Find Out What Areas Would Be Targeted by FEMA When SHTF (they’ll take your supplies)

Fergus Mason
By Fergus Mason November 17, 2017 08:53

Find Out What Areas Would Be Targeted by FEMA When SHTF (they’ll take your supplies)

Something a lot of preppers worry about is the thought of having their carefully accumulated supplies confiscated by the government and redistributed to people who didn’t bother to prepare. That’s understandable; who wants to see their family go hungry because their food has been taken away?

The government agency people worry about most is FEMA.

It’s responsible for disaster management, and one of its jobs is to distribute food to victims of a disaster. That makes it an obvious focus of concern for anyone who has food stockpiled. But what’s the truth? Is FEMA really planning to confiscate your emergency reserves?

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This might be controversial but no, they’re not. FEMA really don’t want to go door to door, confiscating stored food so they can redistribute it. Their legal powers to do this are very dubious, for a start. Some websites claim that Executive Order 10998, a Kennedy-era law, gives FEMA the authority to seize all food supplies. Good news – it doesn’t. Nor does any other EO. Realistically, the last thing FEMA want to be getting involved in is confiscating private food supplies. Apart from anything else it would be incredibly manpower-intensive and most likely pretty dangerous. They’d need to search every house for supplies that people hadn’t admitted to having, and it’s safe to say that anyone who did have three months’ worth of food in their basement wouldn’t be too cooperative about handing it over.

So does this mean you can relax and stop worrying about FEMA coming for your food?

Well, not quite. Depending on what sort of disaster we’re talking about – and on where you live – it’s possible that government officials will try to confiscate private supplies(see what you can do to avoid that)

FEMA’s immediate response to a disaster is to bring in food supplies from its own stockpiles. If that isn’t enough – and if the disaster affected more than one or two states, it probably wouldn’t be – they would turn to large food processors. Handing a canned goods factory a requisition order and promise of later payment is quick and easy. If even that wasn’t enough, wholesalers, warehouses and grain silos would be their next ports of call. Bulk food is what FEMA are looking for. It’s easier to transport, and nobody’s going to shoot at them when they come to take it. Plus, in most of the USA, there’s a lot of bulk food available for requisition.

But what if there isn’t? Sure, a storm or even a big earthquake isn’t going to destroy bulk supplies across a wide area – but a nuclear attack would. Food processing plants, distribution centers and animal feedlots tend to be located near transport hubs, and those are prime targets for enemy nukes. A lot of food supplies are going to go up in smoke.

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Not all of the will, of course, but destroying transport hubs also means it’s going to be hard to move what survives. Large areas of the country – anywhere that doesn’t have a food processing industry – are going to be cut off from the supplies that do exist. And that’s when FEMA – or, more likely, local officials – are going to start thinking about confiscating private food stocks.

They won’t get to that right away, of course.

There will still be wholesalers and supermarkets, and they’ll take control of those as quickly as they can. Even local grocery stores will be checked out, and if they have a stock room that hasn’t been looted yet, that will be seized. How much will they get, though? Nowhere near enough. Expect stores to be mostly empty anyway, if there was any warning of the crisis – panic-buying will have cleared the shelves of most food. Looters will have taken a lot of what’s left. Realistically, what’s left in the stores is going to feed people for a week at most. If transport from the main food stores isn’t up and running by then (and after a nuclear attack, it won’t be) that’s when someone might come looking for private supplies. So who’s most at risk?

The biggest risk is if you have neighbors who know that you’re a prepper.

If they’re hungry, and they know you have supplies, they’re going to tell any passing government official – whether that’s a FEMA team or a local cop – that they know where a load of food is stashed. Most likely, a few minutes later you’ll be getting a knock on the door and someone will be telling you it’s time to “help the less fortunate” by turning over most of your food. The more you can do to keep your preparations quiet, the better.

On a larger scale, if you live in an area with a large food processing industry, and this isn’t destroyed in an attack, there is little or no risk of anyone trying to confiscate your supplies. However, if there’s a likely target near this industry – an airport, major freeway intersection or port, for example – then it’s likely the food stocks there will either be destroyed or made inaccessible. If that happens there will be a serious food shortage, and a confiscation program is very likely.

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The risk of confiscation also depends on what farms in your area are producing. If they’ve just brought in a large crop of wheat or corn, this will be a high value asset for FEMA and they probably won’t be interested in your supplies. Other types of farming can be a different story. Livestock isn’t a great emergency food source. Processing it into meat is labor-intensive, and FEMA would struggle to do it, so they’re much more likely to consider confiscation. The same goes in fruit-growing areas. Fruit isn’t an ideal food source and it also doesn’t last very long. Stockpiled emergency rations are specifically chosen for their long life and nutrition, so they’re going to look much more attractive to FEMA or local authorities.

In short: if you live in any state with a coastline you’re at higher risk of the government trying to redistribute your supplies.

If there’s a major city within 50 miles of you, you’re also at higher risk – cities need a lot of food, especially if food processors and warehouses around it have been destroyed.

The states with the lowest risk of confiscation are the Midwestern states that grow a lot of wheat and corn. There will be plenty food available for FEMA to requisition and distribute. Even if it’s not harvest season, thousands of tons will be stored in silos, warehouses and processing plants.

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If you want to be safe from confiscation, the best places to be are in rural areas of Iowa, Illinois. Nebraska, Indiana, Minnesota or Ohio. That’s where the bulk of the easily distributed food is, so there will be no shortage of supplies for FEMA to hand out. If they can get their hands on tons of food in a facility designed for easy loading onto trucks, they won’t be interested in your supplies.

Even if you’re not in one of the higher risk areas, though, the best thing you can do is not advertise that you have a food stockpile. FEMA might not be interested, but your neighbors will be. You’re prepared to defend your supplies – but why attract attention you don’t want? If someone tries to take your food there’s no guarantee you’ll be able to stop them, so keep your preparations as discreet as you can. Even the government can’t take what it doesn’t know about.

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  1. Izzy November 17, 13:54

    Missouri is also considered to be a safe state.

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  2. Dupin November 17, 14:22

    I do feel better knowing that Amazon has several huge distribution warehouses in the immediate area and are eligible for Amazon Prime Now, which means they have lots of food stocks for FEMA to hit before going door-to-door, even though we’re not rural by any means. And if those are destroyed by a nuclear strike, I doubt I’ll be worrying about anything.

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  3. Beegiedog November 17, 14:27

    Ok Where are the sites> there is just a bunch of stars on the map so Where? What city? says nothing about city’s?????

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    • Farmer November 18, 00:46

      All of these articles are click bait …. nobody with any honesty is able to predict the areas that will affected by “government” confiscation. Just relax, keep quiet, don’t brag…

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      • Shootawolfe November 18, 11:45

        Not true. We’ve found this site and most all the articles to be very informative, quite realistic, and a big help in our prep activities… If one downloads the map and blows it up, ANYONE with the most rudimentary education/knowledge can figure out where the markers are located…
        Why try to down something with inaccurate info? Makes no sense.

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    • Muslim hunter November 24, 06:11

      That’s because this article is just a general theory. Nothing is specific, like many fear based theories. What is FEMA going to do with your case of mountain house & water bottles. They’re looking at big picture stuff. The average prepared citizen has nothing to worry about. Just keep your mouth shut and you’ll be fine. Pretty sure that goes for most things.

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      • Max November 24, 08:05

        I don’t think FEMA per se is the worry. I think local LEOs and Guard under orders from the ‘elites’ are more likely a risk – although still a low order risk; because FEMA and cohorts have the info to locally direct people who want to take over stores under cover of so-called law. Keeping my mouth shut and my caches secure is I think the best protection. Especially as higher-order risks would be neighbors, friends, extended family and their clans…

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      • Screwedup November 24, 13:57

        I find it really hard to hide my preps from the wife!

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        • Enigma December 2, 18:17

          Telegraph, telephone, television, tell a woman…

          If an urban or suburban prepper has females in his household, their circles of acquaintance likely to know all.

          Trying to ‘go it alone’ thus unlikely of success. Might as well seek to build / join a local organization.

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          • angelswings January 30, 02:30

            I totally resent the comments about women having a big mouth. I personally know of women who know how to keep their mouths shut, because of the fact they served our great nation. The men on this thread haven’t cornered the market on force protection. Hence the assanine comments pertaining to the wives. They couldn’t keep their ignorant comments to themselves. Makes me wonder if they could totally keep their mouths shut, under extreme circumstances, i.e. torture, threats to family or self, etc.

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      • Fergus December 5, 13:43

        “What is FEMA going to do with your case of mountain house & water bottles.”

        Well, exactly. As I said in the article, they’re not really interested. Town officials and your hungry neighbours, on the other hand…

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    • Meathead January 11, 18:51

      Pretty, but useless, map. ANY city or town should have a star.
      FEMA isn’t near as big a threat as neighbors and roving bands of hungry people who will kill to survive. Best to be in a rural location and set up strong defenses (IEDs, booby traps, barbwire, etc) to protect your supplies and family.
      Never, never, never tell anyone about your supplies or give anyone begging anything. Give them food for a day or two and they’ll be back for more and probably with others in tow. It will be hard to do, but you can’t feed them all and provide for yours at the same time.

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  4. Meathead November 17, 15:18

    Those in the cities and populated areas will be the greatest at risk, not mainly from FEMA, but from the surrounding population. Marauding mobs will be looking for food or anything that can be traded for food.

    After a period of time, thirst goes away, but hunger does not. Your hypothalamus (organ in center of your brain) senses salinity of your blood for thirst and glucose level for hunger. After a period of time, its sense of blood salinity diminishes, but its sense of glucose does not diminish; if anything, it increases. HUNGER GNAWS AT YOU!

    On, or about, the fourth day without food, food WILL start to become an obsession. People who are normally mild mannered WILL do anything to acquire food – including killing to get it.

    The first two to four weeks will be the roughest time. After this period, most will have sought the government camps for relief or be deceased. Therefore, you will want to be very careful preparing meals to ensure that smoke or scent doesn’t travel beyond your secure area. Properly prepared ‘freeze dried’ or ‘dehydrated’ food that simply requires hot water to prepare will be your best bet. MRE’s will do for a few days, but studies have shown that after 3 days of eating only MRE’s, your digestive tract will commence to have problems and 21 days is the absolute maximum for living only on MRE’s.
    Be mentally prepared to defend your supplies even to the point of having to kill to do it. Losing your supplies will mean the death of, or government internment of, you and your family. FEMA Camps won’t be anything like a resort stay.

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  5. andt November 17, 16:33

    Even in fairly localized disasters, FEMA is pretty much a joke. If it gets to the point that food needs to be confiscated due to a multi-State or national event, there won’t be enough of the federal govt left to do anything…and that includes the military.

    Bubba down the road is who will be your problem. He has few cans of food in the cabinets, couple hungry kids & wife, a rusty 30-30 and half box of shells left from a deer hunting trip 10 years ago….and you have to sleep sometime.

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    • Fergus December 5, 13:40

      Agreed. One point I was trying to make in the article (and I don’t know if I made it firmly enough) is that FEMA isn’t really interested in private stockpiles, because FEMA think in terms of feeding people by the hundred thousands, or even millions. They *might* be pushed to it in extremis, but in almost any scenario I can think of (which is a lot), FEMA don’t want to be coming for your food anymore than you want to give it to them.

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  6. Old & Gray November 18, 01:05

    Create a TRUSTWORTHY group. Plan, Prepare and maintain 360 degree security 100% of the time. Plan contingencies ALWAYS, because every single plan has flaws.

    Keep your preps private, shut your bragging pie hole and enjoy life on the way. Don’t make this more complicated than what it should be – Simplistic. All this other stuff just breeds your very worst enemy – FEAR! Use that enemy to keep your pie hole closed about what your going about doing privately.

    Enough said. Be Happy – Be Safe – Be Prepared!

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    • Cedric November 20, 19:07

      Sound wisdom! 🙂 It’s good to see some common sense here.

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    • Wannabe November 20, 22:37

      I would only partner with one or two families at the most. Families you know and trust. If things get really bad then loose lips sink ships. The more who know about supplies, the more there are able to be squeezed of info. Only takes one to ruin it for everybody else. Good advice on keeping the pie hole shut about your preps. Don’t understand folks who want to brag. Love the doomsday prepper show because it was informative and opened my eyes to the whole concept but they told millions across the country about all they have. Just not a good idea

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  7. CarmenO November 18, 10:30

    Glad to see that my rural area in my state falls under “most safe” but still no way do I tell anyone, asides from my daughter and her husband (who I taught well). As to taking supplies, there are complaints on YouTube as to the American Red Cross being allowed to confiscate food supplies that have been gathered by volunteers and churches. In one of the cases they took the supplies that were in the steps of the church. They then toss what they don’t want and keep what they think is valuable. I don’t know under what law that is allowed but it’s not just FEMA we need to worry about. I believe the videos were from Florida but no sure, as Texas was also affected by the hurricanes. As to the ARC, please, if you are one who has not heard DO NOT donate to them, the Red Cross’s idea of feeding people in PR was crackers and water. I bet people in Texas did not fare much better. Hopefully people have watched videos on YouTube by people who managed to sneak in cell phones to FEMA “shelters” talking about not knowing when or if meals would arrive.

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    • William November 18, 13:15

      My friend the unknown Church are those who Love their neighbors not like the known Chuch who are the ones who Love not any , call on the name of the Lord and you won’t be going through the great tribulation son Jesus our Christ SAVES. PEACE

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      • Trinity November 18, 20:57

        That’s a common fallacy, Christians who believe they will not suffer any of the tribulation could be setting themselves up for either disappointment or have their faith shattered. The Bible clearly states ALL must endure at least the first 3 1/2 years of it, hence the statement “he that endures to the end will be saved”.

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    • Wannabe November 20, 22:47

      I saw the Red Cross step in some cities where I spend a lot of time in sheltering evacuees from flooded areas. They were rationed with donated supplies given only if the Red Cross deemed fit. I saw fema try to step in and take supplies lovingly donated and delivered by good people all over Texas to help local flood victims survive and not have to leave their homes and fema was told to stay away only after the sheriff got involved and called them. I even know of some national guardsmen overstepping their bounds and threatened with arrest from state troopers if she didn’t shut her mouth for publicly talking bad about local residents helping each other. Yes, it can get really ugly quick. My nephews taking their boat and trying to rescue people and hearing gun shot after gunshot and realizing it was just too dangerous. Yes, fema will confiscate food, Red Cross does hoard donations, people will kill to survive. Please friends, get prepared now because when shtf and you have nothing, then that is exactly what you have.

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  8. Illini Warrior November 18, 14:05

    Totally agree about FEMA being a threat – but before that would ever happen the local authorities would have beat them to your door – especially if you have practiced poor OPSEC …

    Ask yourself – Are the powers to be in your area preppers? – highly doubt it – the civil authorities and police powers behind them aren’t more prepared than the average sheeple …. if you think they’ll be going down without at least trying to use some bogus emergency confiscation laws – you don’t understand human nature much less this type of survivalist ….

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  9. Frank November 18, 22:45

    Interesting that you are the last person to post a comment as I was thinking the same thing you are commenting on. I was just reading the above article and saying to my brother that regardless of the available resources, some unscrupulous and downright power hungry types might abuse their position and attempt to confiscate food and other supplies from those who appear to have an abundance.
    I agree with the notion that there are those who will take because they feel entitled due to an elitist attitude and those who are desperate and think that their need justifies them taking what others have paid for and worked to build be it a shelter, a backyard farm or just food, water and basic necessities to live.
    And unfortunately, there seems to be this notion that people who prepare, who call themselves survivalists or preppers, are selfish hoarders when in fact they are not only entitled to purchase as much as they want, but preppers are contributing to the local economy and reducing the burden on the government, FEMA or anyone else. The stores can restock the shelves in time for everyone to create a stockpile. Most stores stock at least twice a week and any store will stock MORE of those items that show increased sales. Prepared people should be seen as role models to follow, not to persecute.

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    • Wannabe November 20, 22:56

      This is why we defend the second amendment. Has anyone on this feed ever heard of the battle for Athens Tennessee? Look it up and see the corruption of local authorities running the people’s lives and the people just had enough of the bull crap. Soon after wwII the returning veterans were not going to see tyranny in their back yards so soon after fighting the Germans. Keep it, defend it,

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    • Fergus December 5, 13:37

      Yes, I agree. The biggest threat is likely to be local authorities and private citizens who feel entitled to a share of what *you* built up. Personally I don’t think FEMA is anything to worry about.

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  10. Rawhide January 11, 20:36

    The problem isn’t going to be FEMA. FEMA doesn’t have the manpower to do much of anything. The problem will be DHS. These guys will be the goons that would be the enforcers of any confiscation moves.

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  11. Gettin Old January 11, 23:59

    Been at this ‘shtf’ a while now, but am still wondering, (new to the neighborhood, small town, single entry enclave) how do you develop relationships with your neighbors (for mutual protection), w/o giving away your ‘prepperhood’? All serious comments welcome.

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    • Farmer January 12, 00:25

      Gettin Old … I’m there too …. what I’ve found in my very scattered rural neighborhood is that it’s easy to strike up friendships with neighbors on many subjects … leaving SHTF aside for the time being …. I’ve only broached the subject in discussing common concerns … in my area, the New Madrid fault, tornadoes … specifics about prepping come later. Once I find out that a neighbor is unconcerned about realistic dangers and would prefer to spend their excess cash on beer and pizza, I drop the subject … such a neighbor might not be part of a useful group if the need arises. Most people I met are quick to telegraph their true feelings about potential disasters and often “leak” their ideas about prepping. I’m cautious about sharing much at all….. and also (sounds conniving) …. but I also evaluate their talents and judge how “useful” they would be as part of a community or how much of a threat they would be if things got out of hand.

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  12. Rustic Recluse January 15, 15:34

    You do not have to tell anyone nor suspect any of telling because they already know. Since the Second World War they’ve had in place a so called God-system. They see all know all and are everywhere at all times. With today’s technology they are able to be even faster at it. No matter who or where you are, what you’re doing, why and to what degree, they know. If you don’t already know this you will ignore it at first or maybe right up to the point you have to acknowledge it. You’ll be fine if you’re a throwback or even a recluse. However, you’ll be disappointed if you think for one second you’ll be safe, untouchable, unaffected, or that they can’t breech your set up. Your enemies are you, your mobile telephones, computers, tablets, GPS systems, cable, wi-fi, modern appliances, the electric poles and wires hooked to your homes, meters outside, cars-trucks, televisions, radios, relatives and friends, and even apps and the places and people that you conduct business with. Not because they wanted to be against you or because they dislike you, but because you did not see it coming. Don’t let it stop you from living life, tomorrow is not and will never be promised. Even though I know of what I speak is truth, and understand a lot of the Beast System’s capabilities and objective, I fear no evil because their god is a mighty system, but my God is Almighty. I became a loner not by force but by choice. A rustic recluse, so that I could let go of the very things preventing me from carrying my cross. I was blinded by the shiny things of this life that are meant to distract the mind, by jaded people who tried to convinced me that their hate was actually love. Then the scales fell from my eyes, the shield slipped from my heart, the walls of my mind tumbled down and for the first time in my life I realized that what I believed good was bad, and that what I thought bad was actually good and that it was to my benefit. Now I watch and wait and pray silently and earnestly for the most part. I see like I’ve never seen before. Very little surprises me. Yes, there have been times when I wish I did not know but the truth is, it was just meant to be, ‘predestination’ and all that. If you are not wake yet, I mean truly awaken and you’ll know when you are because nothing will ever be the same, and you have to accept that plus the fact that you can’t save everyone (because there are those who may never wake up), then continue to live an ostrich until by choice or happenstance you’re awaken. As for me, I live each day as if it were my last. I know it sounds morbid but I’ve come to realize that life is not a fairytale and that the Beast is real and far more hellacious than one could ever have imagined. You see things were flipped, and in plain sight. Only our eyes were wide shut. Our ears seared. Our minds scarred. Our voices ignored. Just so you know there is no privacy, and the only law is to conform or go alone until you get it figured out. There is nothing that you do that is secret unless you can reteach yourself to rethink and to take those thoughts captive. Get to know how systems work, both man and machine. If you can understand system you might maintain. If you can’t then make yourself useful, learn to listen with your eyes and see with your ears, hear with your heart and to open your mind and to let your words be few and yes you read it correctly. Lastly, any system can be dismantled. It’s always the enemy’s one true fear and your secret weapon. Don’t be rattled by what you’re reading here, just take your time and think things through. Be alert! It really is what it is. My advice, stop prepping and do what come naturally. Let the way you choose to live be the way you choose to die. If you can, then continue to can but do it because it is a part of your life. If you like to trade, then trade because it is a part of your life. When it comes to weaponry, rethink it. Machine guns, ak47s, cannons won’t stand up against what’s aimed at you right now. The capabilities are phenomenal, most can’t began to imagine what they’ll be up against. (Through wall technologies, satellite communications, nano particles, laser/dazzlers sonic sound, microwave, all capable of disarming without person to person physical contact called ‘no touch torture’.) A sniper would be picked off by an invisible beam before he could site up. It’s real, it’s here, and it’s now. Understand that it’s difficult to get around facial recognition and voice to skull and holographic weaponry, not to mention you can’t protect yourself with cameras and other electronics that can be disable with a readily placed beam while you’re being detected with the latest X-ray app on a handheld device that’s watching you do what you do or listening to you without you knowing it. Every Emil, text, draft, and call is metadata that’s stored for future use against you more than likely. Right now your child could be saying the first thing off the top of their heads and incriminating you without so much as a thought. It’s today’s culture. Most minds have shut down, TV and radio thinks for us so we no longer have to use our heads. The Internet is our encyclopedia so we don’t have to read just cut and paste. The microwave zaps it in minutes and us too but we keep using them. What’s to prevent a beam being aim at a dog, cat bird or person? What camera or industrial lock or alarm can’t be bypassed? What keyless or self driving car can’t be stopped dead on and taken over by an operated with the ability to take over a machine for nefarious reasons? It’s a simple as putting fluoride in a tube of toothpaste and telling all it’s good for them as it is to enter a well stocked and organized pantry and undo canned jars to set up bacterial where a well versed preparer might know that the seal has been tampered with but a small child or an adult less knowledgeable wouldn’t. What firewall can’t be breeched? You’ve known a lot of them all your lives. You shared with them things you hadn’t aught have. They are in every walk of life from the very top to the very bottom. They see, they know and they are in place everywhere and are not leaving no where soon because they are where they want to be, right where you let them in. If you are the pioneer type, live it. Pioneers always sustained themselves and knew just how much they needed for whatever reason. They didn’t have to brag or boast because it was a way of life. It’s the way they chose to live and the way they chose to die and hopefully there was enough of their off spring paying attention rather than worrying about getting the next or latest gadget. So don’t play at it, actually live it, and stop depending on things that come quick, fast and in a hurry. Get together, get to really know one another in your household through the things you have in common, in love, in life and in death. I know we can’t turn back the hands of time but get as close as you can to what your great greats use to do and discover what third world cultures do, really and truly watch the ways of animals, birds, marine life, insects and the homeless population. Then go into the closet of your soul and figure out your place, you space, your race, at your pace. Think on it!

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  13. pigfarmer January 29, 14:26

    I found out the postal service has been keeping count on deliveries of prepping food for years , all fema has to do is hit the supplier were they are shipped we are all done , there is no real safe way , my fed-ex driver is a friend and said the same thing,

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    • Farmer January 29, 23:28

      I have a really hard time believing that. My experience with both the USPS and FEDEX is that 20 % of the time, they can’t deliver packages. Besides, there is a question of legal authority. There is also the issue of “unmarked boxes” – how would they know what is inside. They have no authority to open. The USDA has limited authority to open packages, but #10 cans of butter powder would not be on their RADAR.

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    • Enigma January 30, 01:24

      Operational security (OpSec) principles dictate that you never tell anyone you don’t know and trust implicitly anything factual. Always use plausible misdirection.

      E.g., you never tell a taxi driver the actual hotel to which you’re going, but have him drop you off at a nearby market or like place. You never have supplies delivered to your site or abode but instead to some place ‘neutral’.

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  14. Cozymtngirl January 29, 22:31

    No safe place near a nuclear power plant when grid goes down. Midwest and East Coast full of. FEMA is less of prob than that.

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  15. sandy January 31, 20:33

    Thank you so very much Rustic Recluse for sharing your wisdom. A great confirmation for me.

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