The Only 4 Antibiotics You’ll Need when SHTF

Dr. S. Flint
By Dr. S. Flint March 4, 2015 12:32

The Only 4 Antibiotics You’ll Need when SHTF

The most important thing you should know about antibiotics!

Never expect a doctor to phone-in a prescription for an antibiotic without seeing you first. Why? To ensure your illness is in fact a bacterial infection, as viruses do not respond to antibiotics.

For example Influenza is a virus infection – this is why your doctor will never prescribe you antibiotics for this.

Knowing the difference between a viral and bacterial illness may save you time and money. Here are four tips to help you determine when an illness could be viral or bacterial. Take this advice only when you can’t see a doctor (when SHTF):

  1. Location: A viral illness typically causes wide-spread symptoms. A bacteria usually causes site-specific symptoms, such as those involving the sinuses, throat, or chest.
  2. Phlegm color: A virus may produce clear or cloudy mucous, if any. A bacterial illness typically causes colored phlegm (green, yellow, bloody or brown-tinged).
  3. Duration of illness: Most viral illnesses last 2 to 10 days. A bacterial illness commonly will last longer than 10 days.
  4. Fever. A viral infection may or may not cause a fever. A bacterial illness notoriously causes a fever (normal body temperature is 98.6, a fever is considered greater than 100 degrees Fahrenheit).

If you are diagnosed with a bacterial illness, typical antibiotic treatment is 10 to 14 days.

A person is no longer considered contagious once on an antibiotic for 24 hours and any fever has been resolved. (Source – Dr. Linda Petter)

If your symptoms do not resolve, or if at any time you develop a severe headache or neck pain, persistent nausea / vomiting or a fever, be sure to see a doctor promptly.

What Antibiotics to Stockpile

No antibiotic is effective against every type of microbe. Certain ones will kill aerobic bacteria, others are used for anaerobic bacteria, still others are effective against resistant strains, and certain people are allergic to or intolerant of various antibiotics.

Instead of buying 10 types of antibiotics (many having similar substances) you should consider 4-5 with totally different actions, so if the bacteria is resistant to one of them, you have 4 totally different “solutions” to try.

This, of course, only if you don’t have access to a clinic where they can test the bacterial resistance to these antibiotics first.

For example if you took Amoxicillin with no effect, there is no need to try other penicillin based antibiotics (Carbenicillin, Cloxacillin, Flucloxacillin, Oxacillin, Methicillin an so on) so you can exclude a wide range.

But the antibiotics listed bellow should work for most bacterial diseases, including Most Common Biological Weapons (like Anthrax – 90% mortality without treatment in the first 3-6 days).

The 4 Antibiotics You’ll Need

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1. Amoxicillin

Amoxicillin is a penicillin antibiotic used to treat many different types of infection caused by bacteria, such as tonsillitis, bronchitis, pneumonia, gonorrhea, and infections of the ear, nose or throat.

Amoxicillin is also sometimes used together with another antibiotic called clarithromycin – the second one – to treat stomach ulcers caused by Helicobacter pylori infection.

Update – at the suggestion of Dr. M (comment area): Augmenting is also a very good option. It’s basically an upgraded amoxicillin (contains amoxicillin + clavulanate potassium) but with increased (mild) side-effects: stomach discomfort with mild cramping and diarrhea. I know it’s OK for most of people. I personally tried it 2 times and I had the bad luck of happening to me.

Related: Meds Stockpile For a Crisis

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clarithromycin2. Clarithromycin

Clarithromycin is a macrolide antibiotic. It fights bacteria in your body.

Clarithromycin is used to treat many different types of bacterial infections affecting the skin and respiratory system. If the bacteria seems to be resistant to Amoxicillin, this is the next best thing one should try when SHTF.

Contains Erythromycin and can be substituted with. Don’t take both antibiotics at the same time.

Update – at the suggestion of Dr. M (comment area):  Zithromax (also a macrolide antibiotic) is a very good (better in many ways) substitute for Clarithromycin. But it is less active against Helicobacter pylori.

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Ciprofloxacin13. Ciprofloxacin

Ciprofloxacin is an antibiotic in a group of drugs called fluoroquinolones.

Ciprofloxacin is useful for anthrax, urinary tract and prostate infections, diverticulitis and many forms of pneumonia and bronchitis.

Related: The Only Meds That You Need To Stockpile for SHTF

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4. Metronidazole

MetronidazoleMetronidazole belongs to a class of antibiotics known as nitroimidazoles.

Metronidazole is used to treat parasitic and bacterial infections including Giardia infections of the small intestine, colon infections, liver abscess, vaginal infections (not yeast), fungating wounds, intra-abdominal infections, lung abscess and gingivitis.

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How to store antibiotics?

Every antibiotic has its own particular decay rate, as proteins (oligopeptides) are subject to hydrolyzation, the main form of attack (heat and moisture are the enemy).

So, if you plan on long term storage, the individual foil packs are the best choice. Then pack them in sealed containers with dessicants to be sure.

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For how long is it still safe to take antibiotics after the expiration date?

The American Medical Association (AMA) conducted a study and concluded that the actual shelf life of some products is longer than the labeled expiration date.

Manufacturers put expiration dates on for marketing, rather than scientific, reasons,” said Mr. Flaherty, a formal pharmacist at the FDA. “It’s not profitable for them to have products on a shelf for 10 years. They want turnover.”

With time, most antibiotics simply become less effective.

So maybe the question should be “for how long these antibiotics are expected to still have effects?”

Amoxicillin (tablets) – 5 years after the expiration date;

Clarithromycin and Doxycycline (tablets) – 5 years after the expiration date;

Ciprofloxacin (tablets) – 10 years after the expiration date;

Metronidazole (tablets) – 3 years after expiration date;

I hope you found this information useful. This is a guest post from Dr. S. Flint.

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  1. laurel March 4, 16:25

    How and where can you get these meds since most dr will not just fill them so you can stock them up
    Thanks laurel
    What products can be substituted for them and were would i get them.

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    • Atwas911 May 11, 01:31

      Many pet and aquarium supply stores stock “Fish” antibiotics. The name of them is an indication of what actual drug they are.. Fish-Mox for example is Amoxicillin, etc.. These are the exact same perscription dugs sold in a pharmacy under a doctor’s prescription, same marking on the pill etc.. They just package their overstock as a petcare product. You can often times find bottles of 100+ for under $20USD.

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    • Ruth April 21, 06:01

      Sounds gross but fish antibiotics can be taken for humans.
      Researchit before trying however!

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    • Mike February 5, 20:40

      I go to Puerto Vallarta Mexico every year for vacation. All of these antibiotics as well as most other prescription drugs, are available in local pharmacies, without prescription, for a fraction of the US cost. All made by the same manufacturers as in the US.

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  2. jill March 4, 17:44

    I too would like to know where you can get some of these antibiotics for long term storage. No doctor will write you a script nor will insurance pay for such a large variety of antibiotics.

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    • C. Davis March 5, 00:13

      I’ll write an article on this. There are countries where you can buy antibiotics (the same antibiotics we have here) without prescription. Maybe I’ll find a connection or some trustworthy websites where you can buy them (if it’s legal – I don’t know). I bought Ciprofloxacin and Amoxicillin from Mexico.

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      • elen October 3, 04:49

        hi there, I am greek and here in Greece all the drugs are free to buy (if you can afford them) except for those that can cause addiction to the patient (narcotics, sleeping disorder peels etc)

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      • SoJ_51 January 23, 08:07

        @ C. Davis – Yes – ie: In Central America, you can walk into Any pharmacy and, ‘OTC’ get just about Any antibiotic that’s made (and they stock..) – CHEAP! – and with No ‘script’. If you’ve got friends or family in such a country, they CAN mail you those, but. Fair warning: a) Don’t Order a TON at a time! Packages can / do get inspected in customs, and a ‘Large amount’ of pill-bottles / paks, will likely cause a flag (and possible seizure, etc) b) DO NOT GET THEM TO RESELL IN THE US!! THEN you are likely ‘breaking laws’, and, well.. that’s all On U.. DONT BE A DUMMY / try to make $$, just worry about You / Yours. Customs isn’t going to go after a ‘family member’ sending a few boxes / bottles of “vitamins” to another family member, etc..

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  3. Stephen March 5, 04:19

    I would add doxycycline to your list. None of the 4 you list will cover MRSA skin infections. Doxycycline also is the drug of choice for most all of the tick-borne diseases. Veterinary antibiotics do not require a prescription.

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    • Dr.M March 5, 20:02

      doxy becomes toxic when it breaks down. Not ideal for storage.

      Augmentin is better than amoxicillin. More active vs penicillinase-producing bacteria.

      Zithromax is better than clarithromycin. Longer dwell time in the body, requiring shorter course of treatment and fewer doses.

      Cipro is a good macrolide choice.

      Bactrim is a nice sulfa choice.

      4 drugs from 4 classes allows overlap and coverage. Get fish abx and verify them on

      Just sayin….

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      • Stephen March 5, 22:04

        Your federal government has stockpiled doxycycline and ciprofloxacin for public health emergency involving anthrax.
        Yes, using expired doxycycline can potentially damage your kidneys.

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        • Dr.M. March 5, 23:52

          Thanks, I am aware of the gov’t keeping doxy. If you are a cattle farmer or are afraid of anthrax bioterrorism get some and throw it out on expiration. I haven’t seen anthrax in 20 years of Midwest medical practice.

          The 4 drugs I suggest may lose potency over time but won’t degrade into a toxin which can kill you. they will treat 99% of what you’ll encounter with redundancy, shelf stability, and safety. All also come in fish-abx tablets. Those are what I use. Feel free to stock whatever you like.

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          • Dale April 23, 04:41

            Dr. M
            Not to long ago, the military/CDC moved their infectious disease lab to Manhattan,KS. Right in the heart of cattle country. This wouldn’t be a problem, except the same lab experienced several ‘accidents’ and released toxic substances into the atmosphere. Its widely known these labs keep anthrax for research purposes. And, if you believe the conspiracy theorists, none of these ‘accidents’ were actually accidents. So I would keep some of the antidotes on hand. Can’t tell you how much, or what it would cost, but…

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      • Dr. S. Flint Author March 6, 02:50

        Hi everybody,

        Doxycycline does NOT become toxic! It’s just a myth. The FDA tested and approved the use of Doxycycline past the expiration date: read the last row:

        Yes Dr. M, there are more (very good) options. I choose these 4 antibiotics because they are common and only based on my practical experience.

        This is not the most extensive article, but it wasn’t meant to be. I wanted to write down only the basics – every prepper should know.

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        • Dr.M. March 6, 21:10

          With respect, doxy degrades into a product that is toxic to kidneys which causes Fanconi syndrome. Readers, please look it up on Wikipedia. It’s not a good choice for storage.

          Given the title of the article, I simply felt the choices presented were not the best choices as the only 4 abx you’ll ever need for SHTF. Sorry to disagree.

          I’ll stop responding as this shouldn’t be a pissing match. Dr.SF gets last word, as its his/her article. Thanks.

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          • The Skeptic March 21, 11:03

            Wow, courtesy on the internet! Something you don’t see much of any more. I second adding a Sulfa based antibiotic like Bactrim to the list.

            If you can get prescriptions, most of these are on Walmart’s, Target’s, others $4/$10 generics lists. If not, Google “fish antibiotics.”

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            • Joseph August 27, 08:25

              I would not add Bactrim or other sulfas (triple sulfa etc.) for the simple reason that a lot of folks are allergic to them and can suffer serious reactions and side effects (like serious rashes and inflammation etc) “Fish prednisone” might exist to treat adverse reactions but I have never seen it in vet supply chains. Its important to know how your body reacts to stored antibiotics and the medical history of the individual(s) being treated. I am sure this applies to all who wish to be treated safely. Just saying.

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              • Joy August 16, 21:03

                I agree.. I am allergic to Sulfa drugs. Nearly passed out, and difficulty breathing, from them when I was a teen..Had rash/hives from penicillin too, even the penicillin based newer drug (3rd generation)…Only thing that ever worked for me was/is tetracycline. 50 + years, still works for bronchitis. Is there any drug that can be stored that even comes close? I would store it in a vacuum sealed pouch or mason jar that also has a vacuum sealer attachment cover.

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        • Honesty October 21, 03:01

          I have taken Doxycycline years after expiration date and it worked no bad side effects and i’am alive to talk about it..

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        • don March 8, 23:27

          I am allergic to sulpha based antibiotics. I had a allergic reaction with blisters an swelling and severe itching from some I was given for a staph infection. Any suggestions?

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      • Mahatma Muhjesbude March 29, 14:10

        Excellent tutorial article!

        I know i saw an advertisement on one of the prepper sites for a direct mail order source for antibiotics from an actual doctor/pharmacy i think was located in Canada or some other off shore location.

        Dr. M. or any other prep minded M.D.s…
        Are you already ‘situated’ or have a good BOL for a real time bad scenario? If not, I could direct you to one of, if not The best locations in the country for all survival scenarios?

        (oh, i just noticed you said below that you practice in the ‘Midwest’. Well, that’s where it is.!)

        It’s a Rural privacy area but close enough to every entertainment concievable for a lifestyle with all the amenities without the congestion, crime, or stress. No chance of fresh water shortage, no earthquakes, floods, hurricaines, etc. Maybe a rare tornado or snow blizzard Good people on many self sustaining ‘hobby farms’, good contingency of Amish, ex military and police retirees….
        and all pro gun rights. You can even carry a pushbutton switchblade knife here legally now, lol!

        And yes, there’s always a ‘need’ for experienced medical personnel in the state should you want to have the option of permanent residence with employment opportunities. I believe there is actually a shortage of doctors as they actuallyl have physician’s assistants managing clinics and acting as ‘primary physicians’ in areas.

        I’m not selling anything, but as a long time ‘survivalist’, (and i do some articles for Survivopedia and other venues on the subject) I like encourage like minded person(s) who might appreciated neighbors of similar inclinations and resources who would be advantaged and also be an ‘asset’ toward the potential benefits of living in such an area in an uncertain future.

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      • Dr. T June 27, 16:32

        I’m sure you know this, but most non-medical would not. Cipro is not a macrolide, but a fluoroquinalone. I also think an important and extremely useful fluoroquinalone would be Levaquin. We use it empirically more so than Cipro. But both have their place and are equally as important.

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        • cindycat7893 March 20, 17:26

          Thank you for giving us such helpful information. Your efforts are very much appreciated! I do want to point out, however that Cipro is not s good choice.
          FDA and Health Canada have significant warnings for Cipro and the other fluoroquinolone antibiotics, yet their warnings fall far short of the horrific damage these drugs do. Many people diagnosed with fibro myalgia, MS, lupus, chronic fatigue and IBS are likely experiencing delayed reactions to one of these drugs. It can cause multiple horrific permanent debilitating adverse reactions. These adverse reactions are most often delayed even several months later, so you don’t suspect the real cause. Colloidal silver should be able to cure anthrax, and it is far safer!
          See FDA warnings here:
          Bty these adverse reactions are not rare, but under reported as most doctors believe Big Pharma’s lie that they are so safe that there is no way all your multiple symptoms that appeared out of nowhere could be from an antibiotic. Thousands who have been damaged by these drugs have also faced terrible abuse from doctor’s who refuse to believe that these multiple symptoms of pain, tendon tears or ruptures, psychosis, anxiety, diverticulitis, vein disorders, cognitive decline, pulmonary edema, peripheral neuropathy and more were caused by the antibiotic they prescribed you for a routine or even suspected infection!
          By taking Cipro, you are risking ending up permanently disabled and unable to do what is required to help yourself or your family stay alive. Please don’t ever take it unless every other option has failed!!!!!!!!!

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      • Dr. Y April 28, 05:08

        Doxycycline is fine, it’s tetracycline that becomes toxic. The FDA in fact has explicitly approved doxy for use past its expiration date. There is absolutely no reason in this universe not to stockpile doxy, as it is the treatment of choice for a range of illnesses that you could get out in the wild.
        Ciprofloxacin is NOT a macrolide, it’s a fluoroquinolone.
        I would actually pick levofloxacin over cipro; it has greater coverage and less resistance.
        My picks:
        1) amoxicillin-clavulanate
        2) levofloxacin
        3) doxycycline
        4) metronidazole
        5) clindamycin
        For what it’s worth to the people out there, I’m an internal medicine physician specializing in hospital medicine.

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    • ShirlGirl April 14, 13:31

      The essential oil of oregano also works well against MRSA.

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  4. WYOprepper March 5, 18:21

    Excellent article. I have been reading prepper articles for a long time and have never commented on one, after I read your article I felt compelled to comment. I have all of the listed meds and a couple that appear to be duplicates since they end in “cillin”. I have wondered about what to use for various infections and have never been able to find an adequate explanation until now. As for acquiring the antibiotics, I have fish antibiotics and have used them with good results. A word of caution, I only use antibiotics as a last resort, not for every little sniffle, they are way over used and too much of a good thing can end up being bad. Eat for good health, good nutrition, the weeds will build up your immune system.

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    • Dr. S. Flint Author March 6, 02:53


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    • Pencilpusher6 June 27, 17:36

      There is a great book that explains which antibiotics to use for what illness and how much and when to take it. It is the PDR (physician’s desk reference ) You can buy it on Amazon and maybe Ebay. You can also find almost all antibiotics on Ebay as a fish antibiotic.

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    • Brenda January 16, 18:55

      An excellent reference book that is easier to read and understand is Nursing Drug Handbook by Lippincott. They come out with a new book with all the new drugs each year but an older version from a used bookstore would be fine for antibiotics. It will give you dosage needed for specific problems. It is small and compact compared to a PDR.

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  5. HarleyHuskerMan March 7, 05:25

    Great article on antibiotics!

    I would like an article on parasites, bugs, germs, etc found in surface water. I have had Guardia 4 times so I know that I am susceptible to it. We have a lot of Guardia in Colorado and although that mountain stream may provide cool water it can still make you sick for weeks or months without treatment.

    What is best for Guardia and what is a home remedy substitute if real medicine is not available?

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  6. FluffyTigerFluff March 22, 04:59

    These articles seem to never mention the sometimes very serious side-effects or other risks associated with certain medications, herbs, or the like. Ciprofloxacin for example has such serious concerns associated with it that it has been banned in some countries. Granted in an emergency you are going to be more willing to take a risk; and Cipro is one of the antibiotics one can still purchase as a fish medication. Another very common error I see is the recommendation of Echinacea, without it being clarified that you MUST use the ROOT portion of Echinacea ANGUSTIFLORIA only. The other types are useless but flood the marketplace, meaning that lots of preppers are stockpiling worthless herbs. Those are just two examples. PLEASE everyone before you decide to try any alternative medical advice, do thorough research and don’t assume that a blogger did sufficient research for you before posting.

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    • Herblady22 April 19, 18:15

      Your information on Echinacea is a bit misleading. Echinacea angustifolia root may be the strongest version and can take down anthrax with repeated tincture doses (getting drunk is a side effect.). However Echinacea purpurea seed is second strongest and will take down many bacterial and viral diseases. The roots of Rudibeckia hirta will behave similarly. The flowering tops of Echinacea purpurea are somewhat less strong, but work as tinctures. Raw garlic is a true antibiotic- mince it finely, coat in honey and put the spoon in upside down so your tongue thrusts it back down. I like using decocted (simmer 20 minutes) dried Coptis root for strong effects or Phellodendron tree bark (not the houseplant) for diarrhea. But Berberis (either barberry root or Oregon grape root) will take down infections if they are more superficial (no constipation or diarrhea) Goldenseal root can be used like Coptis but is endangered. I’m a degreed herbalist certified by the American Herbalists Guild, with 25 years experience..I rarely use antibiotics because there are effective herbs

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    • KJ September 2, 03:31

      That is correct about the root. You know you have the best stuff if it makes your tongue numb. If is doesn’t, it’s useless. One of those simple little tricks…..

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  7. Doc April 4, 02:44

    What folks want to know is what are the trust worthy sites to order these from. What has your research determined these to be?

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    • Pencilpusher6 June 27, 17:40

      You can buy them on Ebay from different businesses and at great prices. Also purchase PDR book (physician desk reference) that explains which one to use for what illness and for how long. They also list possible side effects.

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  8. Lunae May 3, 14:58

    Hi. Just a comment for the person inquiring how to stockpile antibiotics and anyone else interested.

    Aquarium supply stores online can legally sell aquarium antibiotics to be used on fish, of which many are common human antibiotics. These are the same substance as their ‘for-human’ counterparts, and still safe to consume, within reason. Now I wouldn’t suggest taking these unless there is no alternative, but if I had the choice between ‘fish-quality’ medicine and no medicine I would choose to stockpile. Which I have yet to do anways lol.

    A few quick google searches will tell you all you need to know.
    Use responsibly.

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  9. HisCrownJewel July 27, 20:12

    One other item I added to my drug supplies was a nurses directory to drugs, their administration and side effects. It was $1.00 on Amazon, used – why buy new… A PDR (physicians desk reference) is more exhaustive but HUGE! The nurse’s book is barely bigger than a good paperback. Now, with drugs changing frequently I would suggest purchasing another more current edition every few years, but for a buck, it shouldn’t be a problem.

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    • Dodger October 17, 21:05

      Can you provide the exact name of this book? I looked on Amazon and couldn’t find anything that seemed to be this one and not at this price. Thanks.

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      • Keene December 31, 17:56

        search “physician desk reference 2016” an Amazon and you’ll find the expensive PDR and a cheap pocket guide.

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      • Fizzlecat April 18, 03:15

        Davis’ Drug Guide for Nurses is one, Nursing 2017 Drug Handbook ( older editions are available and cheaper), Saunders Nursing Drug Handbook, Lippincott Pocket Drug Guide for Nurses, Mosby’s Nursing Drug Reference. All can probably be found on Amazon.

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  10. Tab August 17, 18:13

    what kind of antibiotics should someone get if they are deathly allergic to everything in the “cillin” family?

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  11. danno August 30, 15:04

    Well, I can find 3 of these antibiotics but the clarithromycin or zithromax seem to be a bit harder to find. Any suggestions? Also, where can I find dosing instructions? I am familiar with amoxicillin as I have been prescribed this recently for a dental infection. But for the other I have no idea how much to give and when. Again, any suggestions? Thanks

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    • chad September 19, 05:03

      You can get zithromax(Azithromycin) on Ebay ; several sellers there ; GO to IN Search Put : antibiotics & you will get a list of SELLERS(MANY) !

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  12. mike January 23, 17:58

    good info but,,, what about people who are allergic
    to penicilien ????

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    • SuzyQ February 14, 00:25

      Hi Mike, If you are allergic to PCN, (penicillin) you would need to get a “Mycin” or “Sulfa” drug.
      My hubby is allergic to both PCN and Sulfa drugs so his only choice is Mycin drugs.
      Good luck.

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  13. The One March 8, 17:10

    Beware of Floxin drugs like Cipro. These are failed chemotherapy drugs re-purposed as antibiotics. They can cause sever side effects.

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    • ChilKat August 2, 09:45

      indeed, they are extremely dangerous drugs !!. They are Topoisomerase inhibitors ( every other drug described as such IS chemotherapy. ) They are chemo drugs MASQUERADING as antibiotics. They cause DNA damage. / mitochondrial toxicity, & countless people are seriously injured by them every year.
      The potential dangers of these drugs have been withheld for almost 30 years from the medical profession by big pharma, & I have personally spent the last 26 of those years dealing with the fallout, I am one of those unfortunately, permanently damaged because of them.
      The FDA has just been forced to update the warnings on them due to our advocacy, to state they can cause PERMANENT multi systemic damage .

      PLEASE beware of these particular drugs, research fluoroquinolone toxicity ( fluoroquinolone associated disability ) they are SO dangerous, have such a serious toxic profile that they should be used as a LAST RESORT ‘ antibiotic ‘, ONLY !! .

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        • cindycat7893 March 20, 17:04

          FDA and Health Canada have significant warnings for Cipro and the other fluoroquinolone antibiotics, yet their warnings fall far short of the horrific damage these drugs do. Many people diagnosed with fibro myalgia, MS, lupus, chronic fatigue and IBS are likely experiencing delayed reactions to one of these drugs. It can cause horrific debilitating pain. These adverse reactions are most often delayed even several months later, so you don’t suspect the real cause. Colloidal silver should be able to cure anthrax, and it is far safer!

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          • Judie January 24, 23:06

            I’m in shock after reading what you posted. I’ve had fibro myalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome for 25 years. I’ve had UTI’s (three or four a year) that were often treated with Cipro. Is there published scientific proof that Cipro can cause these diseases??

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      • Deb April 14, 18:03

        Thanks for sharing!!!! I try to stay away from pharma at all cost…had stockpiled Doxy back in the day and now am wondering if I just need to throw it all out (been in the refrigerator). I also have Lyme disease that is treated with Doxy..but would not risk messing up my gut microbiome with extended use.

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  14. Brum March 26, 16:54

    Hello, thanks for the post on antibiotics. May I please add a warning regarding the use of some antibiotics while taking the commonly used blood pressure medicine Amlodipine. Do not mix Amlodipine with Clarithromycin, Amoxicillin, or Omeprazole. Recent studies have found records of more than 7000 hospitalizations including several deaths from the use of amlodipine with Clarithromycin, Amoxicillin, or Omeprazole.

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  15. Dodger March 26, 18:10

    Thanks for the good, basic prepping info. Also, some info on dosages in milligrams and course duration for typical bacterial problems would be of great benefit in a SHTF scenario.

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  16. DJ May 5, 02:13

    Regarding fish antibiotics, I purchased a couple bottles of 500 mg amoxicillin awhile ago. (Fish Mox) I felt bronchitis coming on- which is something I get frequently, so I took them as directed by WebMD (Dosage amounts) Bottom line- I started feeling worse after a couple days. Then a friend of mine INSISTED that I stop taking fish antibiotics. As it turns out, a friend of hers is a veterinarian, and he informed her, that an acquaintance of his DIED from taking fish antibiotics, and that they are NOT the same as what your doctor would prescribe.

    So now… I’m really confused. Are these safe? I fully understand the importance of having antibiotics available… but I also want to keep my family safe.

    Any input would be greatly appreciated!

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    • Dr. T June 27, 16:44

      DJ, I do believe, because these abx are meant and produced for animal and not human consumption, there is a huge difference in quality of manufacturing, and are not regulated. Therefore, I would not trust my family’s or friends health to these products.

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      • DB July 19, 22:17

        Actually, they are not. I’ve used them for awhile and they actually are the same pills made for humans. You can look them up or compare them side by side and they are the same.

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    • MR September 15, 23:48

      I can’t say for certain all fish antibiotics are safe and the same as those for human consumption but I can give you my experience. A couple months ago I developed a tooth infection late on a Thursday afternoon. My dentist couldn’t see me until Monday and told me to see an emergency dentist if I needed to be see before then. The emergency dentist was over an hour away and very expensive so I pulled out the Fish Mox I had purchased for emergency situations and started taking it. By Saturday I was much better. When I saw my dentist the following Monday he prescribed me Amoxicillin and the pills were identical in color, shape, and markings as the Fish Mox had been taking. I would look up and compare any fish antibiotics to the doctor prescribed ones to be sure but it certainly seems like most are the exact same pills.

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  17. Rick May 30, 14:51

    I’m surprised no one is mentioning Colloidal Silver,My family and Friends have used it for years… It’s easily made( many simple and inexpensive generators are available for sale..) Its Very effective for a wide range of infective microbes, stores Very well..and can be taken daily as a preventive measure.

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  18. EddieW June 19, 03:17

    I got 100 amoxycillian and 6 courses of Zithromax! I buy my drugs from India, don’t need a prescription! These two are my “go to” for most problems! I used to buy from bestliferx, but found a much cheaper company!
    At one time I got Amoxicillian from Fish Here tropical fish places, usually 250MG so have to double the dose

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  19. PCMD August 2, 02:03

    My mother in law used expired anitbiotics, can not remember the name but her she looked like she had 2nd degree burns from face to toes and EVERYWHERE in between. She looked like she had been burned and all skin had come off. IT WAS HORRIBLE

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    • Brenda January 16, 19:14

      If you have side effects when taking antibiotics or any other medication stop taking them. Benadryl or its generic is helpful for allergic reactions. It can also be useful to help if you are experiencing trouble getting to sleep ( insomnia).

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  20. Deosil August 5, 20:31

    Only antibiotic I can take anymore is keflex. Which group is it in n how can I get it to stock up on?

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  21. CTWalter September 14, 15:36

    ***WARNING*** Tetracycline and any of its next gen relatives will become toxic not long after the published expiration date. Sometimes people have some around if they raise poultry. Please do not store these past expiration dates.

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    • Lisa November 30, 23:26

      Stay away from Tetracycline. I almost died over 35 years ago. When the hospital doc can’t tell you what you have, how you got it, or how you got better, that is frightening. Later found out I had a 1% negative side effect. Never again.

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  22. ladybugrules October 5, 16:16

    People need to understand that using antibiotics kills all of the flora in your body,good and bad.After a dose of these you need to feed the good flora with Yogurt,or good probiotics,or you could end up even sicker.Something good to have that nobody talks about is Diatomaceous Earth

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    • Maj. S. Ret. November 17, 04:23

      I wrote a book and 1/3rd of the book discusses many of these very medications recommended by the CDC and includes alternative herbal, holistic, meds and the last part of the book is free to all that want it. Book title is ” WMD Attacks on America,” and is available as an EBook from Amazon for about $2 or paperback for about $11.00.

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    • Archer December 11, 00:37

      Just wanted to add a comment to this, Make sure the Diatomaceous Earth you get is FOOD GRADE.

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      • SUZYQ October 28, 21:03

        Hi there,
        I have never heard of using diatomaceous Earth for anything in humans.
        I am an RN and would like to k now more about using this and for what reason. If you would be so kind as to contact me with info, would be grateful.

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        • gwinnyb November 30, 20:24

          diatomaceous earth food grade is good for parasites in animals and humans. it kills insect and their larva, thus is good for food preservation/ insect prevention. it is also good to treat internal worms and other parasites. it can be ingested if food grade and only small amounts are needed to keep parasites under control. something along the order of a teaspoon per day. I am a nurse as well as a farmer and have used food grade DE for years for my animals dry food preservation and for myself

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      • Aus Kat June 19, 01:04

        where do you get food grade? I have never seen it in Australia

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  23. Archer December 11, 00:30

    Augmentin is spelled wrong. There shouldn’t be a “g” on the end, and yes, Augmentin treats bacterial infections. (Amoxicillin) is a good antibiotic but many bacteria are resistant to this medication. Augmentin is a combination antibiotic of Amoxicillin & Clavulanate. It is Important to know that Amoxicillin is in the Penicillin family & a lot of people are allergic to Penicillin.

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  24. J in GCS January 29, 16:44

    This is great information. I have asthma and use an inhaler. Any information on obtaining and storing these?

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  25. suzie queue January 31, 01:20

    All you need is a stock of MMS (Master Mineral Solution) and a food acid (citric acid, vinegar, lemon juice) and get on the free forum to learn how to mix them and treat everything (now, before the SHTF). All it is is Sodium Chlorite and water (about 28% solution) mixed with a 50% solution of food acid and water. You would be using drops in treatment. So you need the protocol for each disease or condition (x many drops every x many hours for x many days or weeks). You can buy sodium chlorite flakes and make it yourself. You can buy citric acid or apple cider vinegar or Real Lemon for long term storage.

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  26. cw8jwh April 13, 15:02

    These drugs are all well and good, but only for the short-term.

    Can you do an article on natural antibiotics, and how to create / grow them?

    I hear fresh garlic cloves are an excellent antibiotic source.

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  27. ditch doc April 14, 14:20

    A good book to have is the US army’s special forces hand book
    how to treat how to check for stuff and drug and dose to give,even what to look for if you have a microscope

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  28. Robar April 18, 17:22

    C O L L O I D A L S I L V E R ! ! ! ! !

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    • Ozzy August 13, 12:33

      GREAT to see others KNOW about COLLOIDAL SILVER. I learned about it 14 years ago, bought and then learned HOW to create “MY OWN”. I have been sick in 14 years…”6 TIMES PERIOD” ! People, the information is available if you have internet, so “NO EXCUSES”.

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      • SUZYQ October 28, 21:05

        Would you be willing to give me any info on Colloidal Silver? What is it used for? What doses to use? Etc.

        Thanks so much

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  29. R in FW June 24, 20:47

    As for the expiration date – you ever notice the expiration date on the bottle you get from the pharm is one year after the date they fill it? A nurse friend of my told me to ask the pharm for the expiration date on the bottle they get the pill from and go by that date. Some times it’s a little longer than date on your bottle, some times it’s a lot longer.

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  30. Bushmaster0369 June 25, 18:16

    Just remember, try and rotate your medicines so the latest you receive will be the last you use. Heat the old labels and they will peal off and you can reuse them so you don’t mix any medicines, or use newer than older ones. Stay Safe.

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  31. curley August 8, 04:51

    Very informative. I do not trust what the FDA tells us anymore, they are just a big business in quest of money at our expense.

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    • Ozzy August 13, 12:29

      FDA “increased” safe levels of RADIATION as a “REACTION” to the MELTDOWN at FUKUSHIMA, (MARCH 11, 2011), SO yeah…”TRUST THEM…. not!

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  32. Ozzy August 13, 12:26

    Sounds GREAT and all, but correct me “please”, DOESN’T A DOCTOR have to WRITE A PRESCRIPTION in order TO “GET” them? I read a while back and I questioned it that we dis-guard any “OLD” ANTIBIOTICS (through with the use), SO “how” TO GET?

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  33. Curious41 October 25, 01:50

    I don’t see anyone talking about MRSA and worse. Vancomycin and gentomycin are the treatments for MRSA. Drs please update me if anything newer has been discovered. This is what was used when my husband had MRSA and later VRE which is worse than MRSA and resistant to vancomycin. Any chance of retaining these drugs? My husband’s clinic gave us multiple viles of powdered drugs with the sterile saline to treat him when needed. But he’s passed away.

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  34. Neo160 December 9, 02:29

    what about those people who are deadly allergic to any form of penicillin?

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  35. Robar December 9, 20:52

    Everyone needs to be able to make their own COLLOIDAL SILVER….it kills 0ver 650 different pathogens it kills bacteria and virus by suffocation…….you can’t build an immunity to suffocation! Most cancers are caused by bacteria.

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  36. Jim January 28, 20:22

    We go on a cruise every year and I buy my anibiotics when at port at Cozumel, Belize City, Roatan and Grand Cayman, They are around $20 a bottle over the counter.

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  37. SuzyQ February 14, 00:47

    Hi All,
    The to remember is that there are so many possible side effects to all medications. By law all of these potential side effects must be listed with any of the medications. Some people have a higher intolerance to drugs than others. Have any of you really read these adverse reactions lists that come with your RX? Just because the list is long does not mean that you will get any of the adverse reactions. You may never have any reactions.At some time in my life (80 years old) I have probably taken just about all Antibiotics out there and never had any reaction EXCEPT to Cipro. When I took Cipro developed a systemic very itchy rash.
    Most,if not all, antibiotics are failed chemo therapy drugs. Which is probably the reason they have so many adverse reactions listed.
    I have never wanted to try the “made for fish” Antibiotics, but plan on doing some research on these.
    So, I guess we all have to do what is best for each individual and hope you are doing the right thing.
    I’m not sure that I believe everything that the government tells us and that’s why I do my own research.
    Good luck to all of your.

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  38. red March 2, 02:46

    amoxicillan may be off market soon. Like DDT, it doesn’t work as it should. Doctors used to pass it our on request and that’s why. And, thanks to antibiotics used in livestock, more may be taken off market. The antibios used for livestock are different, but related.

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  39. Gremama March 4, 11:34

    Could anyone list sulfur base antibiotics to stock pile? Penicillin allergies throughout 3 family


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  40. Sonny c May 14, 22:17

    Hay thanks for the info, things we need to know, and thanks to all the commenters, a lot of good things there also, Learned quite a bit here, and you’re NEVER too old to learn. Keep up the good work.

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  41. Robar June 11, 05:13

    Research on the internet for how to make silver….the FDA hates people who ” FIX ” themselves and they are watching!!!

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  42. Ted September 15, 01:14

    Cipro is poison
    All Fluoroquinolone antibiotics function by damaging bacterial mitochondrial DNA. Problem is they do not discriminate. You will cause permanent harm to yourself taking these. The only ethical use of an FQ is when a patient is septic and all other avenues have been exhausted

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  43. Raines322 April 23, 15:52

    Where can one purchase clarithromycin in a fish/bird antibiotic? Does anyone have a recommendation for a source? I found all the others but cant find this one (at least not somewhere I feel confident is legit)

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  44. Jack Ponting April 26, 12:36

    People should have to prepare for any situation including nature’s disaster because those are unpredictable and it is all about human safety and how can people can bear of pain of losing near ones due to carelessness of their. Thanks for revealing here 15 pieces of crucial urban survival gear.


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