very contagious, and screening methods don’t work well. That all makes it very difficult to contain and therefore dangerous since we have no vaccine like for the flu..

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    • red February 24, 09:35

      jd: For the most part, yes, but we don’t actually have a vaccine for the flu, either. It mutates too fast. anyone who dies has to be processed by law. 3rd world nations may overlook things, but not socialist states, Europe, or the US. So far, the death toll is between common cold and the flu. If theraflu works against flu and colds, than it’ll work against this–zinc and Vitamin C. niio

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  32. Clergylady February 29, 03:38

    I use chewable vitamin C and zinc if I feel something trying to catch me. It usually sends if and running. I very seldom have a cold and 3 times in 45 years I’ve had flu. If I get as far as the sniffles I drink hot teas which include sliced fresh ginger.

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    • red February 29, 09:59

      I have no idewa what this cred is that’s biting now, but were it a viral infection, it would be dead now. I am using ground ginger to help stop the runny nose. 2 cephalaxin an hour ago, tho, and it feels a lot better. It was bad enough it dragged me out of bed. niio

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  33. Clergylady April 2, 11:39

    Its interesting that China has closed down another entire province again while still claiming 0 new cases and even world leaders are saying China lied about how many cases and deaths there were.
    China went to other nations as saviors with faulty test kits that at least South Korea and Spain returned. The gowns, masks et were appreciated.
    America is ramping up to produce the needed supplies.

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    • red April 2, 13:23

      ClergyLady: China is claiming 89,000 deaths, but over 230,000 funeral urns had been made in Wuhan. niio

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    I won’t be separating living areas. Its just two of us in less than 900 sq ft. 1 bedroom which has the 1 bathroom at the far end. Living room, Dinning area, and Kitchen are one open room. A little Laundry room at the back door.
    That’s it. Just right for two great grandparents.
    I have some books on the list and many more on the subjects of Native American wild foods and medicinal, wild foods, wild medicines, herbs, First Aid, and Pandemic Medicine. I have books to read and dominoes to play besides all the daylight activities of caring for chickens, ducks, rabbits, cats, and a dog..starting plants in every window for the garden.
    Nights are still mostly below freezing. Only a few things do well at these temps. Still I’m readying the rows and planting what can survive these temps. Mostly cole crops and peas.
    Can’t go anywhere so staying busy here and watching way too much TV.

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    • red April 3, 06:40

      Watch for stray dogs. Coyotes take care of most, but with people panicking they won’t take care of their dogs. that was something we liked about Muscovy ducks, they can be as hard on predators as the predators on us. While we had a small commercial flock of laying hens, the family flock was free most of the day, only penning them in the morning till lay was done, then at night, they roosted outside or the barn. that includes the Muscovy, which prefer to roost. While here we can go out and about, I’m sticking close to the house thanks to allergies. I look like I just escaped from Kali 🙂 People are more worried about rattlers coming down from the mountains than getting sick. One family found two smaller ones in their house. The mom swears she’s buying a pet pig in the fall to make sure no more get in come spring. niio

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  35. Clergylady April 2, 17:21

    Today’s unemployment number has reached over 10,000.

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    • Clergylady April 5, 18:33

      That should have been 10,000,000

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      • red April 6, 02:13

        Word is, there were riots i the UK by people angry because they can’t go to work. People are bitter and are demanding the right to own guns again. the crooks haven’t stopped their thing. niio

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    • Ched Rich April 9, 14:11

      Totale agree with you garlic is pretty good for number one thing cholesterol . Taking garlic everyday helps to take a cholesterol level down some study show it even helps with losing weight. Wanting we have to be aware of it could make our breath smells, but they have the non order garlic supplement

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  36. Graywolf12 April 9, 14:32

    5 gallon buckets and a toilet seat for them. Tall kitchen bags to put in bucket.

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    • red April 9, 21:44

      Graywolf: Compost pit. Dig it out, then use dirt from the next one to cover the crap. Old-timers planted roses around the outhouse to keep down the smell and draw off toxins. niio

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      • Graywolf12 April 10, 02:16

        I lived for the first 18 years of my life with an out house and slop jars for night and stormy weather. What I am talking about is where you can not build an out house. On my lot it would have to be in he front yard because we are lower than the street behind us. In real wet weather we now have 2 – 6 inches of water on our back yard.

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        • red April 10, 18:02

          Graywolf: Understand it now. In the event of an emergency, tho, you can put a standing outhouse in. People in wet tropics are doing this to make methane for fuel. They don’t stink like a regular outhouse will. The tank is sealed, and the pipe stand drops into the tank. A gallon or so of water forces everything into the tank. Methane is drawn off to a large bag. That’s opened to use for fuel and lighting. I have no idea how well it would work in winter, but existing effluent is considered safe if high in nitrogen.

          I lived in the Pocono Mnts for years. In a wet year, the water table comes within a few feet of the surface. That made me more than happy to get back to Arizona. niio

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          • Graywolf12 April 12, 14:14

            I graduated fro East Stroudsburg State Teachers College in 1957. My brother was the state health inspector for several counties in the Pocono’s. I left Pa in 1958 and moved all over ,but fell in love with Texas. Now as Texan as if born one.

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            • red April 13, 01:27

              Graywolf: the family farmed east-central PA, but left. I went there for a while because there was no work here, in AZ. I never got used to rain or the greed of the dems. I agree, you made the right choice. Hasta

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      • Miss Kitty April 10, 17:44

        Privet hedges were used for that, too. The flowers are very highly scented, and they grow fast to hide the “necessary”. Bees love the flowers, so they’re great for attracting them to your property for pollenation.

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        • red April 10, 20:09

          Miz Kitty: Hoe are you? All is well in Kennedy country, I hope. Privet hedges are good, yes, but roses? Emergency food, too. Add an elm for shade and in the spring the place smells like honey. You can raise linden trees, which are tend time better than elms 🙂 Roses, wow. The women would strip the blooms to dry to give to people who make rosary beads, sachets, even perfume, all from what no one wanted to know where the roses had their roots deep into 🙂 Nature is funny like that. Stay well, we need you! niio

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  37. Ched April 12, 17:30

    Who feels social distances is working on helping to void the spread of this virus?

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  38. Heidi April 12, 19:51

    I think it just makes it worse. Isolation increases fear and aggression, inhibits the immune system, causes vasoconstriction, reduces blood flow, i.e., reduces oxygen supply, which causes anaerobic situation in eg lungs which encourages bacterial, fungal and viral growth.

    Aside from the fact that people are already ‘distanced’ enough in my view (and I am not even a ‘social butterfly’, far cry of).

    People worry about this virus and cling tightly to their cell phones (which also depresses the immune system and causes the blood to clump, which again causes areas which are breeding grounds for microbes.)

    Aside from that people just seem to become weirder when they jump away from oncoming foot traffic.

    Why social distancing may be the wrong thing to do. A 40 min video from a Professor who seems to know what he is talking about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGC5sGdz4kg&feature=youtu.be

    Social distancing plays into the hands of the NWO ruling class.

    Here is more info on this epidemic: It is a must read for everybody who wants to inform her/himself.
    With ‘tons’ of links/references:
    https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

    Socially distanced yours; among strange people, mostly covering their mouths and now even entire faces out of fear and panic, largely caused by the media, which largely are intimately related to the rulers. Who do not only want to surveil and control us more but also want to vaccinate the s.it out of us with more toxic vaccines. Mandatory vaccinations as done already in Argentian I think, required for travel, drivers license, work, social security, bank account (well digitized money account) etc.

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    • red April 13, 15:45

      yes, exactly. I wonder ow many are sick because they were hammered with this, then forced to isolate. niio

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    • Graywolf12 April 13, 18:58

      The forced vaccinations are a dream of Bill Gates, and Soros. Only God knows what they put in them. Gates has talked about using vaccinations to reduce fertility in humans to reduce world population to reduce CO2. If people could get their hands on the package inserts that list adverse reaction that are in the package of vials of the serum they would never take a shot again. The list of ingredients is also an eye opener.

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      • red April 14, 19:36

        Graywolf: When Rendell was gov of PA, he tried to put thru a co2 tax, 5 bucks per person for polluting. Gates as I understand owns the right to DDT and wants it legal, and the feds to buy from him. Only thing, I remember when I was a kid, it didn’t work well. They tried it in NYC to combat bedbugs, complete failure. niio

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        • Graywolf12 April 14, 21:48

          I lived there in the era of Scranton. I left in 1958. DDT was given a bad rap because people abused it. If a cup in 50 gallons a quart should work better. It was on the road to save millions of lives, but they were BLACK lives. There are those that subscribe to the Hitler/Sanger school of bad weeds need to be eliminated. Banning DDT helped reduce the number of bad weeds thanks to Malaria.

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      • red April 15, 20:55

        Graywolf: when I was a kid in the 60s, we farmed. Dad worked 3rd shift. he would come him in the morning and do some work till Mom ran him off to bed and ran me out to play. One thing he did was to spray all the flies on the east side of the barn. when playing down there I saw heaps of flies. You know kids. I got a stick to play with them. As the sun got over the mountain and it warmed up, the flies started to crawl around by 10, most had flown away. I told Dad at super and he went down to look. He thought the chickens and ducks ate them, but next Saturday, he sprayed again. this time to watched them start to fly off. We took buckets of cold, wet flies to the burner and man, that stank worse than branding. He called the county ag rep and the man told him, well, DDT hasn’t worked well for some tome. the insects are resistant to it. If mosquitoes are a problem, now they say use coal oil. It’s not toxic and breaks down to forms of nitrogen fast. Even motor is is good. They tried DDT in NYC a few years ago when bedbugs were all over. It did not work. I saw it. the manager bought it on the black market. One hotel bought hundreds of sterilized kissing bugs which eat bedbugs and the eggs, and cleaned them out that way. then had to sterilize the rooms in case of of a pathogen kissingbugs can carry.DDT was dropped solely because it no longer worked, no matter what Bill Gates claims.

        Most Africans are malaria-resistant. Malaria is being treated today with zinc and vitamin C. My stepfather had malaria from Korea and would balk at quinine water. Mom added extra zinc and C to his pills and he stopped having the sweats. Big pharm doesn’t like it because zinc and C are cheap.

        Texas researchers were on the front lines against malaria. this is a Texas bragging right.
        http://www.batcon.org/resources/media-education/bats-magazine/bat_article/386
        niio

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        • Graywolf12 April 19, 16:17

          Where to start. people with abnormal hemoglobin’s are partially resistant to some Malarial parasites. Those with Hb. S, Ovalocytosis, and Elliptocytosis are partially immune or resistant to malarial infestations. In some areas the blood group “O” shows some resistances as well. Those with G6PD deficiency and Thalassemia also shows some resistance. From what I could find one reference said “zinc is likely ineffective, and Vit. C may increase parasitemia. http://www.malariaworld.org/blog/vitamin C and malaria -beware.

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          • red April 20, 08:53

            Graywolf: Yes! But, secondary infections kill faster than the parasite. Meanwhile the panel is still out on it, S. American doctors are still prescribing zinc+brass or copper for malaria because it works. Not as fast as expensive drugs sold by big pharm, but it works. I saw it work with my stepfather, a Korean War vet. the majority of people using zinc are American Indian and whites, not African. We pay for big pharm’s ‘donations’. Tobacco, chew or snuff, can be used as well. Zinc kills viral infections. Brass is again being used in Asian nations to fight bacteria and viral infections, It’s also used for the parasite carried by kissing bugs, which is a bigger killer than malaria is. Best hedge is still kerosene, which suffocates mosquito larva.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligodynamic_effect niio

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  39. Ched April 14, 15:53

    A suggestion are not helping to move the lines outside the supermarket faster. We should make a list of what we going for in the supermarket and when we getting just pick up our item on try to get out very fast so we would keep the line moving we do not have to wait so long outside the line would be moving faster where is the one to help out the situation

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