10 Good Spots To Hide Your Food In A Crisis

Tracy Nawara
By Tracy Nawara December 28, 2020 08:04

10 Good Spots To Hide Your Food In A Crisis

We all have our food storage for when SHTF. Some of us can live on our supply for years without outside interruption. What happens, though, when outside interruption threatens our supply? In a desperate scenario, hungry neighbors may try to force their way in to steal your food surplus.

As preppers, we are prepared for everything. Having a dedicated room in your basement or root cellar is great for storage, but it can have easy access to intruders. If a burglar finds all your food in one place, you will have to start building your surplus from the ground up, again. That is an expensive hassle if people have already resorted to stealing food in this scenario.

Instead of keeping all of your long-term non-perishables in one place, I personally like to spread out my food in different hiding places. As to not lose track of my stock, I keep a detailed list of my hiding places and what is kept there. It’s also helpful to have clearly marked expiration dates on the list as well. Keep this list easily accessible, yet locked, such as on your tablet or computer, or a physical list inside a safe.

Not to state the obvious, but please keep in mind obvious fire hazards when storing. Cardboard or wood boxes of food will not fare well next to electrical wires, etc. If your hiding spots are under floorboards or behind walls, they should be 100% critter-free. Just ensure you inspect your hiding places well before storing.

Here are some of my favorite inconspicuous hiding places for non-perishable food.

A Hidden Room

10 Good Spots To Hide Your Food In A CrisisLike me, you may know your way around a home project. Home invaders will never be able to find a stash if the room is completely concealed, and most homes do not come with hidden rooms upon purchase (unless you’re lucky).

Tons of homes have “dead space” between walls, leaving a few feet here and there of unused square footage. These spaces can be dug out, reframed, and have shelves added. To conceal the room completely, a bookshelf or cabinet can hide the entrance to your new hidden food storage.

Emergency Shelter

If you live in a tornado area, you may already have an underground storm shelter. Food surplus can easily be stored in these areas. Since they are underground, the humidity levels should be optimal for keeping food.

Store it under benches or up on shelves. It is also a great idea to have sustenance during increasingly dangerous weather in your climate.

Under Stairwells

10 Good Spots To Hide Your Food In A CrisisOften, there is a ton of unused space underneath the stairwell of your basement or first floor to second floor.

This is a great opportunity to store food, as this space is typically dry and temperature controlled. I like to store food at the very back wall of the stairwell, and store household furniture and other things to conceal the food behind it.

Survival Caches

All along your property, you can dig some proper storage caches in case SHTF. All cache containers withstand moisture, critters, elements, and temperature. The hardest part is remembering where you buried them!

Related: How To Make A Survival Cache And What To Put In It

Closets

10 Good Spots To Hide Your Food In A CrisisSure, storing food in a closet may be obvious. But it’s the location inside the closet that you need to pay attention to.

Boxes of non-perishables can be stored under hanging coats in your coat closet. The high shelves on top of most closets often go unused, making them the perfect place to store lighter items, such as lighter bags or vacuum-sealed foods.

Rental Storage Unit

You should never store all of your food in one place at home, just in case your home is destroyed or robbed. Having some food surplus in a storage unit is a great idea if your house is threatened.

You can find rentals that are temperature controlled and reputable. Some are even elevated in the off-chance the unit has a critter or two. The unit should also be well-shaded and facing away from direct sunlight.

Bug Out Location

10 Good Spots To Hide Your Food In A CrisisIf you are fortunate enough to have a location that your family retreats to in a global emergency, be sure you have a rotation of non-perishables hidden in that location. This way, if family members must run, packing food is one less item on their mind.

Sharing this space with trusted family members and friends is beneficial in case someone is in trouble. All members should agree to keep up with adding to the stock as they take.

Galvanized Steel Garbage Cans

These garbage cans store some items very well, such as dried beans or grains. They can be kept in a garage, basement, or barn and will keep temperature and moisture optimal. If you are a pet owner, this is also a great place to store excess pet food. Use brand new cans, with the food in mylar bags containing oxygen absorbers.

Related: How To Understand The Signals From Animals Just Before A Natural Disaster Strikes

In The Ground

10 Good Spots To Hide Your Food In A CrisisHow do you store food in your own garden? During the winter months in cold weather regions, root vegetables can be stored right in the ground after harvest.

Vegetables that can be stored this way range from beets, to carrots, to potatoes. Check frequently to ensure the veggies are free from rot or critters.

Chamber

The guest bedroom/home office is a great place to hide food. Non-perishables can go inside a desk or be stacked inside the closet. Storage shelves can also hide extra food without being in plain sight.

Some Places You Should NEVER Store Food Are:

  • The attic – hot temperatures fluctuate during the summer, spoiling all of your food.
  • A crawl space – critters can easily penetrate these and crawl spaces typically get warm in the summer.
  • The shed or barn – again, temperature and rodent control is too difficult here.
  • Near chemicals or excess fuel. Just don’t do it.

We all have excess food storage to sustain ourselves in case of an emergency, but keeping some hidden food elsewhere will ensure you have enough in a crisis.

It is never fun to think about the what if’s, such as what if I’m robbed? What if my food supply is compromised? If that is the case, being prepared on all fronts will secure our safety.

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  1. Illini Warrior December 28, 14:17

    good chance if food is an issue – it’ll also be a grid down situation and your whole house furnace will be inactive …

    metal supply ductwork provides a host of food cache possibilities >>> however would AVOID the old standard practice of removing wall vent covers and using that eazy accessable ductwork ….

    the main supply ductwork is usually fairly large in dimension – sometimes as much as 12″ X 36″ – and there will be an end cap or two giving full access >> add some additional support to handle the cache weight and you’re in biz ….

    in addition – a 2 story home will have a register supply run for each room that’s close to 18 feet long- perfect cache spot for pouring in loose grain and beans …

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    • Farmer December 28, 14:34

      I prefer to hide my food behind an AR with 10 extra loaded mags. Hard to disguise 5 years of food in my 320 square foot dwelling.

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      • Illini Warrior December 28, 16:45

        after the local gooberment enacts emergency power to the local LEO Chief to deputize any hungry azz yahoo to raid homes and shoot homeowners >> they’ll be taking that AR also

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        • Farmer December 28, 22:10

          Nah, won’t happen here in the south. Our sheriff and deputies are Americans and Patriots and good old boys. We all hunt together, fish together and at one time or another dated the same women. So, it ain’t gonna happen here. If it might where you live, I’d consider moving!

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          • red December 30, 12:45

            Farmer: Our sheriff and most deputies, most state highway patrol, as well, are conservatives. But, one military unit can replace the police in an emergency. Martial law has been put in effect 64 times by the feds for a variety of reasons, tho never nation-wide. Consider the lunatics claiming to be president and vp.
            BTW, biden called harris the president-elect.
            niio
            Hidden places guarded by ground red pepper, bay leaves, and other things should stay safe for 6 months to a year. Much of the garden is planted in root crops like sunchokes and yucca, some scarlet runner beans (beans from the vines, a tuber from the roots).
            Right now, our early spring, a lot of ornamentals will go in. ‘Flowering’ cabbage/kale (greens taste the same 🙂 safflower (tasty seeds and varmint proof thorns), wolfberries (American goji), saltbrush, and so on. niio

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            • Counterpoint January 4, 01:00

              Let’s do some numbers … US military is about, i don’t know … maybe 3 mil…. population of demonrat run cities .. maybe 100 million … san fran, ny, la, chiraq,… how many uniform wearing military are going to open fire ??? 99%, 50%, 10%? .. my oath NEVER expired …. neither did theirs …

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          • Illini Warrior December 30, 17:13

            famous last words from around the world >> the WW2 Euro Jews and American Japanese thought the same thing of their local gooberments before the concentration camp gates closed on them ….

            desperate people look out for themselves FIRST & ONLY – be a prepper and be desperate enough to watch your 6 o’clock at all times ….

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      • ST January 4, 00:14

        I hear you. My place is too small to hide anything larger than a book!

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        • red January 5, 14:35

          ST: do you have walls? What’s between the studs? In the ceiling? Under the floorboards? any yard space? A lot of vegetables come disguised as ornamentals today, or houseplants. niio

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          • ST January 5, 16:57

            red;
            Most of the walls are CBS. Floors, ceiling are solid concrete. It’s an apartment and I know the owner, so out of respect I won’t do much remodeling. I also have no yard, so burying is out. My supplies are mostly stacked in containers ready to go-if there’s a serious fire in another unit, or the roof fails, or if the sewage fails, or trash collection stops, there’ll be no choice but to evacuate. I am working on owning my own home. My preference is to build the shell myself, so I can build these kinds of things into it rather than retrofit them.

            Apartment living is the pits!

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            • Miss Kitty January 5, 19:56

              ST:
              I’m in the same situation, but public housing, so absolutely no way to do reno.
              That being said, you still have your furniture.
              Look at putting stuff under the bed, in the headboard, in bookcases, closets, drawers. (Betcha nobody is going to look through your drawers unless they have a warrant.)
              Under/inside the couch, tv cabinet… anywhere you have a space, you can hide a can or two or some ammo. Money can be taped behind pictures or put inside a curtain rod.
              The key is to put small amounts of stuff in multiple locations and keep track of what is where. Keep grains accessable so you can check frequently for infestation.

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              • red January 6, 19:36

                Miz Kitty: Food grade diatomaceous earth is 15 bucks for 20 lbs at Tractor Supply down here. And, any grain products must be frozen up to a week to kill pest eggs. If you like hot peppers, the flakes will chase rodents from it while they scream in pain.

                And, something very good happened. a prayer is answered. A neighbor down the road has Mexican domesticated nopal (prickly pear) cactus. No thorns but it does have glochids (hair-fine thorns). Because it’s been so dry, his are dropping pads. They get up to 18 inches long, a foot wish and an inch thick. the fruit is twice the size of wild nopaol. I saw him cleaning it up and asked if I could have it for mulch. “Sure, man, y’all take what you want, amigo.” I did and hauled off two wheelbarrow loads and most of the pads are still green, meaning they can be planted. Prayer answered. I wanted a few, at least, to add to the food forest. Wow! niio!

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            • red January 6, 19:28

              ST: sounds like a plan! Meanwhile, Miz Kitty is very wise and knowledgeable. Always good advice there. Are you ex-military? That’s how I got my place. I could have had 160 acres with trailer, but at the time it was against their regs. Now? &(%$*. niio My best to you!

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              • ST January 6, 19:53

                red
                Sadly, I am pure civvy. I wasn’t anywhere athletic enough to join.
                The Nopal is so easy to grow. If the soil is right, you can drop a pad on the ground and it will grow an entire tree in time. I grew one as an ornamental and it became a chore! Very nice to look at. I had neighbors that would harvest from mine for recipes.

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                • red January 7, 00:17

                  ST: Darn shame. Still, if you can, try to find a place of your own. Yeah, I planted about 20 of the pads today. Pick work to break up caliche. But, they prefer to root horizontal rather than deep. We go thru half of a quart to a quart a day. while they’re not pricey down here, at 1.86 a quart, it adds up.Even here, the fruit is expensive and it goes well in tea and such. half a cut to 5 cups water. niio

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    • Farmer December 28, 22:02

      Might be a good way to contaminate otherwise good food. Ductwork is going to be full of dust, mold and other nasties. There is unlimited space in most homes between the studs in interior walls. Cutting out the sheetrock along the studs, install 1 by or 2 by shelves. Replace the sheetrock, trim it out with molding (do several cutouts) paint the molding a contrasting color and it will look like a design feature. Standard cans will fit nicely in the 3 1/2″ depth.

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      • City Chick December 28, 22:51

        Farmer – Excellent advice here. European bathrooms have what they call access panels. They enable one to access plumbing if there is a need to without busting up tile/walls. Many areas of one’s home could even be retro fitted with thicker walls that have access panels. They do that all the time over there in castles and manor houses. Why not do it in ours?

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  2. A. E. December 28, 14:44

    How about using a closet, then positioning a shelf unit in front of the door, with non-essentials on the shelves… books etc. One would need to move the shelves to see the closet door.

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  3. City Chick December 28, 16:46

    Some of this info seems a bit contradictory, but I assume the writer is just trying to give a heads up to alert folks to what may become potential problems overtime with respect to specific storage locations. In addition to electrical, I would add plumbing as a caution to selecting storage in areas in one’s home. Water does a lot of damage be it a slow leak or a burst pipe. With respect to keeping an inventory. There are only two ways to protect information, vaulting and duplication. With vital records, it’s best to do both in more than one location.

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  4. Spike December 28, 17:32

    Under stairs would be the first place invaders would look for a secret cache.
    Does anyone have a link to constructing secret doors to secret rooms? Most I’ve seen are not very well hidden.

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    • Miss Kitty December 28, 20:44

      If you don’t need to access it often, you might be able to hide the door behind a bookcase. If you are able to put it on casters, you’ll be able to slide it out of the way easily. Just be sure that the rollers don’t mark up your floor.
      For that matter, you can put some shelf stable goods behind the books in the bookcase itself. Be sure to check for leakage and insects frequently in either case.

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      • Spike December 29, 02:03

        Furniture gliders can do miraculous feats. Put a large cupboard in front of a door and if you have short knapped thick carpet you can slide the cupboard on the carpet out of the way of the door. I moved a 2000 lb safe maybe 60′ across the house by sliding it across carpet by myself. Used a come-along if it worked but did a lot of it without any assistance. I was younger than. A couple big guys would had done it easily. The bigger the gliders, the better.

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    • City Chick December 28, 21:54

      Spike – If it’s something you find online, everybody knows about it. Better to focus on improving your construction, carpentry skills and come up with something that works well in your own space for your own purpose. Food for thought – Years ago my uncle, who was a police commissioner, told me that no matter what you do, they can get in. The only thing you can do is make it as difficult as possible.

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    • ST January 4, 00:13

      Retrofitting hidden rooms is a far greater challenge than building into a new structure. I’ve seen some oddball layouts here and there that could take a small hidden room. For some, the only option is building an addition. Part of the problem with that is codes will likely require this room to have proper egress. In this case, you’d have to be ready to install a nice window or door for Mr. Codeman to see, then remove it and turn the opening back into wall when you’ve been approved. PITA. Worth it, though, if you can get it done.

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  5. The Duke of Texas December 28, 18:30

    There is one additional area for long term storage of canned food and suitable containers for grains and even canned water ( acquire from life raft companies ). That is within the walls of your domicile. Remove the drywall and store the cans and containers on the studs. Replace the drywall and paint. Best done in a closet where access can be unobserved. This is basic handyman skill set. If you don’t know how, learn.

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  6. Miss Kitty December 28, 20:48

    In the dirty clothes hamper under your foul socks.
    In the linen closet behind/under sheets and towels.
    Under the bed or in the closet in a plastic tub marked “Christmas Decorations”. “Summer Toys” or “Taxes – 1985-1992”.

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    • Farmer January 3, 23:37

      Miss Kitty …. lovely idea ….but how do you hid 700-800 no.. 2 1/2 and number 10 cans in a tax tub? We’re in this for the long haul ….

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    • Miss Kitty January 4, 08:10

      Farmer:
      Ha! I guess you are! I was thinking more about the urban prepper in a small apartment who is just prepping for one or two people, but in your case, I would suggest two or more dedicated storage places around your property.
      Assuming that you are able to control the moisture level adequately, a root cellar or basement “secret room” might be a good bet. If you can, a similar set up under various out buildings will keep your preps together for easy access, yet separate and concealed for security.
      If you are super ambitious, you can dig tunnels from one to the other. Think of the old tv series “Hogan’s Heroes’ – there were more concealed rooms and tunnels than there were buildings up top!
      Bear in mind that with Google Earth and drones the “Eye In The Sky” (Alan Parsons Project) is a reality more than ever – perhaps covering surface excavation with ghillie nets suspended from some sort of supports would help.
      Hopefully my thoughts have sparked some ideas, or at least given you a chuckle.😘

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  7. clergylady December 28, 22:39

    I have outdoor cats. Keep them on the hungry side so they will hunt. Its cooler in summer under my home than in it.
    Many good ideas on how to make room. My end tables are 5 gallon pasteboard shipping containers. They cost me $5 each. They can hold a lot of pasta, rice, beans or just my knitting. In a small home space is at a premium.

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  8. Steve December 29, 00:27

    Be observant; and be creative, One of my coworkers sold a house; realizing later he had left behind a dozen or so spare mags and a brass catcher. He called the new owner and asked her to check……”on the third step riser. push in on the riser and down on the fourth tread at the same time” The 4th through ninth steps lifted up on a counterweight in the wall giving around 20 square ft of storage. Might sound like a trifle, but how much space does the family treasure really take up?
    No details on the latch or counterweight but the lady and her husband had been there for several months and never suspected….

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    • Illini Warrior December 29, 14:54

      if you sell a home – I’d be showing the new owners the ins & outs of the home <<<>>> – it’s like giving them the combination numbers to that monster basement gun safe you sold with the home …

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  9. IvyMike December 29, 00:37

    You can make permanent underground storage containers using 6″ diameter SDR35 plastic drain pipe. It’s affordable, use 2 foot lengths and the solvent weld caps. Glue the caps on correctly and it will never leak. You’ll want a power saw to cut it square. I don’t think there is anywhere in a house you can successfully hide food from a gang of starving neighbors, Farmer probably has it right in his post, you give up your house you’re probably not getting it back.

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  10. To The Right of Attila the Hun December 29, 17:58

    The storage container is a great idea. If it’s large enough one could have a small trailer packed and ready to roll. two trailers if you have a couple of vehicles that are set up to toe.
    I used 2×6 for one wall in my chicken coop and built shelves between the studs and put plywood walls with a minimum number of screws to hold the plywood in place. But be sure to package things very well, for obvious reasons!!!

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  11. Miss Kitty December 31, 22:40

    I saw a picture some time back of a built in sofa in a tiny house that not only had storage underneath but in the back and arms. Small spaces to be sure, but good for money, firearms or extra Spam.

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  12. Red ant January 1, 13:16

    A cemetery is a good place to hide your food guns and a lot more if you want.
    Would you look there.

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    • red January 1, 18:06

      Ant: I would. Cemeteries are popular for people who trace old headstones, hunt for nightcrawlers, mushroom hunters and so on. Every weekend people will be there to visit graves, and many to care for them.
      One place, the family had all moved away and no one bothered to pay someone to care for theirs, and coffins started to work their way out of the ground. The state sued over it and won. The remains were hauled off.
      You’ll find most night time visits to a cemetery are met with cops. Satanists and others are always eager to take skulls and even entire bodies.
      Some cemeteries don’t allow visitors. If you get cause, you get arrested. Indian Town Gap, where Dad is, they have a place to put flowers and so on. The stones are buried with a nameplate att he top, and that’s it.
      niio

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      • Red ant January 1, 18:35

        Red:

        I agree with that, but I’m not talking in the grave area. I’m talking around the cemetery area. don’t do it if people are present.

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        • Miss Kitty January 1, 18:51

          Red and Red Ant:
          Where I live, cemeteries are often places where kids go to party at night, so the cops have them on their radar and may (or may not, depending) do regular security sweeps. A nice, securable mausoleum, now.. that might work as an emergency bol. At least they are closed in and have a roof, but be sure you can get out if you close the door.

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          • red January 2, 05:18

            Miz Kitty: I prefer to stay away from places like that these days. They’re always watched, often by the sort you do not want to cross. The older the cemetery, then who watch. Aside from that, there’s the disease factor. niio

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            • Miss Kitty January 2, 12:45

              True, Red. Although for short term in a dire emergency, it may work – if the mausoleum is that of an honored ancestor and you behave respectfully at all times, those who may remain might give refuge for a few hours. I would check it out well in advance. Depends on how resentful they are to be dead – if they were old and died peacefully in their sleep they might be more receptive than someone who was hanged at thirty for murdering someone over a card game, for instance.. Again, I would research it well in advance and if you get any bad vibes I wouldn’t do it.
              As for the disease factor, a lot depends on how well the crypts and individual coffins were maintained. If everything is still intact, it might be worth the risk. That’s one of many reasons I prefer cremation. I would double wrap anything I need to leave in any drop point in plastic, and wearing a good quality facemask in an enclosed space like that would be a necessity. I’m very allergic to mold and mildew and probably wouldn’t spend that much time in such a location unless I really had to. I also would suggest checking the causes of death of the occupants. I read a very good sci-fi novel some time back about a team of archaeologists who inadvertently released an unknown strain of what seemed to be pneumonic plague when they dug up and we’re examining remains from the twelfth century – I think it was called The Doomesday Book. They caused a pandemic that had a death rate of ninety percent – yet another reason to avoid messing around with the dead.
              However, if you are truly desperate, it’s an option albeit a poor one.
              Our ancestors weren’t stupid people…there were good reasons for avoiding the dead and we would be smart to realize that science can’t explain everything.

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              • red January 2, 23:42

                ClergyLady: The author is Connie Willis.
                No, our ancestors were far from stupid. In fact, they’re considered sharper than we are.Healthier, and many would have passed the century mark in better shape then us had they today’s knowledge.
                Edicts from the old days about not playing with the dead came about from experience. SHTF, a lot of oddballs are going to come out of the woodwork, wannabe witches and so on. Real Wicca and others are preppers and I seriously doubt they’ll tolerate the fakes for long.
                The wannabes are going to ‘haunt’ the dead seeking power. I’ve seen them do that now, usually abandoned cemeteries. If the dead pile up, they might be happy with that, but still they’ll damage what they can.
                niio

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            • red ant January 2, 14:47

              I find it hard to belive that there is so much going on in a cemetery that there would not be any time to hide some stuff around there. If your scared then don’t do it. But the question was to find good places to hide stuff. I guess it there are party’s and people all over the place and all hours of the night then surly I hope you are smart enough not to hide stuff there but we’re I live none of that crap gose on that I can see. The disease factor, can’t say I would belive that but if you are digging up some dead person to hide your stuff in there, well good luck with that.
              If you think that some one might steal your stuff. Remember the dead don’t need it.
              There are other places to hide stuff, just thought that might be a good area to hide some stuff around there. Was not thinking about the dead, disease, people running around and people hunting for stuff all hours of the night and day. Sorry…

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              • red January 5, 15:14

                red ant: why the apology? It’s a good idea, with caution.

                How many occultists do you know? You’d be surprised how popular cemeteries are with a whole lot of people, not just those who’s religion takes them there in the dark of night.

                If friends with an undertaker or owner of a private cemetery, wow, think of the possibilities.Gun-runners, drug dealers, bank robbers have all used cemeteries. How many cases of ammo or weapons can be fitted into a coffin-sized crate? Know any gravediggers who will keep their mouths shut? Yeah, “Oops, we went down a few feet too far. Got anything, RA, to fill the hole before we pour the slab?” I would not store food. The cement isn’t reinforced and would damage cans and plastic. Because the coffin is in concrete and sealed, there shouldn’t be too much a problem getting under it. niio

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  13. Omega 13 January 2, 20:45

    The problem with storing food in your storage area or bugout site is that you might not be able to get to them. I’m thinking more of the storage unit.

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  14. red ant January 3, 16:55

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    I can tell you, that I will at any time use all parts of any location what ever it may be. BUT in saying that, I will respect any place as I do my own and especially where the dead have there final resting place. If you find your self in a grid down or SHTF scenario, use all you need BUT we can still show respect to others and places that we use for shelter or stash supplies.

    We really don’t no what we will do at the time of a SHTF scenario. Be trueful. Who has lived through a real SHTF scenario in the USA. I’m not talking this crap that has happened last year. I’m talking a full scale WAR… You can have the best intentions to have a plane. But you may open your door and get smoked right in the face by a scum bag. What then.

    Only older folks that went thru the depression did fill the hardship of a country that was in bad shape. All my old family have all died and we have not seen anything like that since.

    The depression was not even a war.

    Yes when I was a little boy it felt like that time was still going on but we were just poor. Lol A lot of people have never felt what it is to work from sun up to sun down and get little to eat. I seen my mom not eat so we would have what little there was. Y’all know what I mean. Those that live then and some still do today. Very sad.
    What I am saying is use all that you will need at that time and show some RESECT to where you are and even where your storing stuff.
    Scout out the area that you might want to stay or stash stuff at.
    Lose lips sink ships and eyes are every where today. so tell no one about your stash. Only the true one you can trust. You will be surprised who will turn on you when times get that bad. Keep an EYE out for SPYES and scum bags and yes even family members who ever they may be and your neighbor, especially your neighbor…
    Trust will be life…

    Sorry for the rant.

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    • Farmer January 3, 21:28

      Beware of old men who come from a profession where young men die!

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    • Miss Kitty January 3, 23:08

      Red Ant:
      You’re absolutely right, and no apologies are necessary.
      I’m just brainstorming ideas, and hoping that something that I come up with will be of some use to someone, if only to spark their own ideas.
      As far as not having lived through a war, well, thank God we haven’t so far. But we can learn from those who have. Personal accounts like you can find at prepper website The Organic Prepper are eye-opening, and the men who are featured contributors are very frank about what they witnessed. I don’t care much for the site overall as it’s been trending very liberal over the last year, but there is some excellent information there.
      Another source is first hand accounts from the US Civil War, like what were featured on Ken Burns’ excellent mini series on PBS. Say what you will about the liberal agenda pushed by PBS, this was a good use of funds and I highly recommend it. There are also reference materials available online and in libraries. I haven’t checked it out, but there are probably videos on YouTube as well.
      We should all learn from the past while we can, before the Ministry of History rewrites everything.

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    • red January 5, 09:58

      red ant: Not a rant, but a good post. niio

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  15. ST January 4, 00:15

    I don’t trust rental units, at all. Personal experience.

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  16. red ant January 4, 00:44

    Will they have other means to locate your stuff.

    Dogs
    Metal detectors
    Sniffing device
    Kids
    wifes
    husbands
    family members
    Phone
    TV
    GPS location
    ETC:
    Or will they just kick the door in

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    • Miss Kitty January 4, 08:22

      Red Ant:
      You forgot the latest in “stab yourself in the eye, do their dirty work for them” surveillance – namely nanny cams, ring and Alexa. You are now being surveiled by anyone who can access your computer or smart phone (which is our government, other governments and the ten year old hacker down the block) plus you get to pay for the privilege!
      Honestly, how dumb has the human race gotten?

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      • red January 5, 14:32

        Miz Kitty: Most known civilizations committed suicide.

        I had a nice 4 years with little harassment. Emails went to the recip right on them. Mail arrived fast, for snailmail. Now back to Carter’s ugly hate if biden and harris get in. 3 days for emails to get thru. weeks for letters. Packages rifed thru. the phone making those funny clicks and buzzes, again. Life on the Far side thanks the dnc/kkk=nazi party usa. do not never ever go redskin. Up in the Northeast, you could wind up the latest dem ‘good-injun’. haw’, niio!

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    • red January 5, 14:24

      red ant: Look at the crap in NYC and LA. How many were arrested for attending a party? Why are people chancing going out? they’re in revolt and that;’s something no dictator dares stand for. niio

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  17. City Chick January 4, 01:15

    Miss Kitty – Ken Burns is a die hard NYC liberal making tons of money off of the taxpayer backs by being totally funded by PBS. Good you at least got something out of the show be cause you already paid the price of admission.

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