Melting Ice Cap Releases Deadly Trapped Ancient Viruses

John Claxton
By John Claxton July 25, 2017 12:05

Melting Ice Cap Releases Deadly Trapped Ancient Viruses

By John Claxton

It’s official: scientists warn that we now are facing a pandemic SHTF. The deadly, frozen pathogens that have been sleeping for millions of years under the Arctic ice and deep in the permafrost soil are now starting to thaw out and awaken. As the ice and lower layers of permafrost melt, humanity and animals are threatened by potentially annihilating diseases. And that has become a fact!

Disease-causing (pathogenic) bacteria and viruses were responsible for plagues that wiped out populations in the Middle Ages, Renaissance, and the early 20th century. We naively thought we had eradicated these germs and their diseases from human populations. But these pathogens are still present in the melting Arctic ice and they could cause epidemics and pandemics again. Additionally, there were discovered never encountered, mutated, giant viruses that could pose a threat.

Many blame global warming for this situation. Personally, I do not believe that global warming is man-made, it is a just a normal phase in the Earth’s life cycles. Whenever the planet came out of an ice age, the planet warmed. But I can’t ignore the fact that the climate around the world has registered significant changes. We now have droughts in rainy areas and floods dry areas, the arctic ice cap is melting like never before and strange meteorological events are unfolding everywhere.

So, I suppose we can blame global warming? A dramatic rise in temperatures in the Arctic Circle is happening three times more rapid than in other parts of the globe. Every 1°C (1.8°F) of additional warming would thaw one-quarter of the earth’s frozen tundra area. So, it becomes quite clear that the greatest threat of global warming might as well be the smallest. Namely, climate change can provoke and aggravate the spread of infectious disease by changing the behavior, lifespans and regions of diseases and their carriers.arctic sea ice extent

What parts of the Arctic Circle are potentially dangerous for infection?

  •  Northern Russia (where dead reindeer contain anthrax spores)
  •  Siberia (where corpses buried in the 18th and 19th centuries in cemeteries near the Kolyma river contain smallpox nucleic acids)
  • Burial sites of Stone Age people in southern Siberia at Gorny Altai
  • The Alaskan tundra (where corpses of the dead infected with Spanish flu virus lie buried)

In the summer of 2016, ghosts hunted the Arctic and may soon hunt the entire planet. An outbreak of anthrax in northern Russia caused the death of a 12-year-old boy and his grandmother and put almost 100 people in the hospital.

The spread of illness was not an act of bio-terrorism. This was caused by the thawing of the frozen Arctic which led to the release of deadly anthrax spores from a thawing carcass of a caribou that had been infected 75 years ago and had stayed frozen in limbo until now. The spores were released into the soil and the water supply, entering the food chain, and infecting 2,000 grazing reindeer. Thus, the entire area was put under quarantine and was evacuated by the Russian troops trained in biological warfare.

And this is just the beginning. The permafrost is full of bodies and carcasses infected with deadly viruses such as smallpox and bubonic plague (which has recently erupted in New Mexico). For example, late in the 19th century, an epidemic of smallpox occurred in Siberia killing 40% of the people of a village close to Kolyma River. Currently, the level of the Kolyma river is rising due to continuous melting of the permafrost and now the Russian officials worry that more undead diseases will come back to life. This is, in fact, very worrisome because people today lack sufficient herd immunity and so a global epidemic could happen so fast that we won’t be able to fight it in a timely manner.flea bubonic plague

If a whole pathogen or a bacterial spore (such as tetanus or anthrax) is present in frozen ice, can the germs grow after the ice has melted?

Bacterial spores are relatively resistant and can rest for centuries. Theoretically, sporulating types of bacteria such as tetanus and bacteria responsible for botulism can survive under permafrost for a long time. In 2005, scientists from NASA thawed out the Carnobacterium pleistocenium bacteria in a laboratory after a specimen was taken from a frozen pond in Alaska. Once thawed, the 32,000-year old bacteria, dating from the Pleistocene period of the woolly mammoths, were seen to be moving in a liquid sample under the microscope.

Can ancient viruses still be alive?

The giant viruses, Pithovirus sibericum and Mollivirus sibericum, were found 1,000 feet underground in 30,000-year-old permafrost near the coast of Siberia. When thawed in a lab, these giant viruses became infectious to amoeba rapidly. Also, Mimivirus, another giant virus, was found under the tundra. Giant viruses are tougher, more resistant to environmental conditions, have more genes, and are harder to destroy than viruses that infect humans and multi-celled animals. In addition, DNA sequences of herpes virus have been found in specimens from the Arctic Circle.

Are there ancient germs in Antarctica?

Scientists have taken bacteria from 100,000-year-old Antarctic ice, thawed out the bacteria in a lab, and found that the bacteria were alive. In 2007, microbiologists in a lab thawed out living bacteria from ice that is 8 million years old, underneath a glacier in the valleys of Beacon and Mullins in Antarctica.

Can ancient bacteria infect people today?

The answer is simple: YES. Scientists have found that some DNA of ancient bacteria contains virulence factors, which are genes responsible for infecting cells of multi-celled organisms, including humans. Some bacterial DNA was isolated from permafrost that is estimated to be 30,000 years old and is currently melting in the Beringean area between Russia and Canada. The bacterial DNA contains genes which evolved naturally for resistance to certain antibiotics, including tetracycline, beta lactam, and glycopeptides.

What about infected specimens of Neanderthals and other early species of humans?

Yes, the remains of early species of humans, including Neanderthals and Denisovans from 30,000 to 40,000 years ago in Siberia and Russia, might be contaminated with viruses.

Therefore, stocks of vaccines against viral diseases are important for government hospitals to have in case of a current outbreak of an old or ancient disease.

What about mining and drilling?

Yes, mining for minerals and precious metals such as gold and drilling operations for natural gas and oil could release pathogens, not just in the Arctic Circle, but elsewhere.

In the Cave of the Crystals within a mine in Naica, in the north part of Mexico, 10,000 to 50,000 year old bacteria inside fluid pockets of selenite crystals were isolated in a lab. The bacteria easily reproduced in the lab and may represent a new species.

In the Lechuguilla cave inside a mine 1,000 feet underground in New Mexico, 4 million year old Paenibacillus sp LC231 bacteria have been found. The bacteria were not exposed to any water or sunlight in the cave. However, lab tests have shown that the bacteria are resistant to 18 kinds of antibiotics. Evolution of the antibiotic resistance factors likely occurred to protect the Paenibacillus from fungi and other types of bacteria that may have competed with it for a source of nutrients.

Fortunately, Paenibacillus does not infect humans. Nevertheless, the antibiotic resistance factors that evolved naturally in Paenibacillus theoretically could be transmitted to other types of bacteria, if the Paenibacillus wasn’t trapped deep under rock.

Can global warming cause other infectious diseases?

Yes, due to global warming, countries in the north may experience more outbreaks of diseases typical for warmer climates. Examples are malaria, cholera, and dengue fever.

What can we do to prepare against infectious diseases before SHTF?

  • You can make sure that all your recommended vaccinations are up to date.
  • If you are allergic to any antibiotics, keep that in your medical records, and let your doctors and pharmacists know.
  • Wash your hands frequently with warm soapy water.
  • Always carry clean, bottled water if you are hiking or camping.
  • Carry topical antibiotic ointment, antiseptic wipes, and hand sanitizer if you are hiking or camping.
  • Make sure that there are no areas of stagnant water outside your house where mosquitos could breed, such as tires, children’s pools, and birdbaths.
  • Your home first aid kit should have a thermometer for detecting whether you have a fever. Keep the thermometer clean and disinfected from any previous illness.
  • Consider taking dietary supplements, such as Echinacea, that boost your immune system.
  • Colloidal silver is a supplement that is used to prevent and treat infections, because it can bind to and kill bacteria, viruses, and yeast.
  • Eating honey, especially wild honey, and using manuka honey for wounds of the skin are natural anti-infection treatments.
  • Don’t take oral antibiotics to prevent an infection, unless your doctor has prescribed an antibiotic for that purpose. Taking unnecessary antibiotics may make the normal bacteria in your body resistant to the antibiotic.
  • Don’t take oral antibiotics to treat a viral infection. Instead, your doctor may prescribe an antiviral drug.
  • If you think you have any kind of infection, see your doctor for diagnosis and treatment right away. Antibiotics work best when taken as soon as possible.

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  1. vocalpatriot July 25, 13:18

    A TOTAL CROCK OF CRAP!!!
    Ice has melted and frozen at the poles since the dawn of time.
    The bacteria and viruses that found their way into a frozen state have also always been all around the world already.
    Try using your brain.

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    • Michael July 25, 13:57

      Agree. Just what we don’t need, more fear-mongering!

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    • Bob July 25, 14:36

      You are absolutely correct, fake news- an ad that is made to appear as news but the “news is pure BS. Preppers don’t need this kind of misinformation. Fact is ice has been increasing on the artic cap.

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    • Desert Lion July 25, 14:39

      Which part do you think is a crock? Sure, if they were frozen into the ice thousands of years ago, they were in the wild at the time. Maybe you assume that immunity is permanent and inherited by future generations. Shingles patients would probably disagree. Or perhaps you think the view that whatever global warming there is right now is anthropogenic, so rather than be aware of and prepare for ancient pathogen infections we should do something to quit releasing them. Open to science supporting that view and solutions tested to have a positive effect. That would be a welcome change from most of the alarmist rhetoric on the topic. Not holding my breath.

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      • Arlene Johnson July 25, 17:49

        Usage of vaccines is a crock. In fact I am about ready to unsubscribe from this newsletter because of that.

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        • Timo July 25, 19:47

          Hi Arlene! I am relatively new to this website but find it very appealing. Although I find myself in agreement with your observation about vaccines, I would gently recommend you stay with the newsletter. We are so very enriched by all the material that flows through this location…even that which seems absurd. Besides, I for one would miss your input if you left. We will always be free to label what we read as “nonsense” or “actionable.” Have a wonderful and blessed day!

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      • vocalpatriot July 28, 23:44

        the whole notion that this is a new threat is the crap..pure fantasy bullcrap!! irresponsible fearmongering AKA: fake news. also, global warming is a bold faced lie, proven by the very moron egghead who were paid to perpetrate it.
        No I don’t assume anything is permanent, (God has designed humans to fight disease not to be impervious to them). nor do I believe that the non existent “global warming” is man made, Al gore is a criminal and raped the world with his snake oil claim that ice melt will raise the sea level by 20 feet..(effectively increasing the diameter of the earth by 40 feet, that’s a lotta fricking water…yeah so simple to disprove it’s kinda funny.
        Being immune is like being muscular, it doesn’t happen by avoiding exercise, the bacteria and viruses that lived before were survived then and will be survived, but don’t expect me to get all worked up over a bs article such as this one.

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        • vocalpatriot August 2, 23:23

          Furthermore, when glaciers are formed they are pressed outward by snow at the poles and essentially “extruded” towards the equator where they break. The pieces, with the pathogens in question on board, then make their way by availing currents releasing everything into the sea and atmosphere by the normal, annual melting process
          (that the criminal global warming alarmists use as a pry bar to force their cap and trade control agendas down the throats of the rest of us).

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    • wa2qcj July 26, 03:07

      True enough. I do not doubt that the areas that do thaw -might- pose some level of risk. That said, these “germs” also have vaccines to kill them. The big issue is that we did think there were gone, for good, and stopped the vaccination programs. That is the big issue here. Samples of those pathogens are also in storage in various labs around the world. Our kids, and young adults face the biggest problems since they have not been treated. If someone wants to raise a big stink with the government and CDC, do so on the basis of renewing those vaccination programs. Our grandchildren might not like us for the pain of a needle stick, but rejoice when they do not get sick from an out break.
      For the rising of the oceans and all of that, consider how much fossil fuel we are burning. Basic chemistry folks. Burn a hydrocarbon with air and **PRESTO** you get water vapor. Water vapor finds some place to condense, forms liquid water, and finally gets to the seas. Result, over time, rising ocean levels. We have been burning hydrocarbons for how many centuries? A gallon of gasoline burned equals about 1 gallon of water. How many engines are in operation the world over putting out water vapor from the fuels they burn? Warming planet???? Maybe. But we are also making water vapor, and effectively pouring it into the sea. Kindly remember the laws of energy and matter. You can change it, but you can not destroy it.

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      • vocalpatriot August 2, 23:07

        wa2qcj, antibiotics kill bacteria, but vaccines do not “kill” viruses. vaccines condition our immune systems to better prevent viruses from getting a foothold in our bodies.
        These threats mentioned are not exclusively frozen in the arctic ice, they exist, and are thriving, on the earth in many forms. This is a bogus story because of that fact.
        This kind of story angers me because of the irresponsible appeal to emotions, especially fear, that it relies on. Because people in fear make stupid decisions,
        the author should be ashamed.

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      • vocalpatriot August 2, 23:27

        idiot.

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  2. randy July 25, 13:49

    person who wrote this article has fallen for the fake news of the global warming morons. There are as many reports that the ice is getting thicker. There are many reports of the Global warming “scientists” falsifying records that we will never know the truth.

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    • vocalpatriot July 28, 23:48

      randy, not to mention through the seventies the ignorant eggheads claimed that earth was entering an ice age because of the same pollution they now claim is making earth warmer…but we’re supposed to ignore that and believe them NOW.

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  3. jeelder July 25, 13:59

    As a Environmental Health & Safety Engineer since you have stated that you do not believe that man has substantially contributed to Global Warming any other opinion on the subject carries very little weight.

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    • Bob July 25, 14:39

      You have been brain washed and refuse to consider other opinions and theories- how unscientific.

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    • Desert Lion July 25, 14:45

      As a proponent of the scientific method, your opinion carries no weight without data to back it up. I’d love to see the evidence that has apparently been so carefully withheld from public scrutiny which supports your claim. Given that the warmest times in the archeological record predate most modern technology, the anecdotes currently trotted out by those afflicted by anthropomorphicterrathermophobia have no uncompromised data to support them. Maybe you’re the one exception to that trend. Standing by…just not holding my breath.

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    • DeeDee July 26, 06:03

      Um, jeelder, you have even less credibility if your are peddling the global warming (climate change hysteria) junk science. You global warming cultists refuse to look at REAL evidence.

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  4. Indigo July 25, 15:39

    Global Warming is OVER and has been for awhile. Nasa and other agencies have been lying about the temperatures to promote the Agena of Global Warming. 2 officials at the UN have admitted that Global Warming agenda is not about the environment,it is about changing the economic system.getting rid of capitalism and installing global socialism. We are heading into an Ice Age and many people will die because most gov’ts have not even acknowledged this let alone prepared for it. However Russia has secured Crimea,China is buying a ton of land in Africa so secure some food production. There has been a lot of crop loss all over the world due to summer snows, and cold temps.John Casey former NASA has written 3 books on this and has many videos on you tube.Also check out Adapt 2030 ,and The Solar Minimum channels on you tube. The sun is going quiet just as it did in the Maunder Minimum and the Dalton Minimum. Prepare for cold folks warming is a non event.

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  5. left coast chuck July 25, 15:43

    For all those henny-pennys running around crying global warming, global warning, to what to you attribute the melting the of the glaciers that used to cover North America and Europe and in all probability a good portion of Asia if we are to believe that the aborigines found on the North American continent came across from Asia via an ice bridge between Asia and North America? That was long before we were tootling around in automobiles and before we had coal fired electric plants all the other impedimenta of modern man that is supposed to be causing global warming? Was it all the campfires that the Neanderthals and Crown-Magnon were burning that led to the ice melting? When the Romans invaded England sometime before the current era they planted vineyards and grew wine grapes. Currently wine grapes do not grow in England, so while the Romans weren’t keeping doctored records of average temperatures and variations thereof, we can assume it was warmer in England than at present. Oops! That’s inconvenient.

    As far a bubonic plague, I just finished reading a book about the great plagues that swept Europe and Asia. According to the author, folks who study such things can’t quite decide why the two episodes of plague exhibited such different symptoms. The best GUESS is that one plague was bubonic plague and the other was pneumonic plague. Both nasty diseases but with different symptoms and different causative agents, but both caused by rodents, bubonic by marmots and pneumonic by rats. Bubonic plague is endemic among ground squirrels and other rodents in the U.S. and we occasionally have outbreaks of the same here in this country where someone camps in a ground squirrel village or, perhaps a prairie dog village.

    During the 1800s, the paper making industry of New England was wiped out by anthrax. Mummies had been discovered in Egypt. Mummies were wrapped in linen. Linen happens to make very nice paper. Mummies were stripped of their wrappings and tens of thousands of mummy wrappings were shipped to New England for use in paper making. The wrappings were infected with anthrax. Talk about the Curse of the Mummy! Sure anthrax lives on and on, lying dormant until it comes in contact with a warm body. That’s one reason why it is at the head of the list for germ warfare. It is an ideal reagent. Smallpox is right up there also. While we have suppressed smallpox with vaccinations, we no longer vaccinate for smallpox and thus all those folks who were never vaccinated are at risk should an outbreak occur. For us really old folks, we were vaccinated and it is supposed to last a lifetime. Due to being shipped overseas and to various places in the Far East during my stint in the Marine Corps I was vaccinated three times within a period of 6 months. This on top of the vaccination I received as a small child with the usual rest of the immunizations. I could probably work in a smallpox ward with no face mask or other protective gear — although I don’t believe in taking foolhardy chances. I’m immune to poison oak but I walk around the patch of poison oak, I don’t wade through it.

    While I understand that Mr. Davis can’t verify everything he allows to be posted to his website, otherwise he wouldn’t have time for going to the john, this is one of the strike-outs of this list. Well, keep in mind that Babe Ruth struck out more times at bat than he got a hit. I don’t hit a home run every time at bat. Heck, sometimes I don’t even know it’s my turn at bat.

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    • Timo July 25, 20:02

      Wow Left Coast Chuck! You may have set a record here for a reply! BTW, I do enjoy reading your posts, even the very long ones! Found this one very interesting and informative.

      LOL, your observation on all the camp fires of the Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons causing global warming is hilarious. (Crown-Magnons? how cute!) You keep writing and I will keep reading! Have a blessed day.

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    • C. Davis July 27, 14:09

      While I read most of the articles and edit them or write them myself (sometimes) … I do read all your comments though (Left Coast Chuck).

      I also post articles that I don’t or partially agree with because I try not to assume that my opinion is always the correct one, and because I also like to hear our reader’s thoughts.

      And I think different views can sometimes help. Not the case here, given the fact that the feedback was all negative, posting this article was a mistake.

      Thank you so much,
      Claude

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      • Timo July 27, 17:03

        Hi Claude, you have a great site here. I would not be too hard on yourself. As I have mentioned before, we all have the ability to either ignore or make actionable all the comments we review. You keep posting and we will keep reading. Have a blessed day!

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      • left coast chuck July 30, 16:22

        Hi Claude: Your site is one I read every time it shows up in my in-box. I find it very valuable. I also read all the posts. Please keep it going. I print out many of them for reference material in my library. I don’t rely on electronic media for long term storage. Some of Gutenberg’s original books are still in existence, close to 500 years. If any electronic media is still around from the 1950s I doubt if any of it can be read.

        You are correct t that different views are sometimes helpful. You don’t learn anything if everything you read or hear already agrees with what you know. Part the source of the division in our country today is people don’t want to actually listen to the other side. It’s the “My Mind Is Made Up, Don’t Bother Me With The Facts” syndrome.

        An article I would like to see is how we can avoid anthrax in a post ETOW life. It still is endemic in parts of the world and without antibiotics, it is quite fatal and if not fatal, very debilitating while infected. Because sheep are easily transportable and thrive in almost all climes, wool will once again become the fabric of choice for light weight, comfortable, yet durable clothing. Skins are fine, but usually are heavy as compared to wool. Even skins can be infected with anthrax, so it is going to once again be one of the afflictions of mankind. I posted a query to one reader who claimed to be a wool spinner how she treated the raw wool for anthrax but never got a reply. Perhaps she is unaware that anthrax used to be called “wool carders’ disease”.

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  6. left coast chuck July 25, 15:44

    D_ _n. I did it again. I hit send before re-reading my post. If there are any weird words in there, it is predictive and not me.

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  7. Val July 25, 16:41

    Quote: “The bacterial DNA contains genes which evolved naturally for resistance to certain antibiotics, including tetracycline, beta lactam, and glycopeptides.”

    I find this hard to believe since I do not think these things are natural but man made antibiotics. How can it get immunity if was in an inanimate state (frozen)? Sounds like they been fooling around with testing and let it escape to me.

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    • left coast chuck July 25, 20:45

      While I don’t have any scientific background to support or reject this opinion, it seems to me just common sense would support Val’s opinion. The bacterium has been frozen in ice for centuries. It is released and somehow, over the centuries while in a frozen state of suspended animation it has managed to develop resistance to artificially created antibiotics.

      Hey, listen, there is a bridge in San Francisco that is a real money maker. I happen to know it is for sale and have the inside track on the sale. For a very small percentage of the total potential take which is in the multi-millions, I can put you in touch with the right people and the bridge could be yours. Does that sound phony to you? Well, so does the proposition that these suspended animation germs have somehow developed resistance to substances they haven’t been exposed to.

      If my proposal on the bridge doesn’t sound preposterous to you, let me know on this website so I can get you started on the possible road to riches. I will also throw in a proven cure for these ancient microbes.

      This is what I have repeatedly emphasized in my comments. Think critically about the information that is being gushed forth on the internet. Does it makes sense? Does your life experience tell you differently? If you rushed to buy a pet rock when they were the rage, ignore this last paragraph. If you laughed out loud at the fools who were wasting money on a piece of common stone, you know what I mean about critical thinking.

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  8. Josie July 25, 18:04

    The only deadly viruses let loose will be by the evil illuminati cabal to decrease our population…

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  9. bobthemoron July 25, 20:02

    If the caps were, actually, melting this might by some stretch of the imagination. However, there is absolutely no proof that there is any melting of the ice caps. This article is a pile of garbage.

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  10. Wannabe July 25, 20:41

    Global warming is an argument some have used to pass laws to control their people. Regulations that stop businesses from growing or even existing. Coal industry almost dessimated in this country and guess what, there is no longer a company inside the USA border that refines lead. They were closed down because no one could afford the huge regulations imposed on them. That’s pathetic, lead is now 100% imported to meet our needs. This is in lines with agenda 21 which is also designed to control the masses . So the “scientists” will come up with a new fear monger idea about plagues spreading world wide because of global warming. Can’t have cows pass gas that releases too much carbon dioxide. So pass the regulations and give out flatulation fines. Give me a break!

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    • left coast chuck July 25, 21:05

      And the two countries that are exporting lead are China and Mexico, two close allies of the U.S., always interested in the best interests of the U.S.A. All the “experts” said that it wouldn’t make a difference in the price of lead and that most of the lead used in the country was from recycled batteries. Several problems with that proposition. One, no matter how much one recycles, the mother lode gradually declines. If you start out with 200,000 tons of lead and use it all up and recycle what you have used, you will not wind up with 200,000 tons simply because not 100% of the lead gets recycled. Another problem with that scenario is that lead is extremely heavy. A freighter full of dried strawberries has a lot more value than a freighter full of lead because the freighter full of strawberries can carry more volume than the freighter full of lead. Do you think it is cheaper to ship lead by railroad car from Louisiana than it is to ship it by freighter from Shanghai to San Francisco or LA and then by railroad car?

      I was an officer of a gun club and we explored mining the lead in the butts. It would have cost us not only all the lead mined, but more money than we could afford to pay to mine the lead. Now at some point when lead bullets are costing $100 each, it may be cost-effective to mine the lead, but in today’s market it is not. And, by the way, when bullets are $100 each that $40,000 Prius is going to cost close to a million dollars. Those flashlights that Harbor Freight gives out free with any purchase — they will cost $100 each too.

      I always got a good belly laugh at the cows passing gas theory of global warming. The buffalo herds that ranged through the western plains probably equaled the number of cattle raised in the U.S. today. They may even have been more numerous. Both buffalo and beef cattle are ruminants. If cows give off gas, how much gas do buffalo which are larger than cows give off? What was the green house effect of all these buffalo? The whole pseudo-science of global warming is such a joke. If it didn’t have such serious economic effects, I would laugh myself to death. I guess it’s a good thing it’s not that big a joke but a serious effort to take countries with a high standard of living down to the level of 3rd and 4th world countries. It is a misguided attempt. Taking away my wealth does not make you richer, it just makes both of us poorer because even assuming my wealth will pass to you, you lack the ability to make use of the wealth and will just squander it.

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      • Wannabe July 25, 23:44

        Agreed bro.

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      • Wannabe July 25, 23:49

        Oh, and to respond to the recycled battery point, try to buy a new battery without paying for a core fee. About twenty eight bucks if you don’t turn in old battery. A new tax to dig into the pockets of Americans. I used to be able to take old car batteries to scrap yard for about ten bucks each. Not any more. I would even love to extract the lead for melting down to reload bullets but with a 28 dollar core tax, it is not affordable anymore. Control the masses

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  11. Older prepper July 25, 20:55

    Well based on this information, why don’t we all commit suicide right now? Who can fight all of that stuff? lol
    It sounds like we can’t do anything about it, so why “know”? I don’t know if a caribou with anthrax will un-thaw. ☺

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  12. OldBuff53 July 25, 23:59

    This whole article is loaded with all kinds of BS!!! Number one is, THE ICE CAPS ARE NOT MELTING!!!!!! All evidence shows the the sea ice is increasing. This author has shown himself to be a leftist tree hugging nut job.
    Really disappointed that this kind of alarmist false science BS would appear on this website

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  13. Wannabe July 26, 01:34

    Under agenda 21 the world elite want to start the world population with 200 million of their like minded minions. How do you suppose they want to accomplish this?

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  14. Val July 26, 12:25

    Well Wannabe, they already have who they want, they are the Elite that are pushing this crap. They are in there creating our laws etc. I won’t name names. They could care less about the ones that are helping to push their agenda (the younger generation).

    The first thing they do is take hold of the kids and pump them full of BS. (young minds are easier to manipulate). Then they get rid of jobs so the older people struggle and offer them free stuff like Food stamps to help them out. Once they have them hooked on that they twist the knife a bit deeper and offer a new health care that is going to mandate who gets what treatments etc. Then they fear monger again with pig flu, west nile, and now anthrax to get people to take their tainted vaccines. Also, lets not forget our food is not actually food these days. It is a chemical mixture that tastes good due to manipulating molecules of salt, sugars and fats. No wonder there is so much type 2 diabetes, Heart problems, Altzheimers etc.

    What is scary is every day I see a new drug taken off the market (lawsuits commercials). New one to replace it is just as bad if you read the side effects.

    It is sad to see what has happened to the US.

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