The most important thing you should know about antibiotics!
Never expect a doctor to phone-in a prescription for an antibiotic without seeing you first. Why? To ensure your illness is in fact a bacterial infection, as viruses do not respond to antibiotics.
For example Influenza is a virus infection – this is why your doctor will never prescribe you antibiotics for this.
Knowing the difference between a viral and bacterial illness may save you time and money. Here are four tips to help you determine when an illness could be viral or bacterial. Take this advice only when you can’t see a doctor (when SHTF):
- Location: A viral illness typically causes wide-spread symptoms. A bacteria usually causes site-specific symptoms, such as those involving the sinuses, throat, or chest.
- Phlegm color: A virus may produce clear or cloudy mucous, if any. A bacterial illness typically causes colored phlegm (green, yellow, bloody or brown-tinged).
- Duration of illness: Most viral illnesses last 2 to 10 days. A bacterial illness commonly will last longer than 10 days.
- Fever. A viral infection may or may not cause a fever. A bacterial illness notoriously causes a fever (normal body temperature is 98.6, a fever is considered greater than 100 degrees Fahrenheit).
If you are diagnosed with a bacterial illness, typical antibiotic treatment is 10 to 14 days.
A person is no longer considered contagious once on an antibiotic for 24 hours and any fever has been resolved. (Source – Dr. Linda Petter)
If your symptoms do not resolve, or if at any time you develop a severe headache or neck pain, persistent nausea / vomiting or a fever, be sure to see a doctor promptly.
What Antibiotics to Stockpile
No antibiotic is effective against every type of microbe. Certain ones will kill aerobic bacteria, others are used for anaerobic bacteria, still others are effective against resistant strains, and certain people are allergic to or intolerant of various antibiotics.
Instead of buying 10 types of antibiotics (many having similar substances) you should consider 4-5 with totally different actions, so if the bacteria is resistant to one of them, you have 4 totally different “solutions” to try.
This, of course, only if you don’t have access to a clinic where they can test the bacterial resistance to these antibiotics first.
For example if you took Amoxicillin with no effect, there is no need to try other penicillin based antibiotics (Carbenicillin, Cloxacillin, Flucloxacillin, Oxacillin, Methicillin an so on) so you can exclude a wide range.
But the antibiotics listed bellow should work for most bacterial diseases, including Most Common Biological Weapons (like Anthrax – 90% mortality without treatment in the first 3-6 days).
The 4 Antibiotics You’ll Need
1. Amoxicillin
Amoxicillin is a penicillin antibiotic used to treat many different types of infection caused by bacteria, such as tonsillitis, bronchitis, pneumonia, gonorrhea, and infections of the ear, nose or throat.
Amoxicillin is also sometimes used together with another antibiotic called clarithromycin – the second one – to treat stomach ulcers caused by Helicobacter pylori infection.
Update – at the suggestion of Dr. M (comment area): Augmenting is also a very good option. It’s basically an upgraded amoxicillin (contains amoxicillin + clavulanate potassium) but with increased (mild) side-effects: stomach discomfort with mild cramping and diarrhea. I know it’s OK for most of people. I personally tried it 2 times and I had the bad luck of happening to me.
Related: Meds Stockpile For a Crisis
2. Clarithromycin
Clarithromycin is a macrolide antibiotic. It fights bacteria in your body.
Clarithromycin is used to treat many different types of bacterial infections affecting the skin and respiratory system. If the bacteria seems to be resistant to Amoxicillin, this is the next best thing one should try when SHTF.
Contains Erythromycin and can be substituted with. Don’t take both antibiotics at the same time.
Update – at the suggestion of Dr. M (comment area): Zithromax (also a macrolide antibiotic) is a very good (better in many ways) substitute for Clarithromycin. But it is less active against Helicobacter pylori.
3. Ciprofloxacin
Ciprofloxacin is an antibiotic in a group of drugs called fluoroquinolones.
Ciprofloxacin is useful for anthrax, urinary tract and prostate infections, diverticulitis and many forms of pneumonia and bronchitis.
Related: The Only Meds That You Need To Stockpile for SHTF
4. Metronidazole
Metronidazole belongs to a class of antibiotics known as nitroimidazoles.
Metronidazole is used to treat parasitic and bacterial infections including Giardia infections of the small intestine, colon infections, liver abscess, vaginal infections (not yeast), fungating wounds, intra-abdominal infections, lung abscess and gingivitis.
How to store antibiotics?
Every antibiotic has its own particular decay rate, as proteins (oligopeptides) are subject to hydrolyzation, the main form of attack (heat and moisture are the enemy).
So, if you plan on long term storage, the individual foil packs are the best choice. Then pack them in sealed containers with dessicants to be sure.
For how long is it still safe to take antibiotics after the expiration date?
The American Medical Association (AMA) conducted a study and concluded that the actual shelf life of some products is longer than the labeled expiration date.
Manufacturers put expiration dates on for marketing, rather than scientific, reasons,” said Mr. Flaherty, a formal pharmacist at the FDA. “It’s not profitable for them to have products on a shelf for 10 years. They want turnover.”
With time, most antibiotics simply become less effective.
So maybe the question should be “for how long these antibiotics are expected to still have effects?”
Amoxicillin (tablets) – 5 years after the expiration date;
Clarithromycin and Doxycycline (tablets) – 5 years after the expiration date;
Ciprofloxacin (tablets) – 10 years after the expiration date;
Metronidazole (tablets) – 3 years after expiration date;
I hope you found this information useful. This is a guest post from Dr. S. Flint.
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How and where can you get these meds since most dr will not just fill them so you can stock them up
Thanks laurel
What products can be substituted for them and were would i get them.
Many pet and aquarium supply stores stock “Fish” antibiotics. The name of them is an indication of what actual drug they are.. Fish-Mox for example is Amoxicillin, etc.. These are the exact same perscription dugs sold in a pharmacy under a doctor’s prescription, same marking on the pill etc.. They just package their overstock as a petcare product. You can often times find bottles of 100+ for under $20USD.
Fish Meds ( Dr Joe Alton and Nurse Amy website ) …. http://www.doomandbloom.net/
THANK YOU! My wife mentioned this, I did forget, I read about this a LONG LONG TIME ago. DO you have any “websites”, I really prefer ordering online.
Yes try Walmart.com
re: ‘Fish-biotics’ – make SURE that the ones you buy are made in the Same ‘big name’ labs as are those made for People (ie: Lilly, Bayer, etc) Last thing you want are ‘Made in China’ (or other sub-standard health-reg countries.._) antibiotics.. that – surprize! – you find out later are really Not ‘safe for humans’ (trace lead, mercury, etc, from manuf. or processing plants) Word to yo mama..
Except that the vast majority of antibiotics sold by “the big U.S. companies” are imported from China. Yep! The active ingredient most likely came from China. We barely produce ANY antibiotics in the U.S. anymore.
Trump has instructed the pharmaceutical companies to pick up the slack and produce our antibiotics.
Myself and people I know have pennacilan allergies. What other antibiotics can I get for people with pennacilan allergies?
Any of the Erythromycin based drugs are what you want. My father was allergic to penicillin and he was always prescribed a …mycin family of drug.
I am deathly allergic to Penicillin & Amoxicillin and all related… I also don’t take Biaxin – bad reaction to that too. I have been given Keflex and other antibiotics, but only when I really need them. It’s not a good idea to take antibiotics (or use soaps with antibiotics…) because bacteria have such a short lifespan, they can adapt and become resistant quickly and then you have superbugs that antibiotics aren’t effective against…
Most are manufactured in India by the big drug companies. They are shipped back here for packaging.
I found I was able to purchase everything I needed, Amoxicillin, Ciproflouxetine and Keflex® at Chewy.com.
Prices very reasonable.
Most importantly; all items are usually in stock
Dont they require a veterinary prescription ?
They have never asked me for one – neither has Tractor Supply Company refridgerated medicine cooler operator . Guess I’d say no
But we will be manufacturing our own meds here in America, if Trump is re elected, no problem, if the dems get in, would probably be of great concern. Just sayin.
Subsequent to the advent of Covid-19 it was disclosed that most antibiotics prescribed in the US are made in China which means the big name brands also.
What site can I buy them
What is the shelf life if frozen and does freezing affect potency? Thanks.
Sounds gross but fish antibiotics can be taken for humans.
Researchit before trying however!
Fish antibiotics are perfectly fine for people. When I was young, back in the late 70’s my parents owned a pet store. Me and my brother used to get strep throat at least twice a year… my mom asked our doctor if it was ok and he said yes its fine and cheaper than an rx for the same thing… He let us know how much to take and for how long… So that’s what we did for years.
I go to Puerto Vallarta Mexico every year for vacation. All of these antibiotics as well as most other prescription drugs, are available in local pharmacies, without prescription, for a fraction of the US cost. All made by the same manufacturers as in the US.
Can you bring them back into the US without an issue?
Yes. You can only buy for yourself, not a spouse, child, etc and no more than 3 months supply. You don’t need a prescription for antibiotics and most other drugs, but you can’t buy adderal, zoloft, diet pills or other meds of that type. When crossing back into the states, the border agents will ask what you bought and may ask to look in your bag. If you have something illegal, or too many of a drug, they will take it and you don’t get a refund. Dental work and prescription glasses are really cheap too andI have found that most dentists are trained in the states.
Laurel, Your point is well made! I was an Army medic and am an advocate of natural healing! For me, I use colloidal silver. It is well documented to kill over 650 known bacteria. It is anti-viral, anti- inflammatory and anti-fungal! It is easy to make it yourself, too! It is very cheap to make! Essential oils are extremely powerful as well! To your health!!! Merry Christmas!
Would appreciate your advice. I am totally ignorant with regards to colloidal silver so I’m not isn disagreement or anything. With that said:
What is your response to the FDA comment:
“over-the-counter drug products containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts for internal or external use are not generally recognized as safe and effective and are misbranded…products containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts are being marketed for numerous serious disease conditions and FDA is not aware of any substantial scientific evidence that supports the use of over-the-counter colloidal silver or ingredients or silver salts for these disease conditions.”
The FDA is staffed by harmaceutical employees!
How do you make Colloidal Silver?
Where can you buy it?
How do you use it?
Thx
Linda
Calvetsuppy.com make sure you buy the fish antibiotics. They are the same thing we take. They are made by Thompson Labs. Used them for years.
I found I was able to purchase everything I needed, Amoxicillin, Ciproflouxetine and Keflex® at Chewy.com.
Prices very reasonable.
Most importantly; all items are usually in stock
Check veterinarian sites that sell fish meds. They are the same as human meds
What if a person needs to stockpile antidepressants no one mention anything about this.
Like Wellbutrin, ext and other like migraines prevention meds that can not be stopped.
How do we get these to stock pile?
I too would like to know where you can get some of these antibiotics for long term storage. No doctor will write you a script nor will insurance pay for such a large variety of antibiotics.
I’ll write an article on this. There are countries where you can buy antibiotics (the same antibiotics we have here) without prescription. Maybe I’ll find a connection or some trustworthy websites where you can buy them (if it’s legal – I don’t know). I bought Ciprofloxacin and Amoxicillin from Mexico.
hi there, I am greek and here in Greece all the drugs are free to buy (if you can afford them) except for those that can cause addiction to the patient (narcotics, sleeping disorder peels etc)
@ C. Davis – Yes – ie: In Central America, you can walk into Any pharmacy and, ‘OTC’ get just about Any antibiotic that’s made (and they stock..) – CHEAP! – and with No ‘script’. If you’ve got friends or family in such a country, they CAN mail you those, but. Fair warning: a) Don’t Order a TON at a time! Packages can / do get inspected in customs, and a ‘Large amount’ of pill-bottles / paks, will likely cause a flag (and possible seizure, etc) b) DO NOT GET THEM TO RESELL IN THE US!! THEN you are likely ‘breaking laws’, and, well.. that’s all On U.. DONT BE A DUMMY / try to make $$, just worry about You / Yours. Customs isn’t going to go after a ‘family member’ sending a few boxes / bottles of “vitamins” to another family member, etc..
I was an Army medic and am an advocate of natural healing! For me, I use colloidal silver. It is well documented to kill over 650 known bacteria. It is anti-viral, anti- inflammatory and anti-fungal! It is easy to make it yourself, too! It is very cheap to make! Essential oils are extremely powerful as well! To your health!!! Merry Christmas!
Claude I’m a retired Oriental Med. Physician and your books and information are amazing. We really need you to create a book about buying prescription drugs both online and in person and in what country The drug companies and their well financed puppets in congress have confused the situation, attempted to control even vitamins, knocked herbal teas out of all the health food stores, and in general work towards maintaining an iron curtain medical monopoly, not to mention destroying freedom of individual medical choice with coerced vaccinations that often do not work. We need a book from you covering these issues. Many tthanks !
We look forward to your article.
Many thanks !
CJ.
I was wondering if you have updated any info, since post in 2000? I am intrigued!
Jill: Take a look at CampingSurvival.com
I would add doxycycline to your list. None of the 4 you list will cover MRSA skin infections. Doxycycline also is the drug of choice for most all of the tick-borne diseases. Veterinary antibiotics do not require a prescription.
doxy becomes toxic when it breaks down. Not ideal for storage.
Augmentin is better than amoxicillin. More active vs penicillinase-producing bacteria.
Zithromax is better than clarithromycin. Longer dwell time in the body, requiring shorter course of treatment and fewer doses.
Cipro is a good macrolide choice.
Bactrim is a nice sulfa choice.
4 drugs from 4 classes allows overlap and coverage. Get fish abx and verify them on drugs.com.
Just sayin….
Your federal government has stockpiled doxycycline and ciprofloxacin for public health emergency involving anthrax. https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2011/08/04/2011-19622/authorization-of-emergency-use-of-oral-formulations-of-doxycycline-availability
Yes, using expired doxycycline can potentially damage your kidneys.
Thanks, I am aware of the gov’t keeping doxy. If you are a cattle farmer or are afraid of anthrax bioterrorism get some and throw it out on expiration. I haven’t seen anthrax in 20 years of Midwest medical practice.
The 4 drugs I suggest may lose potency over time but won’t degrade into a toxin which can kill you. they will treat 99% of what you’ll encounter with redundancy, shelf stability, and safety. All also come in fish-abx tablets. Those are what I use. Feel free to stock whatever you like.
Dr. M
Not to long ago, the military/CDC moved their infectious disease lab to Manhattan,KS. Right in the heart of cattle country. This wouldn’t be a problem, except the same lab experienced several ‘accidents’ and released toxic substances into the atmosphere. Its widely known these labs keep anthrax for research purposes. And, if you believe the conspiracy theorists, none of these ‘accidents’ were actually accidents. So I would keep some of the antidotes on hand. Can’t tell you how much, or what it would cost, but…
Hi everybody,
Doxycycline does NOT become toxic! It’s just a myth. The FDA tested and approved the use of Doxycycline past the expiration date: read the last row: http://www.fda.gov/downloads/EmergencyPreparedness/Counterterrorism/UCM265824.pdf
Yes Dr. M, there are more (very good) options. I choose these 4 antibiotics because they are common and only based on my practical experience.
This is not the most extensive article, but it wasn’t meant to be. I wanted to write down only the basics – every prepper should know.
With respect, doxy degrades into a product that is toxic to kidneys which causes Fanconi syndrome. Readers, please look it up on Wikipedia. It’s not a good choice for storage.
Given the title of the article, I simply felt the choices presented were not the best choices as the only 4 abx you’ll ever need for SHTF. Sorry to disagree.
I’ll stop responding as this shouldn’t be a pissing match. Dr.SF gets last word, as its his/her article. Thanks.
Wow, courtesy on the internet! Something you don’t see much of any more. I second adding a Sulfa based antibiotic like Bactrim to the list.
If you can get prescriptions, most of these are on Walmart’s, Target’s, others $4/$10 generics lists. If not, Google “fish antibiotics.”
I would not add Bactrim or other sulfas (triple sulfa etc.) for the simple reason that a lot of folks are allergic to them and can suffer serious reactions and side effects (like serious rashes and inflammation etc) “Fish prednisone” might exist to treat adverse reactions but I have never seen it in vet supply chains. Its important to know how your body reacts to stored antibiotics and the medical history of the individual(s) being treated. I am sure this applies to all who wish to be treated safely. Just saying.
I agree.. I am allergic to Sulfa drugs. Nearly passed out, and difficulty breathing, from them when I was a teen..Had rash/hives from penicillin too, even the penicillin based newer drug (3rd generation)…Only thing that ever worked for me was/is tetracycline. 50 + years, still works for bronchitis. Is there any drug that can be stored that even comes close? I would store it in a vacuum sealed pouch or mason jar that also has a vacuum sealer attachment cover.
I agree with youJoseph and thank you for sharing your comment
I have taken Doxycycline years after expiration date and it worked no bad side effects and i’am alive to talk about it..
I believe it is Tetracycline that becomes toxic after its expiration date, not doxycycline. The confusion is due to the fact that doxycycline is a tetracycline derivative. Not sure if thats true, but thats what my pharmacist colleague once told me.
What’s the word on freezing antibiotics for expanding the expiration date?
I am allergic to sulpha based antibiotics. I had a allergic reaction with blisters an swelling and severe itching from some I was given for a staph infection. Any suggestions?
Excellent tutorial article!
I know i saw an advertisement on one of the prepper sites for a direct mail order source for antibiotics from an actual doctor/pharmacy i think was located in Canada or some other off shore location.
Dr. M. or any other prep minded M.D.s…
Are you already ‘situated’ or have a good BOL for a real time bad scenario? If not, I could direct you to one of, if not The best locations in the country for all survival scenarios?
(oh, i just noticed you said below that you practice in the ‘Midwest’. Well, that’s where it is.!)
It’s a Rural privacy area but close enough to every entertainment concievable for a lifestyle with all the amenities without the congestion, crime, or stress. No chance of fresh water shortage, no earthquakes, floods, hurricaines, etc. Maybe a rare tornado or snow blizzard Good people on many self sustaining ‘hobby farms’, good contingency of Amish, ex military and police retirees….
and all pro gun rights. You can even carry a pushbutton switchblade knife here legally now, lol!
And yes, there’s always a ‘need’ for experienced medical personnel in the state should you want to have the option of permanent residence with employment opportunities. I believe there is actually a shortage of doctors as they actuallyl have physician’s assistants managing clinics and acting as ‘primary physicians’ in areas.
I’m not selling anything, but as a long time ‘survivalist’, (and i do some articles for Survivopedia and other venues on the subject) I like encourage like minded person(s) who might appreciated neighbors of similar inclinations and resources who would be advantaged and also be an ‘asset’ toward the potential benefits of living in such an area in an uncertain future.
can you tell us all? I am medical too, a nurse and my daughter is studying to be a PA. Thanks
chall9494@aol.com
Where is this place specifically?
So where is it?
Where is this place you speak of? I also am a nurse.
Sounds like a group/place worthy of exploring. Want to share some information?
Okay, fork it over. Where is this place?
I’m sure you know this, but most non-medical would not. Cipro is not a macrolide, but a fluoroquinalone. I also think an important and extremely useful fluoroquinalone would be Levaquin. We use it empirically more so than Cipro. But both have their place and are equally as important.
Thank you for giving us such helpful information. Your efforts are very much appreciated! I do want to point out, however that Cipro is not s good choice.
FDA and Health Canada have significant warnings for Cipro and the other fluoroquinolone antibiotics, yet their warnings fall far short of the horrific damage these drugs do. Many people diagnosed with fibro myalgia, MS, lupus, chronic fatigue and IBS are likely experiencing delayed reactions to one of these drugs. It can cause multiple horrific permanent debilitating adverse reactions. These adverse reactions are most often delayed even several months later, so you don’t suspect the real cause. Colloidal silver should be able to cure anthrax, and it is far safer!
See FDA warnings here: https://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/ucm500143.htm
Bty these adverse reactions are not rare, but under reported as most doctors believe Big Pharma’s lie that they are so safe that there is no way all your multiple symptoms that appeared out of nowhere could be from an antibiotic. Thousands who have been damaged by these drugs have also faced terrible abuse from doctor’s who refuse to believe that these multiple symptoms of pain, tendon tears or ruptures, psychosis, anxiety, diverticulitis, vein disorders, cognitive decline, pulmonary edema, peripheral neuropathy and more were caused by the antibiotic they prescribed you for a routine or even suspected infection!
By taking Cipro, you are risking ending up permanently disabled and unable to do what is required to help yourself or your family stay alive. Please don’t ever take it unless every other option has failed!!!!!!!!!
Doxycycline is fine, it’s tetracycline that becomes toxic. The FDA in fact has explicitly approved doxy for use past its expiration date. There is absolutely no reason in this universe not to stockpile doxy, as it is the treatment of choice for a range of illnesses that you could get out in the wild.
Ciprofloxacin is NOT a macrolide, it’s a fluoroquinolone.
I would actually pick levofloxacin over cipro; it has greater coverage and less resistance.
My picks:
1) amoxicillin-clavulanate
2) levofloxacin
3) doxycycline
4) metronidazole
5) clindamycin
For what it’s worth to the people out there, I’m an internal medicine physician specializing in hospital medicine.
Legalization caused me to have water in the knees and ankles. This is what my doc called the huge, somewhat movable swellings in my knees and ankles. Extremely painful and was told I had to wait it out. Took well over six weeks for the dwellings to begin to decline and several months for the pain to finally abate…all from an antibiotic called leveofloxacin.
since you are a doctor i have question, what if you are allergic to amoxicillin and penicillin what can you use instead
The essential oil of oregano also works well against MRSA.
Manuka Honey kills MRSA. I searched it on GOOGLE. I also used it on a 3rd degree burn on my hand after a canning jar of apples exploded. I barely have any scars. I have photoes. I bought a 6 oz jar of it for $16.00 at a Marshall’s Dept store. I always keep on the look out for it and grab it. It can he ingested as normal honey and applied topically. I just use it for topical use.
Excellent article. I have been reading prepper articles for a long time and have never commented on one, after I read your article I felt compelled to comment. I have all of the listed meds and a couple that appear to be duplicates since they end in “cillin”. I have wondered about what to use for various infections and have never been able to find an adequate explanation until now. As for acquiring the antibiotics, I have fish antibiotics and have used them with good results. A word of caution, I only use antibiotics as a last resort, not for every little sniffle, they are way over used and too much of a good thing can end up being bad. Eat for good health, good nutrition, the weeds will build up your immune system.
Thanks!
There is a great book that explains which antibiotics to use for what illness and how much and when to take it. It is the PDR (physician’s desk reference ) You can buy it on Amazon and maybe Ebay. You can also find almost all antibiotics on Ebay as a fish antibiotic.
An excellent reference book that is easier to read and understand is Nursing Drug Handbook by Lippincott. They come out with a new book with all the new drugs each year but an older version from a used bookstore would be fine for antibiotics. It will give you dosage needed for specific problems. It is small and compact compared to a PDR.
Great article on antibiotics!
I would like an article on parasites, bugs, germs, etc found in surface water. I have had Guardia 4 times so I know that I am susceptible to it. We have a lot of Guardia in Colorado and although that mountain stream may provide cool water it can still make you sick for weeks or months without treatment.
What is best for Guardia and what is a home remedy substitute if real medicine is not available?
The best “treatment” is not to get it by treating the water first – boiling, filtering, chemicals, etc.
These articles seem to never mention the sometimes very serious side-effects or other risks associated with certain medications, herbs, or the like. Ciprofloxacin for example has such serious concerns associated with it that it has been banned in some countries. Granted in an emergency you are going to be more willing to take a risk; and Cipro is one of the antibiotics one can still purchase as a fish medication. Another very common error I see is the recommendation of Echinacea, without it being clarified that you MUST use the ROOT portion of Echinacea ANGUSTIFLORIA only. The other types are useless but flood the marketplace, meaning that lots of preppers are stockpiling worthless herbs. Those are just two examples. PLEASE everyone before you decide to try any alternative medical advice, do thorough research and don’t assume that a blogger did sufficient research for you before posting.
Your information on Echinacea is a bit misleading. Echinacea angustifolia root may be the strongest version and can take down anthrax with repeated tincture doses (getting drunk is a side effect.). However Echinacea purpurea seed is second strongest and will take down many bacterial and viral diseases. The roots of Rudibeckia hirta will behave similarly. The flowering tops of Echinacea purpurea are somewhat less strong, but work as tinctures. Raw garlic is a true antibiotic- mince it finely, coat in honey and put the spoon in upside down so your tongue thrusts it back down. I like using decocted (simmer 20 minutes) dried Coptis root for strong effects or Phellodendron tree bark (not the houseplant) for diarrhea. But Berberis (either barberry root or Oregon grape root) will take down infections if they are more superficial (no constipation or diarrhea) Goldenseal root can be used like Coptis but is endangered. I’m a degreed herbalist certified by the American Herbalists Guild, with 25 years experience..I rarely use antibiotics because there are effective herbs
Wonderful information. I wish you were in my area.
hi just wanted to know if i can email you and pick your brain. i cant take a lot of drugs they make me sicker .i have better luck with herbs, but am a novice.
KUDOS Herblady. Much appreciated.
That is correct about the root. You know you have the best stuff if it makes your tongue numb. If is doesn’t, it’s useless. One of those simple little tricks…..
What folks want to know is what are the trust worthy sites to order these from. What has your research determined these to be?
You can buy them on Ebay from different businesses and at great prices. Also purchase PDR book (physician desk reference) that explains which one to use for what illness and for how long. They also list possible side effects.
Hi. Just a comment for the person inquiring how to stockpile antibiotics and anyone else interested.
Aquarium supply stores online can legally sell aquarium antibiotics to be used on fish, of which many are common human antibiotics. These are the same substance as their ‘for-human’ counterparts, and still safe to consume, within reason. Now I wouldn’t suggest taking these unless there is no alternative, but if I had the choice between ‘fish-quality’ medicine and no medicine I would choose to stockpile. Which I have yet to do anways lol.
A few quick google searches will tell you all you need to know.
Use responsibly.
One other item I added to my drug supplies was a nurses directory to drugs, their administration and side effects. It was $1.00 on Amazon, used – why buy new… A PDR (physicians desk reference) is more exhaustive but HUGE! The nurse’s book is barely bigger than a good paperback. Now, with drugs changing frequently I would suggest purchasing another more current edition every few years, but for a buck, it shouldn’t be a problem.
Can you provide the exact name of this book? I looked on Amazon and couldn’t find anything that seemed to be this one and not at this price. Thanks.
search “physician desk reference 2016” an Amazon and you’ll find the expensive PDR and a cheap pocket guide.
Davis’ Drug Guide for Nurses is one, Nursing 2017 Drug Handbook ( older editions are available and cheaper), Saunders Nursing Drug Handbook, Lippincott Pocket Drug Guide for Nurses, Mosby’s Nursing Drug Reference. All can probably be found on Amazon.
what kind of antibiotics should someone get if they are deathly allergic to everything in the “cillin” family?
Well, I can find 3 of these antibiotics but the clarithromycin or zithromax seem to be a bit harder to find. Any suggestions? Also, where can I find dosing instructions? I am familiar with amoxicillin as I have been prescribed this recently for a dental infection. But for the other I have no idea how much to give and when. Again, any suggestions? Thanks
You can get zithromax(Azithromycin) on Ebay ; several sellers there ; GO to Ebay.com IN Search Put : antibiotics & you will get a list of SELLERS(MANY) !
How about hydrocloriquine. Where can you get? If doctors won’t give you.
good info but,,, what about people who are allergic
to penicilien ????
Hi Mike, If you are allergic to PCN, (penicillin) you would need to get a “Mycin” or “Sulfa” drug.
My hubby is allergic to both PCN and Sulfa drugs so his only choice is Mycin drugs.
Good luck.
Beware of Floxin drugs like Cipro. These are failed chemotherapy drugs re-purposed as antibiotics. They can cause sever side effects.
indeed, they are extremely dangerous drugs !!. They are Topoisomerase inhibitors ( every other drug described as such IS chemotherapy. ) They are chemo drugs MASQUERADING as antibiotics. They cause DNA damage. / mitochondrial toxicity, & countless people are seriously injured by them every year.
The potential dangers of these drugs have been withheld for almost 30 years from the medical profession by big pharma, & I have personally spent the last 26 of those years dealing with the fallout, I am one of those unfortunately, permanently damaged because of them.
The FDA has just been forced to update the warnings on them due to our advocacy, to state they can cause PERMANENT multi systemic damage .
PLEASE beware of these particular drugs, research fluoroquinolone toxicity ( fluoroquinolone associated disability ) they are SO dangerous, have such a serious toxic profile that they should be used as a LAST RESORT ‘ antibiotic ‘, ONLY !! .
Here is the link for your information
http://www.fda.gov/drugs/drugsafety/ucm511530.htm
FDA and Health Canada have significant warnings for Cipro and the other fluoroquinolone antibiotics, yet their warnings fall far short of the horrific damage these drugs do. Many people diagnosed with fibro myalgia, MS, lupus, chronic fatigue and IBS are likely experiencing delayed reactions to one of these drugs. It can cause horrific debilitating pain. These adverse reactions are most often delayed even several months later, so you don’t suspect the real cause. Colloidal silver should be able to cure anthrax, and it is far safer!
I’m in shock after reading what you posted. I’ve had fibro myalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome for 25 years. I’ve had UTI’s (three or four a year) that were often treated with Cipro. Is there published scientific proof that Cipro can cause these diseases??
Thanks for sharing!!!! I try to stay away from pharma at all cost…had stockpiled Doxy back in the day and now am wondering if I just need to throw it all out (been in the refrigerator). I also have Lyme disease that is treated with Doxy..but would not risk messing up my gut microbiome with extended use.
Hello, thanks for the post on antibiotics. May I please add a warning regarding the use of some antibiotics while taking the commonly used blood pressure medicine Amlodipine. Do not mix Amlodipine with Clarithromycin, Amoxicillin, or Omeprazole. Recent studies have found records of more than 7000 hospitalizations including several deaths from the use of amlodipine with Clarithromycin, Amoxicillin, or Omeprazole.
Omeprozole is the generic for Prilosec, an H2 inhibitor. It is NOT an antibiotic. It is used for GERD.
My husband has been on Amlodipine and Omeprazole for years with no problems. Just saying…
Thanks for the good, basic prepping info. Also, some info on dosages in milligrams and course duration for typical bacterial problems would be of great benefit in a SHTF scenario.
Regarding fish antibiotics, I purchased a couple bottles of 500 mg amoxicillin awhile ago. (Fish Mox) I felt bronchitis coming on- which is something I get frequently, so I took them as directed by WebMD (Dosage amounts) Bottom line- I started feeling worse after a couple days. Then a friend of mine INSISTED that I stop taking fish antibiotics. As it turns out, a friend of hers is a veterinarian, and he informed her, that an acquaintance of his DIED from taking fish antibiotics, and that they are NOT the same as what your doctor would prescribe.
So now… I’m really confused. Are these safe? I fully understand the importance of having antibiotics available… but I also want to keep my family safe.
Any input would be greatly appreciated!
DJ, I do believe, because these abx are meant and produced for animal and not human consumption, there is a huge difference in quality of manufacturing, and are not regulated. Therefore, I would not trust my family’s or friends health to these products.
Actually, they are not. I’ve used them for awhile and they actually are the same pills made for humans. You can look them up or compare them side by side and they are the same.
I can’t say for certain all fish antibiotics are safe and the same as those for human consumption but I can give you my experience. A couple months ago I developed a tooth infection late on a Thursday afternoon. My dentist couldn’t see me until Monday and told me to see an emergency dentist if I needed to be see before then. The emergency dentist was over an hour away and very expensive so I pulled out the Fish Mox I had purchased for emergency situations and started taking it. By Saturday I was much better. When I saw my dentist the following Monday he prescribed me Amoxicillin and the pills were identical in color, shape, and markings as the Fish Mox had been taking. I would look up and compare any fish antibiotics to the doctor prescribed ones to be sure but it certainly seems like most are the exact same pills.
I’m surprised no one is mentioning Colloidal Silver,My family and Friends have used it for years… It’s easily made( many simple and inexpensive generators are available for sale..) Its Very effective for a wide range of infective microbes, stores Very well..and can be taken daily as a preventive measure.
Be careful with colloidal silver, over use can discolor your skin.
I got 100 amoxycillian and 6 courses of Zithromax! I buy my drugs from India, don’t need a prescription! These two are my “go to” for most problems! I used to buy from bestliferx, but found a much cheaper company!
At one time I got Amoxicillian from Fish Here tropical fish places, usually 250MG so have to double the dose
what address in India?
I get my meds here.
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My mother in law used expired anitbiotics, can not remember the name but her she looked like she had 2nd degree burns from face to toes and EVERYWHERE in between. She looked like she had been burned and all skin had come off. IT WAS HORRIBLE
If you have side effects when taking antibiotics or any other medication stop taking them. Benadryl or its generic is helpful for allergic reactions. It can also be useful to help if you are experiencing trouble getting to sleep ( insomnia).
NB:
Benadryl an important go-to
Not to over-do…
Can dehydrate so completely unto a deregular performance at the loo
Maybe just me…but since that me.story…
have had my fill
of benadryl. : <
The only thing I can add to this info is long term benadryl can cause memory loss.
Only antibiotic I can take anymore is keflex. Which group is it in n how can I get it to stock up on?
***WARNING*** Tetracycline and any of its next gen relatives will become toxic not long after the published expiration date. Sometimes people have some around if they raise poultry. Please do not store these past expiration dates.
Stay away from Tetracycline. I almost died over 35 years ago. When the hospital doc can’t tell you what you have, how you got it, or how you got better, that is frightening. Later found out I had a 1% negative side effect. Never again.
People need to understand that using antibiotics kills all of the flora in your body,good and bad.After a dose of these you need to feed the good flora with Yogurt,or good probiotics,or you could end up even sicker.Something good to have that nobody talks about is Diatomaceous Earth
I wrote a book and 1/3rd of the book discusses many of these very medications recommended by the CDC and includes alternative herbal, holistic, meds and the last part of the book is free to all that want it. Book title is ” WMD Attacks on America,” and is available as an EBook from Amazon for about $2 or paperback for about $11.00.
Would be interested in a hard copy. Please. Contact me. msmyorkies@yahoo.com
No hard copies Sir?
Just wanted to add a comment to this, Make sure the Diatomaceous Earth you get is FOOD GRADE.
Hi there,
I have never heard of using diatomaceous Earth for anything in humans.
I am an RN and would like to k now more about using this and for what reason. If you would be so kind as to contact me with info, would be grateful.
Thanks,
Suzanne
diatomaceous earth food grade is good for parasites in animals and humans. it kills insect and their larva, thus is good for food preservation/ insect prevention. it is also good to treat internal worms and other parasites. it can be ingested if food grade and only small amounts are needed to keep parasites under control. something along the order of a teaspoon per day. I am a nurse as well as a farmer and have used food grade DE for years for my animals dry food preservation and for myself
where do you get food grade? I have never seen it in Australia
Augmentin is spelled wrong. There shouldn’t be a “g” on the end, and yes, Augmentin treats bacterial infections. (Amoxicillin) is a good antibiotic but many bacteria are resistant to this medication. Augmentin is a combination antibiotic of Amoxicillin & Clavulanate. It is Important to know that Amoxicillin is in the Penicillin family & a lot of people are allergic to Penicillin.
So, how do you make colloidal silver? I’m currently taking it and would like a cost effective way to keep taking it. Thanks for all help.
This is great information. I have asthma and use an inhaler. Any information on obtaining and storing these?
All you need is a stock of MMS (Master Mineral Solution) and a food acid (citric acid, vinegar, lemon juice) and get on the free forum to learn how to mix them and treat everything (now, before the SHTF). All it is is Sodium Chlorite and water (about 28% solution) mixed with a 50% solution of food acid and water. You would be using drops in treatment. So you need the protocol for each disease or condition (x many drops every x many hours for x many days or weeks). You can buy sodium chlorite flakes and make it yourself. You can buy citric acid or apple cider vinegar or Real Lemon for long term storage.
Please send info for purchase or obtainment. Thanks, m
MMS is a bleaching agent. Do not use it.
So, how do you make colloidal silver? I’m currently taking it and would like a cost effective way to keep taking it. Thanks for all help.
I have a generator from Silver Solutions.
These drugs are all well and good, but only for the short-term.
Can you do an article on natural antibiotics, and how to create / grow them?
I hear fresh garlic cloves are an excellent antibiotic source.
A good book to have is the US army’s special forces hand book
how to treat how to check for stuff and drug and dose to give,even what to look for if you have a microscope
C O L L O I D A L S I L V E R ! ! ! ! !
GREAT to see others KNOW about COLLOIDAL SILVER. I learned about it 14 years ago, bought and then learned HOW to create “MY OWN”. I have been sick in 14 years…”6 TIMES PERIOD” ! People, the information is available if you have internet, so “NO EXCUSES”.
Would you be willing to give me any info on Colloidal Silver? What is it used for? What doses to use? Etc.
Thanks so much
As for the expiration date – you ever notice the expiration date on the bottle you get from the pharm is one year after the date they fill it? A nurse friend of my told me to ask the pharm for the expiration date on the bottle they get the pill from and go by that date. Some times it’s a little longer than date on your bottle, some times it’s a lot longer.
Just remember, try and rotate your medicines so the latest you receive will be the last you use. Heat the old labels and they will peal off and you can reuse them so you don’t mix any medicines, or use newer than older ones. Stay Safe.
Very informative. I do not trust what the FDA tells us anymore, they are just a big business in quest of money at our expense.
FDA “increased” safe levels of RADIATION as a “REACTION” to the MELTDOWN at FUKUSHIMA, (MARCH 11, 2011), SO yeah…”TRUST THEM…. not!
Sounds GREAT and all, but correct me “please”, DOESN’T A DOCTOR have to WRITE A PRESCRIPTION in order TO “GET” them? I read a while back and I questioned it that we dis-guard any “OLD” ANTIBIOTICS (through with the use), SO “how” TO GET?
I don’t see anyone talking about MRSA and worse. Vancomycin and gentomycin are the treatments for MRSA. Drs please update me if anything newer has been discovered. This is what was used when my husband had MRSA and later VRE which is worse than MRSA and resistant to vancomycin. Any chance of retaining these drugs? My husband’s clinic gave us multiple viles of powdered drugs with the sterile saline to treat him when needed. But he’s passed away.
what about those people who are deadly allergic to any form of penicillin?
Everyone needs to be able to make their own COLLOIDAL SILVER….it kills 0ver 650 different pathogens it kills bacteria and virus by suffocation…….you can’t build an immunity to suffocation! Most cancers are caused by bacteria.
We go on a cruise every year and I buy my anibiotics when at port at Cozumel, Belize City, Roatan and Grand Cayman, They are around $20 a bottle over the counter.
Hi All,
The to remember is that there are so many possible side effects to all medications. By law all of these potential side effects must be listed with any of the medications. Some people have a higher intolerance to drugs than others. Have any of you really read these adverse reactions lists that come with your RX? Just because the list is long does not mean that you will get any of the adverse reactions. You may never have any reactions.At some time in my life (80 years old) I have probably taken just about all Antibiotics out there and never had any reaction EXCEPT to Cipro. When I took Cipro developed a systemic very itchy rash.
Most,if not all, antibiotics are failed chemo therapy drugs. Which is probably the reason they have so many adverse reactions listed.
I have never wanted to try the “made for fish” Antibiotics, but plan on doing some research on these.
So, I guess we all have to do what is best for each individual and hope you are doing the right thing.
I’m not sure that I believe everything that the government tells us and that’s why I do my own research.
Good luck to all of your.
Thanks for the common sense that seems so very lacking in many posts. Just because someone’s cousin f a friend of your brother-in-law got sick from a medication does not mean its a bad med and that everyone should avoid it! Get a grip people, many millions of doses of most of these meds have been taken by millions of people and yet they are still alive.
One last point, I have kept aquariums and bred fish for sale for decades and can tell you that provided you get a quality brand of medication and that you read the label before hand, fish meds are the same as what you get at the pharmacy. Read the bottle for the actual drug name and be sure it was made, bottled and sold in a 1st world country. Almost all fish antibiotics are simply manufacturing over=runs of human meds. Fish meds from India are no better (in fact worse than ) human meds from there. Get made in the USA, for a US company. Look them up on a decent website such as WebMD and make sure they look like the pill should look.
amoxicillan may be off market soon. Like DDT, it doesn’t work as it should. Doctors used to pass it our on request and that’s why. And, thanks to antibiotics used in livestock, more may be taken off market. The antibios used for livestock are different, but related.
Could anyone list sulfur base antibiotics to stock pile? Penicillin allergies throughout 3 family
generations.
Thanks
Hay thanks for the info, things we need to know, and thanks to all the commenters, a lot of good things there also, Learned quite a bit here, and you’re NEVER too old to learn. Keep up the good work.
Research on the internet for how to make silver….the FDA hates people who ” FIX ” themselves and they are watching!!!
Cipro is poison
All Fluoroquinolone antibiotics function by damaging bacterial mitochondrial DNA. Problem is they do not discriminate. You will cause permanent harm to yourself taking these. The only ethical use of an FQ is when a patient is septic and all other avenues have been exhausted
AMEN Ted.
Where can one purchase clarithromycin in a fish/bird antibiotic? Does anyone have a recommendation for a source? I found all the others but cant find this one (at least not somewhere I feel confident is legit)
https://www.google.co.uk
People should have to prepare for any situation including nature’s disaster because those are unpredictable and it is all about human safety and how can people can bear of pain of losing near ones due to carelessness of their. Thanks for revealing here 15 pieces of crucial urban survival gear.
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The most important is a brand of silver colloids. MESOSILVER has saved my life twice when traditional meds were not making me well. Once was the killer STAPH I got at a hospital during a 30minnute outpatient procedure. I was in bed dying for three months, nurses in and out twice a day changing bandages and for meds. I found out about MESOSILVER and was well in two weeks! It is microscopic silver particles in water. You can take it internally and also use it to treat the wound. Germs can never create an immunity because it does not work like antibiotics. When they hydrate, it cuts their guts apart.
My second experience was Lyme Disease. Common meds are not always effective and death is the result. Lyme Disease was created by the US Government to immobilize people. You will become cripple first and then your brain starts to deteriorate. The basic starting point to develop this disease was syphilis.
In each treatment protocol I took one oz of MESOSILVER in the morning and one at night, With the STAPH I also used it topically on the wound.
You can purchase this product online, ebay or Amazon. I have some always and in a small spray bottle I spray in my nostrils and throat if I am going to be in a large crowd. And then again returning home.
I have no knowledge of “mesosilver” but I do want to suggest the best book I’ve ever read on Lyme disease, written by a German Anthropologist and herbalist, Wolf Storl. His book, “Healing Lyme Disease Naturally” discusses his own experiences in treating it for himself, the failure of the antibiotics when administered too late, the long term chronic symptoms and his own remarkable recovery, with a specific herb. 5 Star book. For informational and historical purposes only, of course you need to consult an MD or qualified health professional for actual treatment. (PS his casual mention of healing a minor wrist fracture with “Horsetail” caught my attention, too).
I have kept aquariums and bred fish for sale for decades and can tell you that provided you get a quality brand of medication and that you read the label before hand, fish meds are the same as what you get at the pharmacy. Read the bottle for the actual drug name and be sure it was made, bottled and sold in a 1st world country. Almost all fish antibiotics are simply manufacturing over=runs of human meds. Fish meds from India are no better (in fact worse than ) human meds from there. Get made in the USA, for a US company. Look them up on a decent website such as WebMD and make sure they look like the pill should look.
Cipro has been banned in Canada for veterinary use because of the way it works… It keeps bacteria from reproducing so they die off, Unfortunately enough of it for a long enough time will do the same thing to the cells in your major organs… the effects are cumulative… You might take it once or twice and be ok… the next time your major organs start to fail… I wouldn’t take that on a bet.
Last year the flu went through our entire family and when I laid down to sleep one night I could hear fluid gurgling in my left lung and I immediately KNEW that I had pneumonia. I immediately thought that if I went to the ER they would give me antibiotics (which tear up my stomach) and oxygen and would be expensive if I was seen by a doctor. Then I remembered that I had a bottle of colloidal silver (which is a natural antibiotic) and a bottle of “Vitamin O” (which can raise the body’s oxygen level). I took 4 ounces of colloidal silver and
squirted Vitamin O under my tongue, then went to sleep. When I awoke the next morning, I was completely healed!!! So now I keep Colloidal Silver and
Vitamin O for A SHTF emergency.
OMG!! PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT TAKE CIPRO – NEVER EVER TAKE ANY ANTIBIOTIC WHOSE IN THE Fluoroquinolone FAMILY. THEIR CKINICAL BAMES WILL START WITH “FLURO”. BECAUSE THEY ARE FLUORIDE! THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE INCLUDING MYSELF HAVE BEEN PERMANENTLY INJURED,CRIPPLED, OR HAVE DIED AS A RESULT OF TAKING CIPRO, Levaquin , ETC. DO THE RESEARCH! It is called fluoroquinolone toxicity.
I don’t know about cipro. I know I absolutely cannot take quinolones.(sp) They’re awful for me.
Thank you Dr. S. Flint for sharing the video and sharing all the wisdom and knowledge that you get out of being living in the wilderness for lab amount of time. I totally agree with you that you are living out there just to get the experience for the wisdom and knowledge to share net with us. We cannot tell someone how to claim if we did not claim. It would be good instruction. I sure we all appreciated what you do to go out there and get the wisdom and the knowledge to share with us
Amen Chad.
January 22, 2020
From: Samuel Hay
PREVENTION AND CURE FOR CORONA VIRUS
Re: I HAD SARS
As an ardent researcher in many different fields some discoveries over the years have purposely been hidden away to protect Big Pharma’s massive profits. Some of these discoveries, it utilized could, in addition to healing and creating an atmosphere of less suffering for millions of people worldwide, save our own Medicare and Medicaid programs.
Getting right to it, first of all there is a solution called ‘silver colloid’ which quite simply is microscopic silver particles in water. The brand I used to cure my killer staph infection which had me in bed for three months, dying, only took ten days to completely cure. Living is a wetland area I later cured myself of Lyme Disease in two weeks using the same silver colloid. I can only recommend Mesosilver as my personal experience was with this particular brand.
About forty years ago I discovered the properties of ozone in relation to fighting communicable disease. I had to build my own ozone machine. It and its replacements have run 24/7 for all this time. Although Big Pharma has most likely been the culprit in having the FDA issue a warning, Im 77 years old and healthy as a mule. No communicable disease in this household. When they first came on the market they were priced around $650.00 but today with mass production the average cost is around $100.00 and even less for smaller models which could be used in public bathrooms to eliminate all, I said “All” disease germs. Instantly kills the AIDS virus on contact for example and it would take at least 20 minutes in pure Clorox! Ozone will permeate every inch of homes/office.
The ozone produced in the machine is a very small amount especially compared with a lightning storm. That lightning is what cleanses the atmosphere. Have you ever seen a sign that said, “Do not breathe while near a thunderstorm?” I don’t think so. Without a positive mentality to cure not just treat contagious disease, no clinical tests will ever be performed. If you were dying from a contagious repertory disease, would you want to give it a go? I absolutely would!
Germs cannot, as with the silver, ever become immune and the Chinese are currently fearing a mutation of the germs creating a public health emergency there.
In layman’s terms, the microscopic silver particles in water do not work the same way as antibiotics. When the bacteria or virus uses it to hydrate, it cuts their guts apart.
The ozone produced by the machines is O3 allowing a very unstable electron to be pulled into the outer ring but is very unstable. When it comes in contact with other atoms it can be pulled away. In the event such nearby atoms are bacteria or virus, the germs are electrocuted on a microscopic scale.
The essence of this exercise is to make public the potential of these two discoveries as preventative and curative properties. When I go out in large crowds I spray my throat and nostrils with the silver colloids in water. Simple as that. You can take the silver internally and also apply it externally to wounds.
What kind of “researcher” uses colloidal silver to “cure” their Staph infection??? Silver-impregnated dressings ARE commonly used to dress wounds, but colloidal silver is not the same thing and has none of the health benefits that are claimed for it. Here’s Mayo Clinic on colloidal silver:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/consumer-health/expert-answers/colloidal-silver/faq-20058061
Also, while silver itself has some mild antibacterial activity, colloidal silver has ZERO antiviral activity and will NOT cure a coronavirus infection. Please do NOT come onto websites spreading false information. It could get people killed and you would be responsible.
You might also note that it does not take 20 minutes of pure bleach to kill the AIDS virus. I worked in the Healthcare industry for many years and treated AIDS patients on occasion. A 10 percent bleach solution for 10 minutes works. The above rant is just a rant and should be ignored.
Buying these online, the real thing, not for animals, is really quite easy. Do some looking on the internet. I’ve been buying these and a few other things for many years. Yes, they come from India. They’re legit.
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One very important thing to remember…Antibiotics ‘will not’ work on a virus. One of the reasons we have antibiotic resistant bacteria is because of the misuse of antibiotics, either being taken for a virus or not completing the prescribed number of days for the antibiotic. Fish antibiotics do work. I’ve used them. A physician prescribed amoxicillin, but I took ‘Fish-Mox’ instead, just as an experiment. It worked very well. No problems. Well, there is one…I don’t like getting out of the water…I’ve found ‘air’ is tough to breath. Seriously, though…they do work.
Augmentin (Amoxicillin and clavulanate potassium) is mentioned a couple of times here. It is an alternative to Ciprofloxacin plus Metronidazole as treatment for Diverticulitis and other ‘gut area’ infections, when Cipro/Metron combination present complications. I can find Fish Antibiotics for everything EXCEPT Clavulanate. All the vet meds for such are by RX only. Does anyone know of a non-prescription source? I also looked for Fish Antibiotic for Augmentin, but no luck there either. And just curious (maybe the many MD’s on this thread can shed some light): Why is Clavulanate or Clavulanic Acid excluded from the Fish Med’s when it seems so popular?
CalVetSupply.com We buy things from them a couple of times a year. My husband’s really NASTY secondary infection post COVID (serious sinus infection) was resolved by their Fish Clindamycin (Spell??). He took 300 mg. x 3xs/day, though, but that is exactly what his GP used to prescribe for that problem, as he is susceptible to sinus infections. Worked like a charm! We were so grateful!
I use this one. J
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Of note: If you are a heart patient, Cipro is not safe. Try Bactrim.
This also holds true if you have allergies to the “cillin” drugs (amoxicillin, penicillin).
I am not a fan of any of the “Floxie” drugs, of which Ciprofloxcin is the most common. It may be very powerful, but it can also kill you!! People with liver issues (and/or heart issues) can have a heart attack and drop dead by using Cipro. I know, I told my doctor after on 3 capsules that I felt it I kept taking Cipro, I would fall on the floor and die! They immediately took me off of it (as I did for myself, as well) because they knew this can happen!
It’s interesting to know that certain antibiotics will kill aerobic bacteria, others are used for anaerobic bacteria still, others are effective against resistant strains, and certain people are allergic to or intolerant of various antibiotics. My husband and I discussed what we need to do in case our dog got into an accident and needs immediate care and ended up talking about over-the-counter pet wound medicines. I’ll share this with him since it gives helpful insights about OTC medicines. Thanks!
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I believe my doctor and I believe he will never give me something that can harm my body. But I have learned something from this article.
very time a person takes antibiotics, bacteria are killed. However, some germs are resistant to the antibiotic and may be left behind, may this cause for long term disease we should consistently consult with the doctor.
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Now that animal antibiotics require prescriptions in the US, does anyone have a reputable mail-order source? I can’t travel out of the country to go get them myself.
Really insightful breakdown of essential antibiotics for when SHTF—it’s smart prepping like this that makes all the difference.
Absolutely agree, having this kind of knowledge ahead of time can be a true game-changer in a grid-down or crisis situation. It’s one thing to stock supplies, but knowing what to stock and how to use it safely is next-level prepping. Articles like this help bridge that gap between panic and preparation, and give folks the confidence to take more control over their own health when resources might be scarce.