SHTF scenarios often lead to overwhelmed or collapsed law enforcement, giving freedom to criminals and looters, who exploit the situation to their advantage. Whether you plan to bug out or bug in, the possibility of looters coming to your property must be considered. In a SHTF scenario like this, you may find that you caught a looter on your property. You haven’t detained them yet, but you need to decide quickly. Now what?
First, you need to survey the situation and the likelihood of law enforcement returning. This will help you determine the scope of freedom you have to act. During Hurricane Katrina, law enforcement was overwhelmed but present, unlike in Yugoslavia in the 1990s where it completely collapsed. Simply, you must determine if law enforcement is gone for the short-term or long-term.
Short-Term
In the short-term absence of law enforcement, you will eventually be held accountable for your actions, so you should act according to the law. This means avoiding violence towards the looter, except in self-defense or according to your state laws. A citizen’s arrest comes with its own set of regulations and must be performed only under specific conditions. While natural disasters often afford citizens additional discretion in the absence of formal law enforcement, you may still be held liable for injuries, false imprisonment, assault, and other legal risks when order is restored.
Long-Term
In the long-term absence of law enforcement, the situation becomes more complex. Depending on the severity of the SHTF scenario, international bodies may have also dissolved. In this case, moral, religious, and practical considerations can guide your judgment. Even if you are not religious, it is worth considering these beliefs because they will play into the bigger picture.
Religious Considerations
Christian beliefs sometimes advocate using force when necessary to restore peace and order but generally emphasize forgiveness, mercy, and conflict avoidance. While there is no prescribed punishment for looting in Christian teachings, nonviolent solutions should be sought, even if they are more resource and time intensive.
Islamic beliefs stress the importance of justice and community protection. Sharia law often guides Islamic actions and includes predetermined punishments for various crimes. Although schools of thought vary, a traditional (though rarely enforced) punishment for looting is the amputation of the thief’s hand. Specific conditions must be met to rule out looters who are only trying to survive, and the sentence is ordered by a religious court, not the victim.
Judaism values life above almost all other religious rules. While one life may be taken to protect another or your property, more nonviolent solutions are desired. If de-escalation is possible, an effort should be made to do it. If violence against you is likely and you fear for your safety, Jewish teachings emphasize taking the initiative and preemptively striking down the threat. In the absence of imminent harm, Jewish teachings emphasize restorative justice and making amends for the crimes in the pursuit of reconciliation.
Buddhism emphasizes nonviolence and the minimization of harm. Seeking peaceful solutions would be paramount. Creating dialogue, extending compassion, and striving for peaceful conflict resolution are critical.
Moral and Ethical Considerations
Many prevailing morals and ethics in the US are rooted in Judeo-Christian beliefs, but morality is not limited to religion. Practicality and balance are also important. Actions taken in defense should be proportional to the threat, and violence should be reserved as a response to violent behavior.
There is a fine line between self-defense, including home defense which you can learn everything about from here, and vigilantism. Self-defense is a right reserved by everyone, but it is very limited in its application. There must be an imminent threat of harm to oneself or another, and the response to the threat should be proportional to the threat itself.
Vigilantism is taking law enforcement into your own hands, often through preemptive strikes, punishments, and retribution. It often conflicts with established rules of law and leads to cycles of revenge and retribution.
Prevention is Essential
Ideally, you shouldn’t have to deal with moral dilemmas. That’s because in a perfect world, there wouldn’t be any looters showing up on your property. Unfortunately, real life tells a different story, and your home could be “visited” by uninvited guests at any moment.
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Practical Considerations
Several practical factors can influence how you deal with looters in these situations. These largely boil down to a strengths and weaknesses assessment. How vulnerable you are to harm, both immediately and in the near future, and how capable you are of dealing with the threat. Wide-spread looting may see individual or small groups of looters roaming around searching for their next score. It can also see the creation of large organizations with hundreds of people.
For example, the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ) was created in 2020 by protesters in Portland, Oregon. It was created in the face of existing law enforcement, gathered hundreds to thousands of supporters, was self-governed, and there were widespread reports of crime. Like-minded individuals often band together to create larger groups with similar goals, meaning the looter you encounter may be part of a larger group that will come looking when the looter is noticed as missing. How well-armed and organized they are can make a significant difference in the eventual outcome.
Similarly, you must assess your strengths and weaknesses. Do you have resources to spare, enough firepower to fight back, the ability to effectively detain the looter, or should you avoid confrontation?
What Does All This Mean?
Laws and order deeply influence human society, providing protection and safety. Even when national law enforcement collapses, communities tend to form new legal systems. Whether you are part of the new creation or not, you will likely come under their imposed jurisdiction and be subjected to the laws they establish. These laws will likely be based on prior laws, religion, morals, and ethics. The actions you take in the absence of formal law enforcement may be retroactively punished under the new system.
An example of this is the Nuremberg Trials after World War Two. Within Nazi Germany, the Holocaust was legal based on the laws and policies of the country. Those committing the atrocities were following the national law, but their actions were high crimes against humanity according to international law, and they were retroactively punished for it after the war when the Nazi authority was replaced by Western and Soviet authorities.
The moral of this tidbit is not to defend the Nazis but to illustrate that the actions you take under one set of rules may not be the set of rules you are judged on later when a new authority takes over. Make no mistake: a new authority will always take over. Your actions with looters in the absence of law enforcement should be in line with established human rights and future-proofed to be within the likely morals and ethics that a new authority could have.
So, What Should You Do with the Looter?
Now, we are back to the initial question. With some ethical considerations in mind, practical solutions are needed. Immediate violence may be necessary, but you can likely start with non-lethal options and escalate when needed.
Alert and Deter
Looters are often creatures of opportunity who look for easy gains without much risk to themselves. Simply letting them know they have been discovered may be enough to get them to go away. You could set off your car alarm or shine a bright light at them to make them feel exposed. Even if you are alone, yelling an alert to “others” within your home can give the impression that you are a larger force for the looter to deal with.
Clear Communication
If the alert is not enough to cause them to scurry off, communicate to them from a safe part of your property where you have shelter from any offensive weapons they may have. Firmly tell them to leave. Communicate that you are armed and will defend your property.
Negotiate
If the looter insists on taking something or refuses to leave, consider negotiating. Whether the looter is opportunistic or part of a larger organization, they will be looking for something of value. You may have the possibility to trade something in exchange for them leaving and not returning. They might be in a desperate situation and in urgent need of food or medicine.
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Retreat and Fortify Your Property
With some preparation, your property could be fortified enough to fend off forced entry attempts. If negotiations fail, you may need to defend against their attacks. You know your property better than they do, so you will have the advantage.
If attacked, you should fight back with enough intensity that they change their mind and retreat. If they do not retreat, you will have to carry through until the threat is neutralized. This is a clearly offensive and violent action they are taking against you, meaning you will most likely be justified in defending yourself lethally.
Capture the Looter
If you can safely do so, capturing the looter could be a valuable source of information. Any SHTF scenario where society and formal institutions have collapsed will likely be accompanied by a great lack of situational awareness. Try to learn about their motives, any larger organization they are part of, the status of the local area, etc.
Great care and caution must be taken if you capture a looter. They will need to be kept in a secure room, bound, and watched carefully. You will also become responsible for their welfare while they are detained. Keep their eyes covered so they cannot see your face or the contents of your property. Detaining a looter should be avoided because it brings a threat into your home and increases the chances of future hostilities. If you do, you must have a clear plan to safely release them.
Ally with the Looter
It may seem counterintuitive to ally with looters, but it is a possible solution that does not mean you have to be complicit in the crime. It could be as simple as an ideological alliance. At the very least, you could establish a non-aggression pact that buys you time to prepare and build your own faction of supporters while remaining out of the crosshairs of looters.
One Last Thing
As you can see, there are many ways to deal with a looter caught on your property. I’ve shared several perspectives and tried to give you as many options as possible – but here’s one final piece of advice: take a close look at what Joel Lambert, a survival expert and former Navy SEAL, has to say on the matter in his A Navy SEAL’s Bug-In Guide. Discover:
- Ingenious, Violence-Free Ways to Keep Looters off Your Property
- How to Know if Your Neighbor Will Become a Looter in the Next Crisis
- How to Safely Clear Your House Room to Room When You Think You’ve Got an Intruder
- The Most Common Security Mistakes You’re Probably Guilty of Too
And if you’re ready to take things even further – planning for the moment when looters might break through your first line of defense – you also need to know where to hide your most valuable supplies. In the same guide, you’ll learn:
- What Hiding Places Looters Never Check
- How to Silence a Conventional Generator so It Doesn’t Draw Unwanted Attention
- SEAL Home Survival Tactics
Final Thoughts
Encountering a looter on your property can be a simple interaction where they are driven off fairly easily. It can also escalate dramatically and become violent. Your response to looters should be driven by the necessity of the situation with consideration to the future implications it will have for you and your family.
By having a predetermined plan for how to deal with looters, you will be able to act faster and more efficiently when the time comes. What is your advice for dealing with a looter in a SHTF scenario? Add to the discussion below!
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Depends. Are they there to hate on everyone or they just need some help or they just at the wrong place at the wrong time..
We can only assume what we will do at that time. Until then, who knows.
Remember the bible says to not kill or harm the innocent. So be very careful who you go after.
stay sharp
red ant
PS: We can only stay ready for what is coming.
Fire up the backhoe, go out to the back forty, dig a nice hole and bury it.
Now this brings in a whole lot of ethical questions :
Who , What , Why , And how ?
Real Questions YOU need to ask yourself when in this situation
Defense, or aggression
What is your response going to be
if you tie up, hold , put in custody your in violation of law and order
if you retaliate and take action your in violation of your current state laws
Then there is ethical code : What do you really believe
is your property or stuff, or things more valuable than LIFE
and then to what extent is protection or defense of material positions
If or Not you beleive in God or If you Are the selfish, self centered , Materials centered persons .
Then There is Can you read Intent of a person , if you let your guard Down , your at risk of harm , if you dont stop the intruder your putting your loved ones at risk , if you do not stop the violation , then your putting others at harms way .
What will you do ?
To my BOL, the looter had to travel some distance, and traverse some territory and that means he had some real intent on stealing something of value, and that value is the value that I would put on the items… Well.. If caught, the option of returning the goods taken, if not, and he resists, then, that investment in a backhoe could very well pay off… LOL If the nonexistence of law enforcement is semi temporary, then hold in a secure area till I’m able to transfer to the agency doing the policing… Now if there is no law, then I guess some simple threats and send him on his way… A note, ok, so you capture the person, take back the items he took, and now you’ve got to detain him… before you do so, secure him, blindfold him… you don’t want him to see anything about your operation, not allowing him to see your defenses and your weakness… fear is the greatest deterrent… Threat of what will happen to him if there is a next time… Still blindfolded remove him from the area and release him… I mean, what else can you do… It all goes back to what the status is of law enforcement… Living rurally, law enforcement won’t come till after cities and urban areas are set…Another food for thought, what about all those thousands of prisoners sitting in prisons throughout the state… are they going to be released, who’s going to take care of them… now thats alot of automatic looters roaming around all the AO’s.. Prisoners usually form up in gangs, and gangs roaming around are a sizable threat… totally mind boggling of scenarios just crept into my thoughts… oh well.. out here, we are the law… Were not animals, yet… just a couple of scenarios in my mind… noting, that backhoe is still and could be an option… lol…PS, I will always remember the Alamo, Gig Em Ags, Live long and prosper
I had to stop reading and reply after your description of Christianity. First it is important to note Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Every Christian is called to be armed to… Psalms 82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. 82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked. The second point that I feel needs to be made is what is looting. Theft. The forcible removal of property from the rightful owner. Case in point… Exodus 20:15 Thou shalt not steal. So what is the punishment for theft? Exodus 22:1 If a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it; he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep. Wait I think there is more. Exodus 22:4 If the theft be certainly found in his hand alive, whether it be ox, or ass, or sheep; he shall restore double. But what about violent looters, desperate or not, Exodus 22:2 If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him. 22:3 If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. I’ll leave it at that for now and read the rest of the article.
I usually like to call 911…i like to watch when they bring in the K-9 unit in….
Society takes a dim view when you take the law into your own hands. One’s actions will have secondary and tertiary effects down the line.
You could try to get information from them but not during the short term LE absence. The last administration’s enabling behavior was becoming just as bad. We could have easily turned into a version of Argentina’s Dirty War. LE being conservative and the court system being liberal and letting go of the criminals. The military and LE just started whacking the people they pulled in before the courts released them to the streets.
But getting back to the information gathering. Unless you are trained in interrogation. Torture does not and does work. They say anything and everything to make the pain stop.
Ant, you get bonus points.
G Head, sounds good . . . But can you spare the diesel ? is it old enough that an EMP didnt take out your big shovel ??
Christopher, if you can hold for the sheriff, then you can citizen arrest ! but what if there is no longer a sheriff.
Poppy, remember, some people live in tall concrete, NO TRAVEL. BUT, if the prisoners are OUT, its a you or them moment I will bet. A good idea to raise some pigs just in case.
Chris, the Bible . . . Um read it more, a lot MORE. like until you see its for and against everything, so turn the cheek and then grab your sling and kill the big guy.
Spice, what will you do when their is no dial tone, no service ?? I think thats what we are thinking ahead, to have a solution close at hand when needed.
I think,
I hope they are caught QUICK, before they have your situation memorized.
Pepper spray, mace, and a byrna might be nice.
if things are bad enough, that intruder might become your best Alli.
Today, SHTF could be bad enough, the entire population could be 100 or less, world wide.
So, think and plan, later you might find out how wrong your planning was.